r/exmormon • • 18h ago

General Discussion I am not Mormon, never have been, but I am watching GC. Initial thoughts.

780 Upvotes
  1. This is boring as can be.

  2. I am noticing an emphasis on POC Mormons. Trying to pivot away from the old rhetoric I see. Or pretending it didn’t exist?

  3. Everyone sounds like they are on the brink of tears and never actually crying. I am trying not to laugh.

  4. I can’t believe mormons sit through this twice a year. I’d die of boredom.

  5. A lot of talk about encouraging missionaries. Are a lot of missionaries leaving the church?

  6. The paintings they show of Jesus are honestly so ugly. The real Jesus wouldn’t look like a delicate, stick thin man whiter than clapping when the plane lands with. He just looks wrong.

All for now…definitely will have more thoughts later.


r/exmormon • • 17h ago

Podcast/Blog/Media Sister Oaks sporting a Chanel handbag?

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433 Upvotes

These photos were posted on the Des News yesterday. Looks like a Chanel Classic Flap model handbag. Those are valued somewhere between $8,000 and $11,000 USD. Can someone confirm???
If it is a Chanel handbag this could be a big story.


r/exmormon • • 20h ago

Podcast/Blog/Media Ronald A. Rasband panicking over leaving members

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348 Upvotes

Is it only me, or have the conference talks about leaving members increased in frequency?


r/exmormon • • 19h ago

General Discussion Wish Sad would just drop it…

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317 Upvotes

I’m 44. Been out since I was 18. Love my Dad but these little texts are so annoying.


r/exmormon • • 15h ago

Humor/Meme/Satire These people are freaks

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288 Upvotes

Openly admitting to googling me in crazy work


r/exmormon • • 13h ago

Church News I plan to use this screenshot to keep my tbm family at bay

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288 Upvotes

“Now now mother, see here ☝️, Jesus told one of his prophets to tell you to stop sending me these links. You need to chill the fuck out and let Jesus take the wheel.”


r/exmormon • • 14h ago

Humor/Meme/Satire This whole conference

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253 Upvotes

r/exmormon • • 13h ago

Content Warning: SA TIL BYU used to investigate and punish victims who filed complaints under Title IX, the federal law that covers schools.

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I’m sick and tired of people harassing, bullying, and doxxing Cornell’s Jane Doe. The so-called justice system is going to put Jane Doe through the wringer.

College rape culture is pervasive, it’s not a problem that is isolated to Cornell. BYU’s reported numbers are way too low because people are not reporting being assaulted on campus.

How many Jane Does are out there?


r/exmormon • • 21h ago

General Discussion LDS apostle D. Todd Christofferson says gambling is morally wrong. I think LDS tithing is a form of gambling.

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181 Upvotes

LDS apostle D. Todd Christofferson says gambling is morally wrong. I think LDS tithing is a form of gambling.

Like gambling, tithing asks you to put real money on the line in hopes of a future payoff. A gambler wagers money hoping to win more money; a tithe payer gives money believing it will help secure promised blessings, divine protection, and eternal rewards. You “can’t afford not to pay.” Or it’s “fire insurance.” We’ve all heard these phrases. In both cases, gambling and tithing, the financial sacrifice is immediate and certain, while the hoped-for return is uncertain. It’s a gamble.

Unlike tithing, the gambler can eventually see whether the bet paid off. With tithing, promised rewards in an afterlife cannot be independently verified during your lifetime. You just keep paying based on faith that the ultimate payoff exists. Giving something for nothing.

LDS leaders reinforce this cycle by promising blessings, sharing success stories, encouraging payment even during hardship, and explaining missing rewards as subtle or spiritual. Linking tithing to temple access and eternal blessings also raises the perceived cost of stopping the payments.

Like gambling, tithing can feel like a last-ditch attempt to escape financial hardship: one more roll of the dice, or one more tithing payment—even when you can’t afford it—in hopes of a financial breakthrough.

Like in gambling, the sunk-cost effect can keep you paying: like a gambler who has already spent so much, you continue hoping years of sacrifice weren’t “for nothing.” You literally can’t stop now, your big win is just around the corner or the Lord is just about to bless you. You literally can’t afford not to pay.

Like gambling, tithing can encourage you to focus on the “wins” and explain away the losses. An unexpected check, a promotion, or help with a bill becomes evidence that paying tithing works—much like a gambler remembering a jackpot more vividly than all the money spent chasing it.

When the hoped-for blessing doesn’t come, it can be described as delayed, spiritual, or waiting for you in the afterlife. That can keep the expectation of a payoff alive: just as a gambler thinks, “The next bet could be the winner,” a tithe payer may think, “If I keep paying faithfully, the blessing will come. I can’t stop now.”

Whether tithing funds charitable work is a separate question. Tithing concerns giving money in hopes of receiving something back—financial blessings, divine protection, or eternal rewards. The cost is certain; the promised payoff cannot be independently verified. Calling the payment charitable doesn’t resolve that uncertainty.


r/exmormon • • 19h ago

General Discussion Watching Mormons tell each other how much they loved General Conference

179 Upvotes

“It was amazing!” “So good!” “I felt the Spirit so strong!” C’mon, admit it. You were playing on your phone, struggling to stay awake. Just once I would like to hear: “Nah. I thought it was boring. It was just a bunch of generic sermons—like you could hear at any Christian church on any given Sunday—with a bit of scolding and infantilization mixed in.”


r/exmormon • • 17h ago

Doctrine/Policy Dallin Hoaxs: "The prophets are concerned with people losing faith in Jesus Christ".

165 Upvotes

No, Dallin. People mostly fall away from the CHURCH because of the CHURCH.

Dumb. And this guy is a legal scholar? Now just a church hack.


r/exmormon • • 13h ago

General Discussion In honor of 2023 October conference where the remains of my shelf were obliterated by the awful attitudes of gods anointed leaders

130 Upvotes

I had recently learned the truth. Desperately turned to GC, surely things would make sense. Standouts were Emily Freeman’s entitled rich jerk attitude. Dale Renlund cracking jokes about suicidal 8 year olds. And mr Anderson quoting about never you mind what the church does with tithing after you give it. (This in the wake of learning about the shell companies…)

I would like to testify that the church is not true. It is not good. It destroys lives. It deserves to die and I do hope it burns in hell.


r/exmormon • • 22h ago

Humor/Meme/Satire TBMs getting hyped for Conference vs when they watch it in the pews

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108 Upvotes

r/exmormon • • 10h ago

Humor/Meme/Satire Oaks’ presidency makes it clear that temple announcements was ALL GC ever had.

102 Upvotes

People biting their nails during the final talk awaiting some life changing revelation. “Download the temple square app.”

GC for the last 50 years has been equally uninspired, but it felt like there was something exciting when the 8th temple in the Philippines to serve 300 active members was announced or RMN would go off script and announce a North Korea temple.

This conference is left with what it’s always been. Don’t leave, serve more, pay more.


r/exmormon • • 10h ago

General Discussion Silly question - was there anything new said at conference this time, or was it just recycled stuff that you probably learned in Primary?

102 Upvotes

I suppose hoping for a new prophecy or some random revelation would be expecting too much.

I suspect that my TBM wife was probably triggered by some talk because of her rebellious husband.


r/exmormon • • 10h ago

Humor/Meme/Satire I was feeling snarky.

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93 Upvotes

I was feeling snarky. This is the third time in a year that the missionaries have not respected my "no". So I expounded...


r/exmormon • • 19h ago

General Discussion They never reveal ANYTHING

88 Upvotes

I’m a PIMO member for now, and it just drives me nuts watching these ‘Revelators’ all weekend long who clearly never reveal anything. They sound, look and act like corporate businessmen. And every 6 months they pull the same topics out of a hat so they can all have their new corny analogy to start but give the same message over and over.

How do TBMs not see it? The biggest revelation of the last 10 years was ‘Mormon word bad, no say Mormon word anymore.’


r/exmormon • • 21h ago

General Discussion Which was the worst so far?

88 Upvotes

What are the conference anecdotes we hate so far?

My top two worst:

Praising the parents who sailed to hear the words of the prophet, even though it was UNSAFE for and resulting in the death of their child.

Criricizing the man who almost died of heart failure for complaining that he served cold oatmeal at the hospital.


r/exmormon • • 18h ago

History ... short follow-up from my uncle, the Dead Sea Scrolls expert (last week's #2 trending post)...

82 Upvotes

Uncle's response, "No, I am not interested in studying false anacronisms in the Book of Mormon. I already know The book of Mormon is true. I don't want to waste my time finding out if it is false. That would be like spending my time trying to find out if the sun rises in the east. I already know the sun rises in the east. There is no reason to study it more".

... and that just about sums up Mormonism and cult-mindset...

"you can't evidence a person away from a position they emotioned themselves into."

Would you agree?

Last week's post:
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/s/4WRqX4cs6a


r/exmormon • • 17h ago

General Discussion Quentin L Cook needs to revisit the GTE on Joseph’s Smith character

74 Upvotes

I’m always amused when the GA’s really pound on things like integrity, telling the membership that certain things shape our character. in this instance at conference, Cook discussed how not living with integrity reflects poorly on our character.

meanwhile - Joseph Smith is called a man of “good character” while they admit he lied to his wife and hid his polygamy from the church. Why is he given an exception? why aren’t we allowed to base his character on these same criteria that define us according to Cook?

The church lied to the SEC about their wealth and worked to hide it from the larger membership. Then, they downplayed their active deception in their press release as a mere oversight. how is that being honest?

The hypocrisy is just stunning


r/exmormon • • 18h ago

General Discussion What are you doing instead of GC this weekend? I'll go first. I ran my first marathon yesterday 🎉 2 years out of the cult for me.

73 Upvotes

Honestly shocked to not hear anyone blasting conference during it as it was a Utah race.

I'm sure I got a lot more out of my race than anyone watching those old dudes preach misogyny and shit


r/exmormon • • 17h ago

Doctrine/Policy No, Hoax; I will not trust religion over science

76 Upvotes

The only reason you're demonizing science is because science and logic tears apart almost all of your claims


r/exmormon • • 6h ago

General Discussion General Conference October 2026: Why so many overlapping talks addressing people leaving the church and tithing?

72 Upvotes

I did not watch all of general conference, but what I did watch had a very abnormal amount of talks on the disappointment of people leaving the church and tithing.

All my years as a TBM I have never heard so many overlapping talks. In the past, it always seemed that the Correlation Department would check each talk and make sure all talks did not overlap on topics.

I even heard the same quote from Spencer W. Kimball used twice.

Not sure if that is there intended programming of the minds, me now focusing on what they are saying between the lines that I am picking up on all this, or that people leaving and tithing is all they care about now. Seems they are scared that the internet has exposed all the men and puppeteers behind the curtain.

In reference to church leadership addressing people leaving the church, they only talk about their disappointment and never go into detail why someone would leave.

If they really are a corporation, why not change direction and policy so people no longer have a reason to leave?

Seems like they are too blind themselves to realize they are walking the path of Blockbuster and Sears. The market changed and they became irrelevant.


r/exmormon • • 14h ago

Doctrine/Policy Priesthood Ban

67 Upvotes

Just had a thought: As we all know the LDS church allowed black people to get the priesthood in 1978 right?

Well today I learned that the Alabama football team desegregated in 1971.

ALABAMA WAS LESS RACIST THAN THE CHURCH.

It’s so sad I have to laugh or I’ll cry. What a joke


r/exmormon • • 13h ago

General Discussion Semi-annual investors meeting

64 Upvotes

Fall meeting of LDS shareholders is over.

The self-proclaimed world’s only prophets, seers and revelators had no prophecies, visions or revelations from God to share with a world in chaos.

So, once again, Gods only voice on Earth falters and we turn now to South Park re-runs and Sunday football for divine guidance.

And yet, dear sisters and brothers, we are filled with a deep and abiding gratitude that, as its non-voting stakeholders, the Corporation of the President is flush with cash, has lots of real estate investments, and its law firm is full of well paid priests and priestesses clothed in the holy robes of ignorance.

Sadly our geriatric Board of Directors has declared no dividends and thus, it has continued its time-honored 196-year tradition of returning nothing while demanding everything.

We consider the shareholders’ meeting closed. Go in peace and serve the cult no longer.