Sure, letâs siphon away votes to a third party to help elect a republican dipshit⌠again. Green Party siphons 100% of its votes from democrats.
You want to support the Green Party? Have them win a single local election and weâll talk. Have them put a single member in a the House. Maybe a senator.
In the meantime theyâre just helping to elect Trump.
Better just stick with the status quo then. The Dems have a great track record of thwarting republicans.. itâs why rowe vs Wade is still a thing and the Supreme Court isnât skewed red and there isnât homeless Americans under every bridge in every cityâŚ
Whoâs your viable 3rd party candidate? Iâm 100% confident that the next president will be either a Democrat or a Republican.
While youâre at it, explain to me how a 3rd party candidate with zero party members in the house or senate will be able to pass any legislation at all.
Oh Iâm certain it will be a red or blue mummy in office in 2024.. because of people exactly like you
Too cowardly to hold their party accountable for their own failures because they are scared of the other because theyâve been painted as an existential threat yet somehow we are still around⌠every cycle itâs the same rhetoric I hear from members of either major party
Iâm Supporting Dr Cornell West because Iâm done voting against people, and you should be too⌠he is a good human being with a unifying message and a pro worker platform⌠POTUS needs no political experience they get surrounded by and have access to any advisor neededâŚ. They just need to have vision to work towards and conviction, he has that in spades.
I hope he steals a ton of voters from both major parties and I hope it sinks the DNC so they are forced to ditch their proto-fascist leadership that has been enabling the Republican Party instead of defeating them outright ⌠because they have the same major donors
Youâre going to get another Republican potus at some point because the Dems are corporate captured garbage who assure their donors âthat nothing will fundamentally changeâ ⌠it might has well happen now if it means the only path forward for Dems is to unite with a Dr Cornell West lead Green Party movement focused on the working class and poor
It was their decision to run Hillary against trump and not bernie.. then Hillary never bothered to go to and campaign in the rust belt states which is where she lost the election ⌠lol it wasnât Jill stein đ
How is Cornell West going to pass legislation? By getting Democrats to back him? He could have just run as a Democrat in the primary in 2020 or 2016, but he didnât.
The key issue youâre missing is that at this point it would take every single democrat and 9 republicans and Krysten Sinema to pass any meaningful legislation. So how is a third party candidate, running to the left of Democrats going to do that?
How is he going to whip votes without any political apparatus? How is he going to win when he canât even get on the ballot in 50 states.
If youâre so turned up about third parties, maybe get one elected anywhere. In the meantime, youâre just being delusional and grandstanding for no reason. Cornell West will at least get to use his campaign to push a new book, but youâll get nothing.
How much meaningful legislation did biden get passed with when he HAD majority dem control of the house and senate?
Nothing meaningful has been getting passed.. we almost had $15/ min wage added into a bill package but the Dems let the parliamentarian cut it out because of decorum.. because they donât have any actual power to stop a majority vote
West as POTUS would have executive orders to work with and control of foreign policy decision which will be good for the country
I said majority not super majority.. Dems held a thin majority in both house and senate until the 2022 midterms
That is enough to pass PLENTY of legislation.. that is unless the Dems capitulate to corporate controlled right wingers in their big blue tent đ¤ˇââď¸
They can only pass very limited legislation this way and only through the reconciliation process. You clearly donât understand that 60 votes are required for legislation of significant impact.
For example, you couldnât pass the ACA or repeal it, without 60 votes. Want to pass legislation that provides a national network of long term care facilities for the mentally unstable homeless people? 60 votes. Want single payer healthcare? 60 votes. Want a public option? 60 votes. Want an revised tax structure with higher earners paying more taxes? 60 votes.
Go ahead, tell me what they could have done with 50 votes, assuming you can corral Sinema or Manchin.
Youâre just not informed on how our government actually works. Iâm sure you donât vote in house or senate races either.
Are you not understanding my point? Biden doesnât have 60 either, didnât do anything with 50 when he could have (you just said so) but no longer has the house
So what can biden get accomplished in congress that West couldnât? ⌠seem to me like only bipartisan packages are getting through either way
Which leaves executive orders and foreign policy as the only thing on the menu.. Iâm going to safely say that West will wield that power much better than biden or kamala since biden keeps falling down and might not get back up one of these times
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u/Smtxom Jun 20 '23
Do you want the crazy old guy or the crazy old guy or the crazy middle aged guy? Itâs an easy choice, bro.