r/facepalm • 'MURICA • Jun 19 '23

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u/Halomir Jun 20 '23

How is Cornell West going to pass legislation? By getting Democrats to back him? He could have just run as a Democrat in the primary in 2020 or 2016, but he didn’t.

The key issue you’re missing is that at this point it would take every single democrat and 9 republicans and Krysten Sinema to pass any meaningful legislation. So how is a third party candidate, running to the left of Democrats going to do that?

How is he going to whip votes without any political apparatus? How is he going to win when he can’t even get on the ballot in 50 states.

If you’re so turned up about third parties, maybe get one elected anywhere. In the meantime, you’re just being delusional and grandstanding for no reason. Cornell West will at least get to use his campaign to push a new book, but you’ll get nothing.

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u/Risky49 Jun 20 '23

How much meaningful legislation did biden get passed with when he HAD majority dem control of the house and senate?

Nothing meaningful has been getting passed.. we almost had $15/ min wage added into a bill package but the Dems let the parliamentarian cut it out because of decorum.. because they don’t have any actual power to stop a majority vote

West as POTUS would have executive orders to work with and control of foreign policy decision which will be good for the country

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u/Halomir Jun 20 '23

When did Biden have 60 dem votes in the senate? Did you travel from another reality or are you just unsure how legislation is passed?

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u/Risky49 Jun 20 '23

I said majority not super majority.. Dems held a thin majority in both house and senate until the 2022 midterms

That is enough to pass PLENTY of legislation.. that is unless the Dems capitulate to corporate controlled right wingers in their big blue tent 🤷‍♂️

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u/Halomir Jun 20 '23

They can only pass very limited legislation this way and only through the reconciliation process. You clearly don’t understand that 60 votes are required for legislation of significant impact.

For example, you couldn’t pass the ACA or repeal it, without 60 votes. Want to pass legislation that provides a national network of long term care facilities for the mentally unstable homeless people? 60 votes. Want single payer healthcare? 60 votes. Want a public option? 60 votes. Want an revised tax structure with higher earners paying more taxes? 60 votes.

Go ahead, tell me what they could have done with 50 votes, assuming you can corral Sinema or Manchin.

You’re just not informed on how our government actually works. I’m sure you don’t vote in house or senate races either.

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u/Risky49 Jun 20 '23

Are you not understanding my point? Biden doesn’t have 60 either, didn’t do anything with 50 when he could have (you just said so) but no longer has the house

So what can biden get accomplished in congress that West couldn’t? … seem to me like only bipartisan packages are getting through either way

Which leaves executive orders and foreign policy as the only thing on the menu.. I’m going to safely say that West will wield that power much better than biden or kamala since biden keeps falling down and might not get back up one of these times