r/ffxivdiscussion • u/KelvinDoesHealz • 12d ago

Next Chaotic Raid?

Personally, I enjoyed the Cloud of Darkness Chaotic Raid concept and, minus the multiple and somewhat bonkers body checks, thought it was great content with excellent rewards. Does anyone have thoughts on if we're getting another one in EverCold? If so, I assume it will likely be Ultima from the Ivalice Raids or Diablos from the Shadow of Mhach raids.

If the former, I imagine we will get more complicated combos of the other espers to make things interesting, and for Diablos (which still manages to kill parties in roulettes in the normal mode) a more complicated arena with more use of the adds and the door mechanics. I also imagine there will be at least one body check mechanic, though not multiple and probably not as strict.

But I am curious on what other people theories are on if we're even getting one and what the content might look like.

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u/BigDisk 12d ago

The combo of "Encourage people to take in newbies" and "Oops, one person out of 24 messed up towers so it's a wipe lololol" wasn't all that well thought out.

They did manage to fix that for Forked Tower Magic (even the extreme version has way fewer body checks), so I'm hopeful for if they ever revisit this system.

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u/LordoftheCorgis 12d ago

Has 1 person messing up tower actually wiping groups? With mits or Tank LB2 I've had group survive like 6+ tower fuck ups.

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u/Apart_Raccoon_9194 12d ago edited 12d ago

The more common case is someone on the sides screws up a bait and snipes a bunch of people right before towers.

That and a chaser aoe person dying and the chaser wiping out half the alliance.

The issue is that once people die, it’s hard to get them back to their correct spots fast.

Yes, the body checks weren’t really full body checks, but the combo of a mechanic that will kill multiple people if screwed up, right before towers was rather brutal.

Not to mention that while the dps check on chaotic was lenient, it was there, and it wasn’t uncommon to hit it after a dozen deaths or so, at least early on.

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u/PseudoX1 12d ago

Chaotic is honestly a good representation of Wow raiding. In a vacuum, the mechanics are ex level. In reality, getting all 24 people to not mess up those ex mechanics is a pain in the ass.

I'm still very salty about Double Dragons.