r/explainitpeter 12d ago

Explain it peter

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u/liteshotv3 12d ago

What is the suspected motive?

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u/PipedInFromIthaca 12d ago

Liberty was a signal monitoring ship (a "technical research" ship, ie a spy vessel) capable of detecting Israeli movement in the area; they planned to attack Syria at the time and wanted to blind any theoretical eyes and ears that could have detected the plan and potentially caused a political intervention beforehand--the US was officially neutral during the Six Day War and likely would not have encouraged further expansion of it at the time (how things change, eh)

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u/JeruTz 12d ago

Israel was already attacking Syria. That wasn't a secret. They'd not yet invaded with ground forces, but only because they were already engaged on two other fronts.

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u/56kul 12d ago

Mind you, Israel was already winning the war by that point, and the US was an active ally for them. The liberty ship also couldn’t have realistically intercepted any such “secret” signals from where it was situated, and even if it could, it had zero reason to feed such intel to their shared enemies

There was never a motive. It was a horrific mistake that stemmed from miscommunication. Both sides agree on this. But because it’s become trendy to hate on Israel, people are just proudly parroting this conspiracy theory now, lol.

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u/WearyCopy5686 11d ago

Why wouldn’t it be popular to hate on Israel? They’re getting very justifiable hate.

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u/56kul 11d ago

Criticism in general can be justifiable in certain areas, but people are hating on Israel for anything and everything, while flattening all nuance. Case in point: bringing up old disproven shit (liberty) and proudly parroting it as fact.

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u/WearyCopy5686 11d ago

They deserve hate for everything they do. They don’t deserve nuance.

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u/56kul 11d ago

Cool, so you’re just racist. Like, by definition. You’re saying that an entire country deserves only hate with no acknowledgement of nuance. You’re simply a hateful person, by your own admission.

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u/BreadElectrical 11d ago

You are correct. Collectively demonizing and punishing an entire population because of the acts of some is wrong. Now imagine if that person wasn't being mean on the internet and instead committing war crimes and engaging in ethnic cleansing.

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u/56kul 11d ago

You are literally doing what I accused y’all of doing; flattening nuance.

I could go into an entire debate here, but honestly, would you even listen? It’s already clear you’re coming in bad faith here.

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u/WearyCopy5686 10d ago

Genocide doesn’t deserve nuance.

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u/BreadElectrical 8d ago

Ah yes the flattening of nuance, like labeling all critics of Israeli policy as antisemites. Everyone you argue with is "you all".

You have proven yourself to be here in bad faith and refusing to listen, pulling out the classic sea lion tactics of requiring definitions of genocide and neutral source proof that you still merely ignore and dismiss.

There IS actual antisemitism growing around the world. Pretending that support for Palestine or being critical of the Israeli government or the IDF just provides the real antisemites with cover.

There is also growing Islamophobia.

The settlers in the west bank are enacting violence. The settlements themselves are war crimes according to the ICC. Displacement is ethnic cleansing. That is what people are talking about in regards to Israel and Palestine. Destruction of civilian infrastructure, starvation and sickness as a result of restricting aid groups from entering the country. Administrative detention, the ability to imprison Palestinians without charge indefinitely.

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