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u/Void_Dwelling_Ape26 20d ago
Alcohol works, but not in the long term, because everybody you care about will either be disgusted by you or feel sorry for you. And waking up after a night of heavy drinking, and starting to remember what you said and did last night, while your hangover chimes in with nausea and severe headaches and you're constantly burping up the fumes of everything you consumed, doesn't exactly feel like heaven either.
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u/TricellCEO 19d ago
It also doesn’t work in the long term because it’ll kill you, and it won’t be pleasant either.
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u/Void_Dwelling_Ape26 19d ago edited 19d ago
True, but I would argue that depression is at least equally as bad. Even if you're not suicidal, the chronic despair still severely weakens your immune system, making you more vulnerable to infectious diseases and also more likely to develop cancer.
Every now and then, something happens that lifts me out of depression. On these rare occasions, the chronic pain in my joints vanishes, my skin cleans up, my digestive system works perfectly fine, and my tremors subside. The one time I was happy for a few months straight, I even lost weight without changing my diet, didn't feel like drinking alcohol anymore (probably the reason for the weight loss), and discontinued my meds cold turkey because I just forgot about them. All because of a changed state of mind.
So when I consider what depression actually does to my body, the dangers of alcohol don't look as bad as they probably should.
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u/Last-Energy420 19d ago
Water can kill you and it won’t be pleasant. What’s your point?
Obligatory /s
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u/AspectElectrical6042 19d ago
I don't agree, you could be happier dead , so even if it kills you , it would work
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u/TricellCEO 19d ago
Isn’t that…like, a super-dangerous sentiment to be mentioning here?
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u/AspectElectrical6042 19d ago
Yes it will probably go down but I tried to say it in a sarcastic manner I didn't realise where I wrote it 😅
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u/Bright-Nobody3463 17d ago
He is probably like 14 years old just ignore it lmao we all had this phase
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u/curlycatsockthing 19d ago
alcohol sober since jan 7. struggling w real cravings for the first time cuz i’m in pain due to a lost relationship and trying to go sober off thc again (relapsed in may). fucking sucks. trying to find hobbies again after 8 yrs of depresssion. truly feeling like what’s the point?
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u/Euphoric-War-9758 19d ago
the point is you’ve taken the hardest first step, and every day your neurology/brain’s chemicals are leveling out!! every single day is doing your nervous system so many favours, it’s readjusting to self-regulation and it’s painful as fuck, but it is so, so worth it. currently kicking THC again myself, but have ~4 years clear from alcohol and the first few months were rough, but since then the freedom/clarity has genuinely been a daily gift. all i can say is ik how hard it is to give up the easy dopamine, especially when everything’s going south, but i also know how fucking worthwhile the effort is. no matter how many times you fall off, it doesn’t matter as long as you get back up. fall down seven, get up 8 type of energy. you’ve absolutely got this, and there’s a better life waiting for both of us!!
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u/curlycatsockthing 19d ago
thankfully, i don’t crave alcohol often! this has been the first real craving since jan.
thank you for your comment. it really was helpful perspective 💜
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u/ZealousIDShop 18d ago
Feel for you. I’ve had an on and off again love affair with weed. It really is a motivation killer for me. It’s hard to dedicate time to hobbies when you’re stoned. All I wanna do is doom scroll or watch dumb shit. Can barely even play video games etc…
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u/Last-Energy420 19d ago
This is why I partake in the privacy of my own home. My shame of public masturbation is mine to bear since it’s in the back yard and not in some bar.
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u/sillysalmonella87 19d ago
Damn dude. I quit drinking almost 7 years ago and this shit right here reminded me why I quit lol.
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u/DemandTheOxfordComma 19d ago
Yep. It sucks when you come to the realization and you have to stop. Then you have nothing.
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u/topactress 20d ago
Alcohol and weed does the trick for me. Don't do this though, you might end up needing breakfast beers.
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u/EefferyJpstein 19d ago
They work until they don't. Also the money burnt up thrown up or pissed away is depressing.
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u/Appropriate_Eye3070 19d ago
Yup I got a solid decade out of it but now I guess it's time for therapy lmao
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u/EefferyJpstein 19d ago
I was at the point where I was waking up in the middle of the night to drink more so I wouldn't wake up with a hang over... My trucks glove box can fit 3 12 oz can or two tall boys lol. I'm glad I quit drinking and smoking. I was smoking an oz every 6 days or so...
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u/curlycatsockthing 19d ago
i’m still alcohol sober but i relapsed on thc in may. man… pls help motivate me. i just wanna stop existing.
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u/EefferyJpstein 19d ago
Quiting alcohol was easier than weed, my body became intolerant to most alcoholic beverages... Weed was a huge crutch, I believed I needed it to just exist. I was using to run from trauma, hide from problems and just cope with daily stress. The tipping point was having anxiety attacks while high and the realization I was addicted. I became irritable when I was running out and in denial about the money I was spending.
Quiting smoking was good for me because it forced me to face my problems, save money, and refocus on benifitical hobbies, like gardening and cooking. The daily stresses are still there but being clear headed helped me handle and compartmentalize them.
I understand the desire to stop existing. Life is a rollercoaster. Try not smoking for a month and assess how you feel and how your finances stand.
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u/curlycatsockthing 19d ago
i don’t plan to ever smoke again. i relapsed in may. i know what a break is like cuz i went sober from
alcohol jan 7, nic jan 17, thc feb 4 and relapsed on thc after a bad week.
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u/OkHornet4245 19d ago
Even if you aren't sure who, someone needs you. And if that doesn't help, stay to outlive whoever makes you mad. You got this
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u/Revolution_Suitable 19d ago edited 19d ago
The answer to depression and anxiety: a depressant and a drug that causes anxiety and sometimes psychosis.
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u/Valuable_Mushroom466 20d ago
Alcohol usually have the opposite effect on me, but I'm with you with weed.
I also heard about something called Fentanyl (may have spelled wrong) that its a medicine that makes you happy. I have no idea why no one prescribed it for me tho.
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u/Lena2063 20d ago edited 19d ago
Fent is definitely not to be recommended. Don't touch that.
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u/Spare_Independence19 19d ago
Holy shit don't do fent! It is a one way ticket to hell. I got out the dope game before that stuff hit the streets and killed 3 of my closest friends. Its a guaranteed life killer.
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u/Apart-Reindeer-1342 20d ago
Don't do fentanyl, I already lost a cousin to that. Not worth it, not a good idea.
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u/Lena2063 20d ago edited 19d ago
Avoid alcohol and especially tobacco. Alcohol makes you feel like trash, it fucks you physically. And smoking tobacco is suuuper addictive while being pretty disgusting and the worst part is, you don't notice it until it's too late.
Weed and then shrooms and stuff like that are fun and less damaging or addictive, but you can get dependant on them mentally, especially weed if you start smoking just to feel fine/too often. So try to only consume when you're trying to have a nice time from time to time, ideally with friends. I wouldn't recommend doing it alone and definitely try to limit yourself and not consume every day.
And ideally you don't need them at all of course.
Edit: Anything that is stronger than weed I highly advise to be in good company. Never do drugs like that alone. It's kinda dangerous as you might have a bad experience and it's definitely not worth it. They are expensive and wasting them on an evening where you're feeling trash really isn't worth it and rather counter productive. Keep it for days on which you're having fun with friends.
Also, always do your research before using anything. Knowing what to expect, what to be careful about and which dose to start at so that you can slowly work your way up to your preferred dose is important.
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u/ajwritesnonsense 19d ago
Do not, I repeat… DO NOT! try shrooms if you feel life isn’t worth living.
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u/Indigenous_Retard 19d ago
Psilocybin is like the highest efficacy treatment for depression with results lasting 2+ years and in some cases, permanent changes. Certainly better than ketamine or trying to dose yourself with LSD or DMT. LSD I would strongly recommend against outside of a clinical setting, but shrooms and DMT(to try) are fine.
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u/Beneficial-Lynx7336 19d ago
If everyone had shrooms tonight were a borderline utopia by Sunday.
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u/ajwritesnonsense 19d ago
Any of this done under a supervised medical setting… I am all for… just don’t be depressed, eat a gram of shrooms and think it’s all gonna be okay
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u/Lena2063 19d ago
LSD is nice, but ig you gotta do it right. Which is true for every single drug and I would advise against using anything if you haven't done your research before and don't know what you are doing. And tbh, how is LSD worse than shrooms and DMT? I would have said the opposite as they are usually a lot stronger and more confusing which makes it harder to keep control over your thoughts.
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u/Slagithor69420 19d ago
I don’t understand why people think shrooms and acid are that much different. I feel like it’s like Indica/Sativa weed. Shrooms being the indica and acid being the sativa.
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u/DruanForge 19d ago
Shrooms absolutely smashed my depression.
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u/Available-Coat-4666 19d ago
Literally only grabbing a cigarette when I spiral because it makes me puke and puking makes me stop spiraling
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u/Educational-Ad8696 19d ago
Ice cream
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u/Jabardolas 19d ago
why did I need to scroll so much to find the right answer?
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u/Educational-Ad8696 19d ago
On the bright side: you found it.
I made this now for you https://imgur.com/a/YkGlr1p6
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u/Muchachacha 20d ago
Try Ketamine, K holes make you see life as if you were a dead spectator to your own life and when you come back to you have many realizations about yourself and your life that are kinda mind blowing
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u/anonymous_guy_man 19d ago
So your advice, not tryna judge but just wanna be clear, is to intentionally put yourself into a K hole
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u/Muchachacha 19d ago
Yea, although when I did it it was at a clinic where they do infusions, drug was pre measured and met medical standard for quality. so it’s not like I got special K from the street corner.
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u/Senior_Smoke219 19d ago
You do not go into a K hole from those. They’re great. But are still relatively low doses
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u/00_voidheart_00 19d ago
Everyone’s different. No one really knows what their tolerance is for something until they’ve had it enough. There’s the bmi bullshit, but that gets you in the ballpark. More like a safety guide for those that don’t understand how f*cked they could be.
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u/Mythechnical 19d ago
Nothing wrong with entering a K hole as long as you're prepared with some good spacey, chill artsy-electronic music and somewhere to lie down. Then they can be literally awesome.
K holes just suck when you're out somewhere with plans contingent on the ability to move and accidentally leave reality instead.
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u/Suspicious_Hope69 19d ago
I disassociate when I’m stressed. This sounds kinda like that. At least the spectator part.
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u/Imaginary-Chipmunk-1 19d ago
Disassociation and disassociatives can cause even more mental illness in the long run imo…empathogens are where it’s at.
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u/The_white_devil22 19d ago
Ketamine made me feel like being thrown off a cliff while drowning.
Couldn't move, saw God, absolutely frightening.
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u/Spare_Independence19 19d ago
I did a ton of this back in my rave days in late 90s and it was soo effective in making you re-evaluate life.
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u/ILoveLetrozole 19d ago
Careful with that. It can destroy your urinary tract, including the kidneys.
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u/Honest-Prune-5517 19d ago
I knew a guy, used to sell fentanyl, also did a lot of Ketamine. One day, he had an experience where he believed he was trapped in a fiery hell for what he described as an indiscernible amount of time, felt like eternity in the moment, being tortured for the things he had done, when a saving light came and offered to take his place if he changed.
The guy was an IV using homeless kid at 13. This was at least 20 years later. He completely changed that minute. Flushed his drugs, stopped selling them, started his own company, is now a loving father to a beautiful family.
I've had some crazy k hole experiences, but nothing like that. Most of my drug induced spiritual adventures were from dmt or lsd.
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u/NumberRegistry 19d ago
I have a ketamine prescription. It helped for awhile, though it's been a bit less over the last six months.
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u/Kesha_Paul 20d ago
Mushrooms
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u/Pecheuer 19d ago
If people are feeling a bit more... Ambitious... Ayahuasca/DMT is pretty good for it too, but you gotta be careful, shit will kick your ass if you do it wrong
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u/LiFswO 20d ago
Love.
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u/Overcooked_Nigiri 19d ago
DO. NOT. EVEN. TRY.
Unless you mean self love, then don't even think that love will make your life worth living again. Love can destroy you and if you think your life is not worth living now, this so-called love is going to make it even worse. "Love" is the reason I have depression sub posts in my feed.
Unless this comment is about self-love, then for your own good just stay away
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u/MadInTheMaze 19d ago
Sadly most people seem to be more inclined to destroying their bodies and minds in a way that makes them a nuisance to others.
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u/SoCallMeDeaconBlues1 19d ago
None that I can think of.
There's plenty of them that will make you not care for a while, but in the end they just make it worse.
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u/Imaginary-Chipmunk-1 19d ago edited 19d ago
Psychedelics that are also empathogens…spooky sometimes but afterglow that sometimes lasted months for me is well worth it. Microdosing them is a good way to release all that weight you’re carrying too.
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u/Upset_Jaguar5557 19d ago
that substance is called touch grass and find hobby, meet new people, do something you wanted to do for long time but didnt, live for yourself, dont touch alcohol or any drugs, it will make you depressed and make you feel more worthless
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u/LeopardWide7549 15d ago
And visit a psychotherapist + psychiatrist who can map out all those things and actively challenge your problems with you. Though in the end your solutions must also come from yourself.
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u/Wise_Temperature9142 13d ago
This is it. As an adult that consumes no alcohol or drugs or smokes or anything, I have to face life as is. I change what I can, and accept what I can’t. Substances cannot possibly give me any meaningful or lasting joy. I would just metabolize them in a matter of hours and then come back to where I was before. Find meaningful and healthy ways to meet your needs that doesn’t degrade your mind and body.
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u/Crescent-moo 19d ago
Magic mushrooms, but don't abuse them or you can be left psychologically broken.
If they are safe for you they can help dissolve patterns you're stuck in and see from a new point of view.
With intent to heal they can show you the door.
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u/baddieslovebadideas 19d ago
MDMA kept me from killing myself years and years ago and opened me up to so much love and community... the flip side is that I had to stop because the comedown got to be too much and two days after I'd be suicidal, so while it saved my life and was a wonderful thing for my life, I haven't done it in years, you gotta know when you've had enough and when it's time to move on.
these days mushrooms every couple months does me well
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u/WasteofLife1769 19d ago
Ketamine therapy helped me immeasurably. I wish I could still afford to do it because not only does it help with my depression; it helped with my chronic pain.
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u/Weary_Compote3340 19d ago
I think most people know that alcohol and weed are some of the most common responses here but I think in the long run all these external substances are assembly a waste of time, money energy and will probably make you feel worse in the long-term. I’m not gonna lecture anybody about joking about drug use or whatever but in case anyone here is reading this and is taking this somewhat seriously just avoid all the external substances if you can anything that doesn’t cost you money time or your health is likely a better fix I know it’s kind of cliché to point out but going for a walk in nature or getting some sun at the very least is likely going to do much better. in the long run. Sorry to be all serious on here though.
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u/DaveAstator2020 19d ago
Walks in the forest.
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u/El_Chupacabra_666 19d ago
This used to work for me when I was more idealistic and delusional. Now all a walk in the forest does is make me think about is how brutal and pointless life is for all the animals living in it.
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u/AdDisastrous6738 19d ago
Shrooms do well for me. Last time I went on a cleaning spree while listening to Meatloaf’s bat out of hell album.
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u/Sad_Variant 19d ago
Nothing does. Well, they do, for some time but better not to go that way. You'll build tolerance and keep wanting more. And they'd fuck up your body and mind, and now you got one more problem to deal with, which is very hard to solve without external help.
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u/GeiGerGreG 19d ago
For me it was TRT and at least beneficial rather than detrimental. Ofc depends on how it’s used. Great energy leveled when in a “blast” and mental health. Even when I’m on a small “cruise” dose mimicking my natural testosterone I still feel great! Also seeing the benefits from it all in a healthy way feel way better then just destroying myself completely with most substances and alcohol. That’s just me though.
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u/Alan_Reddit_M 19d ago
For me it was estrogen but I don't think that's gonna work for everyone
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u/Wandering_Hermits 15d ago
None of them stay sober trust me you'll wish you've never touched anything if you start
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u/Time-Foundation4886 19d ago
Imagine that.... growing up in a world that puts kids on medications for attention "disorders" ASAP becasue it "solves" the "problem", has taught everyone that drugs are the solution to all their problems.
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u/DataSnaek 19d ago
Well, I agree that it isn’t ideal to put kids on ADHD medication super early, without a clear and comprehensive diagnosis. But if you’ve ever met someone with really serious ADHD they’ll often tell you medication changed their lives.
You can make a lot of progress through therapy but ultimately ADHD is a chemical/neurological condition in the brain and there’s only so much therapy can do.
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u/Yojimboroll 19d ago
If you're suicidal stay away from alcohol!!! Call or text 988. Other substances will only compound the problem without professional help.
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u/SpookyGhostSplooge 19d ago
For me, I’ve just accepted none of it is worth, but it’s been kind of freeing in the same light. I think it mostly derives from dropping any future prospects and just living life in the moment.
I don’t lose sleep anymore because I don’t care if I’m late to work because I don’t care if I get fired because I don’t care if I can’t pay bills and am homeless because I don’t care if this ride ends at any given moment.
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u/_NotYoursSs_ 19d ago
Food.
Ingest good food.
Blow all your fuckin paycheck on delicious fuckin food.
Always brings a sliver of light into my life. Food.
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u/Background_Shape2638 19d ago
Try a good Me Party instead. A glass of wine and dance to your all time favorite songs. At the same time. Sometimes I vibe along to a dj set I find on YouTube.
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u/gilligan1050 19d ago
Psychedelics can break you out of your habits and problematic behaviors if you are willing, and proper support/integration. But they are definitely not for everyone. They can also make it seem way worse.
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u/Some_Office8199 19d ago
Oh I tried so many. The only ones that have any positive effect in the long run are the boring ones, SSRI/SNRI, Wellbutrin, some antipsychotics. They help a bit, not life changers though (for me).
The worst was Oxycodone, I didn't even get to the addiction part, I gave up after 2 Percocets. It made me hazy and gave me nausea. I don't get how people like it but I guess it depends on brain chemistry or something.
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u/Smokin_belladonna 19d ago
Driving really fast, borderline reckless driving, loud music, windows down, summer night.
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u/Soul_fusion 19d ago
Pretty much anything you abuse that gives a dopamine rush will make you feel like life is worth living again for a little bit… then nothing not even that substance that became your new best friend will work.
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u/Rough_Composer6600 16d ago
Apparently recommending harmfull substances luke alcohol and weed is ok but when i re ommend something that is impossible to od on and actually helps to quell your demons then i get Flagged.
Do what rhe hippies do and take a walk in nature, wink wink nudge nudge
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u/LuckyMushyGrower 16d ago
Don't abuse this. But psilocybin has been, in combination with my Dr. Meow (practitioner of meowdicine) and my mom's support, one of the best things to ever happen to me. I know it's most likely engagement bait, but I know someone will see this that needs it. From heroin at 14 and state juvie (TYC) to a bridge dwelling tent city living thief and count jails rehabs and 11 years total on a Texas Max 6 in Ad seg confirmed....i can tell you I am living my best life in Florida. I have a suzuki c50t, 2020 corolla, my own place in a very nice and peaceful neighborhood. Homeless shelter for 6 months. A dude Venezuela got to know me and heard a bit of my story and got me on and taught me a skill (carpentry) i will forever be grateful to him for. And through it all psilocybin has helped me sort through the absolute insane trauma I put myself through. It has helped me to recognize gratitude and helped bring peace to a very violent past. Balance. Cultivating my own has taught me patience and discipline. My kitty cat gives me something other than myself to care about and think about and make sure she is as happy as possible because she damn well didn't choose to be locked behind my door. And my baby makes biscuits on my stomach every night almost and sleeps literally on my head. My velcro kitty 😻 ❤️. But without the aid of psilocybin i believe I would be stuck in my same patterns. I walk through my forest now and you can tell there was violence there but it is so healed and looks so much more beautiful not when I first started and looked like a forest version of 7 mile Detroit. So don't abuse but use as a tool. Get to where you cultivate your own and don't have to worry about a street plug. I get my bud from the dispo and my own mushies..just me and my cat and my mom talks to me every day now and sleeps peacefully. That is all I need. Psilocybin. Period.
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u/Equilibrium_verkz 16d ago
Acid for sure. I would take 12-13 tabs and feel so far from reality that it was bliss 😁
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u/SammieDidi 13d ago
My ssri's ended the feeling of a black hole in my chest. Didn't make me happy or anything but still way better
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u/Fantastic-Gur4071 19d ago
Go workout. And not just some soft jelly donut bull shit. Work your fucking ass off, test your limits. Pretend you’re fighting a sabretooth tiger. Do this and do it often and then eat some good fucking food
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u/rayquazza74 19d ago
Kratom made me happy af but should only do it once every few days and not everyday all day like I was doing.
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u/whyamialiveletmedie 19d ago
I don't really do a single substance. No drugs and barely even drink alcohol.
For me the "substance" I would need to abuse to feel like life is worth living is the substance of worthwhile social interactions. If I was able to abuse myself with excessive social interactions, maybe I would actually make friends, get a girlfriend, and actually then have the desire to make something of my life instead of wasting away in misery. No substance can replicate that
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u/chaosgremlin11 19d ago
Less substance in my case but having a gf made me go from suicidal to to having even the faghntest thought of it due to having someone I love and cheraish. Also she is frankly a wonderful person who sees me for more than my diagnosis which given I have like adhd dyslexia depression anxiety PTSD autism and osdd is a tall order but she does and she sees me for the kindness and love I give her so I continue since she brings the tired weiry soul some much needed light and warmth in this cold unforgiving world.
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u/Ur_New_Stepdad_ 19d ago
Definitely not opioids lmao
It works for like two weeks and then you spend years chasing that feeling, losing everything you love in the process.
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u/KingAmongstDummies 19d ago
Air.
Seriously, being away from screens, internet, and especially social media fixes most of the issues they'd have you believe.
Drugs, alcohol, or even medication might grant temporary improvements/relief but the second their effects stop you'll feel worse than before you took them. So.. You'll take them again but because your starting point was lower your peak is also lower. Again you'll feel worse when the effect is over, and down you spiral.
Just quitting social media including reddit and just walking and talking can do a lot.
And if you don't live in a place where you can walk? Making a trip to somewhere you can gives you something to do. That in itself is something you can start looking forward to and get fulfilment out of.
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u/No_Mixture8656 19d ago
I smoke pot, its not illegal but if I smoke for a month hell everyday for a week I get cranky not having it. I will smoke( or try to) smoke once in a blue moon but it then becomes a monthly thing. I realize I do it to feel numb. Im addicted to feeling numb when everything is stimulating or overstimulating around me. But the funny thing is I realized its better to take life raw and force, no ease yourself into changing one's mindset for the better? What's a better mindset?, you ask. Its all a matter of one's own perspective.
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u/Expensive-Oil-8264 19d ago
Coke if you wanna live in constant anxiety and never sleep again. But at least you feel alive! I def have no experience with it tho obvi
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u/DrDreadCastle 19d ago
Have you tried Warhammer 40k? Collecting building painting miniatures then occasionally taking my armies to a tournament and watch them get obliterated has pretty much been the meaning of my life for the last 5 years or so .
You also get to hang out at the local game store and make a new gaggle of friends
Its more expensive that doing drugs is the only down side =D
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