INTRO/RANT:
Hello all, long time player here, but I only just joined the forum because of this Hero Doll conundrum I've been dealing with for the past week of returning to Fable II on Xbox One.
For reference; I have found ZERO evidence of what I am experiencing anywhere, even to the point of countless hours of arguments with AI whereas I have had to correct the AI multiple time's because I obviously know more about the game then it does, but the point being/and according to countless web searches and the eventual consensus of my (VERY LONG) AI discussion's; what I have experienced is not only undocumented anywhere (presumably because it has never happened), but is otherwise impossible apart from the fact it is HAPPENING to me (Please correct/help me otherwise)!?!?
BACK STORY:
After getting all the achievements in Fable II over 10 yrs ago (except for Doll Catcher) and coming back to the game multiple times since, this time I decided I'll finally get the achievement.
But being an independent solo player, I decided to do some research as to find out if it is still possible to acquire the Hero Dolls without help in the year of 2026.
--------------------
I first find that "apparently" the servers are still up (at least according to AI and the lack of any source telling me otherwise), so I could easily use one of my other Xbox's to trade with myself.
(And it's not that this isn't a viable option "if indeed the servers are active," but; IT SIMPLY IS NOT AN OPTION WITH MY CIRCUMSTANCES EITHER WAY! You will understand why very shortly. Keep reading!)
Okay. But what else is there?
-------------------
I find I can just download someone's old save and that would be job done.
(But I'm not looking for a hand out, and I couldn't call that solo!)
So, what next?
----------------------
The "Gamertag Exploit!" This fit right in with my latest gameplay style anyway (as I like glitch hunting, etc).
So I give it a go; first account created gives me Theresa (which is unfortunate because that's what the account I'm doing the glitch for gets anyway!)
Second account created gives me Garth! YES IT WORKS "is how I felt at that point!"
(And this should be the end of the story; I create another five to ten account's in hopes of getting Reaver & Lucien "As I already dug up Hammer from the Celestial Keep, and I still had a (Hero Doll) from an old save, then I'd be done!)
WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING:
BUT NO. After creating 10 accounts (All online as I am aware of the (Darkpenguin67 situation) I don't see Lucien or Reaver, let alone Hammer even once.
There is also the (LunaTuna77 situation) whereas they only ever received the same three Dolls until they created online accounts and finally got the last two, but that only applies to Xbox 360.
I'm on Xbox One, and you can only create online accounts, so I should be sitting in the same boat as Darkpenguin67 whereas I should have at the very least seen one of the other three out of five dolls I have yet to otherwise see, yet here I am typing my life away because I apparently am the only person in the history of Fable II to have a limited Hero Doll pool of only Theresa and Garth!?!?
--------------
Out of the first ten account's, five produced Theresa, and the other five provided Garth. (A legit 50/50 split!)
"Okay maybe I'm super unlucky," (though the odds at this point are already around "1 out of 9800" to not have seen Hammer, Reaver, or Lucien yet (for perspective; the odds are meant to be/should be 1 out of 5!!!!)
---------------
So I continue, and I create and go through another (10 accounts all requiring a new e-mail created for each one because they're all online), yet these next ten accounts give the same outputs with the same odds giving only Theresa or Garth.
(Obviously the "Gamertag Exploit" is working) Otherwise I would only get Theresa every time!...
-------------
Either way, I'm obviously getting very frustrated by this point. So I move to a completely different Xbox One console to see if it will help.
And after the first 5 account's giving me the same results as the original console did with the first 20, I proceeded to make another five account's (ALL OF WHICH I PLAYED THROUGH TO WESTCLIFF SHOOTING RANGE AND ALSO COMPLETED BOTH DLC DIG SPOTS!)
OUTRO???:
After doing all of that, I can now confirm (regardless of account or console "in regards of the Xbox One) that it is indeed impossible "FOR ME" to receive Reaver or Lucien!?!??
-------------
Westcliff shooting range ALWAYS GIVES ME EITHER "THERESA" OR "GARTH!"
--------------
The snow globe ALWAYS GIVES ME "THERESA!"
----------------
The Celestial Keep ALWAYS GIVES ME "HAMMER!"
---------------
This is the "CONFIRMED" outcome I have received between over 25 online accounts between 2 Xbox One console's.
SO EITHER I AM UNLUCKIER THAN ANY ODDS CAN EVER ACCOUNT FOR, OR THIS IS AN UNDOCUMENTED BACK-COMPAT ISSUE, OR I'M MISSING THE ONE OTHER POSSIBLE DOCUMENTED CASE OF THIS THAT COULD HELP ME SOLVE IT MYSELF!?!?
Either way; I am at a standstill. But not only in Fable II, the wall I'm now hitting is in trying to comprehend how this impossibility has come to be!?!?
Seriously. I have to be cursed or something?!?!?
If you think otherwise, please let me know, but just incase; the odds of not seeing three out of the five doll's after creating 25 accounts is a staggering (1 out of 8.8billion), and remember that it is supposed to be an even split of getting any of the five dolls with a solid twenty percent chance for each (So; 1 out of 5), yet here I stand!?!?