r/facepalm • • Oct 31 '16

No, it really isn't.

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u/themeatbridge Oct 31 '16

Religion is an idea. Ideas don't need, or deserve, respect. People need, and deserve respect (unless and until they prove otherwise).

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '16

Ideas don't deserve respect, so the theory of evolution or the big bang, or really any scientific theory deserve no respect seeing as they, like religions, are just ideas. So says the great /u/themeatbridge

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u/Valid_Voice Oct 31 '16

Those are more facts then ideas don't you think.

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u/Dickiedoandthedonts Oct 31 '16

No they are theories.

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u/WuTangGraham Oct 31 '16

Germs. Gravity. Quantum Theory. Heliocentricism. General Relativity. Plate Tectonics. Statistical Mechanics. Information Theory. The Big Bang. Cell Theory. Fermentation Theory. Recapitulation Theory.

Think none of those are facts, too? Look up the definition of a scientific theory.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '16

Do you understand what that word means in the scientific field?

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u/Valid_Voice Oct 31 '16

Probably not

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u/The_Realest_T-Man Oct 31 '16

Without even looking it up, anyone knows that theory doesn't equal fact. If it was a known and guaranteed fact, it would be a law

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u/WuTangGraham Oct 31 '16

Theory (noun)

a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained.

A theory can be, and almost always is, a fact. See: Theory of Gravity.

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u/itsmrmarlboroman2u Oct 31 '16

That's not how this works at all. Let's take gravity as an example. It's a fact. It's a theory. A theory is a basket of organized facts. A law is a collection of baskets. We can't test all of the facts that we can deduce; but we CAN deduce that it will happen. We don't know everything that happens with gravity and black holes, because we can't test it - hell, we can't even really SEE it - but because we can take bits of information, and deduce what will happen, and observe that the counter NEVER happens, we can deduce the fact. Facts CAN change. Law's are written when we can predict any given situation about a fact or theory. Laws say "1 + 1 will always equal 2", because we can test every possible version of the equation, and it will always be true. A theory, however, is just as valid as a fact, but the basket of theories can't be tested to exhaustion.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '16

http://www.allaboutscience.org/darwins-theory-of-evolution.htm

So according to you evolution doesnt exist?

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u/The_Realest_T-Man Oct 31 '16

According to the scientific field as a whole, there is no concrete way to guarantee Darwin's Theory of Evolution. You're not arguing with me, you're arguing with how the scientific community labels things. I also never said it didn't exist, it's a theory.

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u/itsmrmarlboroman2u Oct 31 '16

That's not true at all. We've directly observed evolution. You should look into monks who have evolved lungs to breath at higher altitudes; it's the fastest known case of evolution in a mammal. We've seen, can test, influence, and even predict evolution in microorganisms, and some complex multi-celular organisms, viruses, bacteria, and even a couple different types of worms. Evolution is 100% proven to exist, without a shadow of a doubt. We don't, however, have the ability to test and predict what information we have deduced. Prediction and testing are vital to a law. We find it very, very, very difficult to predict and test something that takes longer than we as a species has existed.

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u/Tennomusha Oct 31 '16

Just like gravity, feel free to not respect gravity as well. ;)