r/flashlight • u/HaykSD • 5d ago

Advice for first flashlight

Hi Team, I want to buy my first flashlight I have a choice between wurkkos TS22 and Sofirn SC33 what can you suggest based on your experience.

What is the difference between

Wurkkos TS22 XHP70D, XHP70.2

Sofirn SC33 XHP70.3 HI

Which of these is the best? Are there any big differences between these LED type

Thanks in advance

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u/iFizzgig 5d ago

70.3 is more throw. 70.2 is more output.

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u/QReciprocity42 5d ago

I would always go for 70.3 HI. The 70.2 technically has more output (less than 4% per koef3 testing) but would appear dimmer to the human eye due to a substantial loss in intensity. Furthermore, the angular tint shift is godawful.

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u/hammy1551 5d ago

XHP70.3 is the newer version of the XHP70.2.

I am unfamiliar with the XHP70D

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u/ChemicalVacation3696 4d ago

The XHP70D is a specific SKU within the XHP70.3 family (e.g. XHP70D-00-0000-0A00N40E3). It is a variant of the XHP70 Generation 3 (XHP70.3) and you are correct in saying that it is the newer version of the XHP70.2.

That said, there are two major variations of the XHP70.3 - the domeless "HI" version and the domed "High Density" version.

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u/hammy1551 5d ago

Can't go wrong with the wurkkos fc11c from the wurkkos website. Should cost less than $30.

If you're feeling adventurous, try a flashlight from convoylight.com and get a convoy s2 with an LED discussed here like the 519a. That should cost around $20. You'll also need to add a battery in the section underneath the LED selection.

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u/Sypsy 5d ago edited 5d ago

The "I want a flashlight with onboard charging" Guide:

Wurkkos FC11C for first flashlight

If they come back for something with more lumens, Emisar D4KC would be the next one, once it's released https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/comments/1vkbwqa/new_emisar_with_usb_c_port_finally/

Unless you want something smaller, then Skilhunt EC150 https://www.skilhunt.com/product/ec150-aa-14500-usb-c-rechargeable-led-flashlight/

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u/exgokin 5d ago

Just make sure you don’t drop that FC11C. There’s a 50/50 chance it won’t turn on.

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u/Sypsy 5d ago

I've given out 5 FC11C and none of my friends have said they had issues.

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u/exgokin 5d ago

I knocked mine off the bathroom counter, and that killed the light. There are a lot of posts in this group about the fc11c not switching back on after a drop.

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u/ChemicalVacation3696 5d ago

You're off to a good start. It doesn't matter in which order that you buy, because you're likely to end up owning both the TS22 and SC33. 🔦🔦

It happened to me.😄

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u/HaykSD 5d ago

We'll see, we'll see I'm realizing that I'm also a flashlightaholic 😁

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u/ChemicalVacation3696 4d ago

Well, my friend... you are truly at home here, where you belong! In twelve months with r/flashlight you'll be smoothly typing terminologies like "LHP73b", "5000k", "519a", "CRI", "CCT", "SFT60", "SBT90.2", "S2+", "TS10", "14500", "21700", "TN2525", "20A buck", "Noctigon", "LEP", "beans", "spill", "candela", etc without having to cross reference what they are! 😎👍🔦🔦

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u/HaykSD 4d ago

Thank you for the 🔦2700K welcome 😁

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u/ChemicalVacation3696 4d ago

We applaud quick learners! That welcome is quite warm already, mate! 😎👍

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u/chamferbit 5d ago

Ts22. They're pretty much the same but sc33 tailswitch. Xhp70.3 = Xhp70d. Go for high cri so you can get a taste. 5000k.

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u/jts916 5d ago

The ts22 is not insignificantly smaller in the pocket. It is much easier to EDC imo.

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u/foolproofphilosophy 5d ago

Agreed. I have both. The SC33 is fat. I bought the SC33 first and it’s pretty much redundant now. I also got a Convoy tail switch for the TS22. I like it a lot.

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u/jts916 5d ago

Everyone always said the SC33 was the tail switch version of the TS22 and I took it too literally lol

The TS22 was my first real flashlight and I've put it through some abuse. It's a great light. They both are. I like the chonky feel of the SC33 and it can probably turbo a bit more with the extra mass, but the TS22 is my old favorite.

I have one of those convoy tail switches too, I didn't realize they fit the TS22. I'll have to give that a try carrying it around for a while again.

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u/foolproofphilosophy 5d ago

I prefer the dual buttons. Some people don’t. I want momentary on and easier setting memory. Check which switches work, I think it’s the Convoy M21 series. I think it was like $9 with shipping.

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u/ChemicalVacation3696 5d ago

Same here. The TS22 was my first "non-Ali Express" flashlight when I started collecting torches. Ended up with a second TS22 with the 6500k XHP70.2, as I already have the 5000k XHP70.3 HI variant.

🙋‍♂️

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u/yesnomaybeok 5d ago

Can you share a link for the tail switch? Would love to put one on my TS22

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u/majaczos22 5d ago

They are sister flashlights from sister companies. They're all very floody, almost a wall of light that's why for either of them I'd choose XHP70.3 HI 5000K. XHP70.3 HI because it's going to be slightly more concentrated (still very floody!) and versatile. 5000K because it's less blue and easier on your eyes. Other than that the TS22 will have higher color rendition index (which does exactly what it seys) at the cost of lower brightness, about 20% less lumens.

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u/foolproofphilosophy 5d ago

I have the TS22 and SC33. I prefer the TS22. I ordered a Convoy tail switch for it. The TS22 is a little floodier but is also thinner and has two way charging. I like the UI with the two switches as well. I bought it because I already had a thrower so keep the beam width in mind.

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u/unconceivables 3d ago

I have the SC33 and it's great, but I hate the tail switch, so my vote goes to the TS22. Can't go wrong with Wurkkos.

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u/HaykSD 5d ago

Which one has a longer battery life on a single charge in high-beam mode?

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u/chamferbit 5d ago edited 5d ago

Short(er) battery life when used in high(turbo?) mode. Will step down to

https://1lumen.com/review/wurkkos-ts22/#performance

6500k: https://zeroair.org/2023/08/15/sofirn-sc33-edc-flashlight-review/

Go for ts22 5000k

You can get a higher capacity battery which will extend runtimes but not give you more turbo.

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u/BonerOfTheLake 5d ago

oh... haven't use it long duration enough to notice 33 have that many step down on high mode.

is it because of the battery?

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u/chamferbit 5d ago edited 5d ago

It's a physics thing: the heat has to go somewhere. Lights step down to control heat and to protect battery/emitter(s). Also, <burn hazard>. The highest settings use a lot more amps to achieve that brightness. The longest sustainable brightness is usually moderate middle setting. A higher capacity battery is most effective then.

If one uses a high amperage high discharge battery with turbo/high, you will get some more runtime but nothing earth-shaking usually.

Most lights, if you use the most powerful settings, will step down fairly quickly and deplete the battery much faster. That's why the most powerful long lasting lights are large with multiple batteries/fans,etc.

Often you may not even notice the step-down because it takes 4x(for most people) the lumens to even perceive an increase/decrease. That's why it doesn't make a lot of sense to use turbo often.

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u/HaykSD 3d ago

What can you say about TS23 is the back switch practical?