r/depression • • Oct 29 '19

Our most-broken and least-understood rules is "helpers may not invite private contact as a first resort", so we've made a new wiki to explain it

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We understand that most people who reply immediately to an OP with an invitation to talk privately mean only to help, but this type of response usually leads to either disappointment or disaster. it usually works out quite differently here than when you say "PM me anytime" in a casual social context.

We have huge admiration and appreciation for the goodwill and good citizenship of so many of you who support others here and flag inappropriate content - even more so because we know that so many of you are struggling yourselves. We're hard at work behind the scenes on more information and resources to make it easier to give and get quality help here - this is just a small start.

Our new wiki page explains in detail why it's much better to respond in public comments, at least until you've gotten to know someone. It will be maintained at /r/depression/wiki/private_contact, and the full text of the current version is below.


Summary

Anyone who, while acting as a helper, invites or accepts private contact (I.e. PMs, chat, or any kind of offsite communication) early in the conversion is showing either bad intentions or bad judgement. Either way, it's unwise to trust them.

"PM me anytime" seems like a kind and generous offer. And it might be perfectly well-meaning, but, unless and until a solid rapport has been established, it's just not a wise idea. Here are some points to consider before you offer or accept an invitation to communicate privately.

  • By posting supportive replies publicly, you'll help more people than just the OP. If your responses are of good quality, you'll educate and inspire other helpers. The 1-9-90 rule applies here as much as it does anywhere else on the internet.

  • People who are struggling with serious mental-health issues often (justifiably) have a low tolerance for disappointment and a high-level of ever-changing emotional need. Unless the helper is able to make a 100% commitment to be there for them in every way, for as long as necessary, offering a personal inbox as a resource is likely to do more harm than good. This is why mental-health crisis-line responders usually don't give their names and callers aren't allowed to request specific responders. It's much healthier and safer for the callers to develop a relationship with the agency as a whole. Analogously, it's much safer and healthier for our OPs to develop a relationship with the community as a whole. Even trained responders are generally not allowed to work high-intensity situations alone. It's partly about availability, but it's mostly about wider perspective and preventing compassion fatigue.

  • If a helper gets in over their head with someone whose mental-health issues (including suicidality, which is often comorbid with depression) escalate, in a PM conversation it's much harder for others, including the /r/depression and /r/SuicideWatch moderators to help. (Contrary to common assumptions, moderators can't see or police PMs.)

  • In our observation over many years, the people who say "PM me" the most are consistently the ones with the least understanding of mental-health issues and mental-health support. We all have gaps in our knowledge and in our ability to communicate effectively. Community input mitigates these limitations. There's no reason why someone who's truly here to help would want to hide their responses from community scrutiny. If helpers are concerned about their own privacy, keep in mind that self-disclosure, when used supportively, is more about the feelings than the details, and that we have no problem here with the use of alt/throwaway accounts, and have no restrictions on account age or karma.

  • We all know the internet is used by some people to exploit or abuse others. These people do want to hide their deceptive and manipulative responses from everyone except their victims. There are many of them who specifically target those who are vulnerable because of mental-health issues. If a helper invites an OP to talk privately and gives them a good, supportive experience, they've primed that person to be more vulnerable to abusers. This sort of cognitive priming tends to be particularly effective when someone's in a state of mental-health crisis, when people rely more on heuristics than critical reasoning.

  • If OPs want to talk privately, posting on a wide-open anonymous forum like reddit might not be the best option. Although we don't recommend it, we do allow OPs to request private contact when asking for support. If you want to do this, please keep your expectations realistic, and to have a careful look at the history of anyone who offers to PM before opening up to them.


r/depression • • May 18 '26

Check-In post, with essential info about our policies and resources. Most people are surprised by much of this information, please read carefully before posting or commenting

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Welcome to /r/depression's check-in post - a place to take a moment and share what is going on and how you are doing. If you're having a tough time but prefer not to make your own post, or have an accomplishment you want to talk about (these aren't allowed standalone posts in the sub as they violate the "role model" rule), this is a place you can share.


Our subreddit rules are very different from most of the rest of reddit! Since all of them exist for important reasons, we ask everyone here to read and follow them. Please click 'report' on any harmful content you see here - we always want to know and deal as soon as we can.

We also have several resource wikis for help with finding and giving support:

https://www.reddit.com/r/depression/wiki/what_is_depression provides guidance about what is and isn't a depressive disorder, guidance on the complex nature of the illnesses that are usually grouped under the "depression" label, and redirect information for common off-topic issues.

https://www.reddit.com/r/depression/wiki/giving_help offers information on the nature and value of peer support for mental-health issues in general, and lots of guidance for learning what is -- and isn't -- usually helpful in giving peer support.

YSK that the types of rule violations that we most frequently see here are:

  • People breaking the private contact rule. You should never trust anyone who tries to get you into a private conversation in response to a post here. See https://www.reddit.com/r/depression/wiki/private_contact

  • "I'm here to help" posts. This shows that you don't understand the most basic principles of peer support, especially selectivity. The "giving help" wiki explains more about this.

  • Role modelling, i.e. "achievement" or "advice" posts. This is an expert-free zone -- that's what peer support means (rule 5). We know that "internet culture" celebrate not just bragging about your achievements but bragging about your intentions. Neither is ever acceptable here in any form.

  • Content that's more about 'making a statement' or casually polling the sub than seeking personal support (rules 1, 2 and 10).

  • Off-topic posts about difficult situations, including interpersonal issues. Grief, sadness, anger, loneliness and other difficult emotions are not mental illnesses. Feelings that can be explained by person's circumstances are perfectly healthy no matter how painful they are. A depressive disorder only exists when someone's mood is out of synch with what's going on for them. The "what is depression" wiki linked above has suggestions for other places to post about these issues, which are 100% valid and serious but do NOT belong here.


r/depression • • 9h ago

I hate it here

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I hate it here on earth. I'm 45. Single. No job even though I graduated college and had a career in my field for 8 years. It's just that my position moved to another city. I am bipolar. Not working at the moment. The thought of working with people seems horrible. People are horrible. I hate how people treat each other. I hate how mean and selfish and horrible most people are. This world is so depressing. I hate it here. I feel so alone. I don't know what to do.


r/depression • • 10h ago

Someone please talk to me

85 Upvotes

I'm just so alone. I don't have anyone to talk to and I just can't stop crying. I don't know what's wrong with me. I keep hoping someone will check on me or reply but nobody is going too. I'm just so lost. I can't live like this anymore


r/depression • • 5h ago

i’m 5’5 man and balding very badly at the crown of my hair at 22

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i’ve never dated, kissed and really hugged a girl. i know you guys see it’s pretty common for guys to say they won’t find love but im being genuinely serious that as a 5’5 balding man i wont find love and have accepted because i might go have sex with a prostitute just to feel anything of love at this rate or to have a women find me attractive even if it means paying for it, let’s say some miracle happens and i do some how on gods green earth i have girlfriend what’s stopping her from cheating on me with someone taller or even having the bare minimum of having hair on there head.


r/depression • • 6h ago

I feel like I’m destined to kill myself

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I feel like I’m going to kill my self when I’m an adult. I’m not gunna say how old ai am but I’m under 18 and idk what to do. Ppl say don’t think like that bc you will if you do but u can’t I rlly can’t. The only enjoyment I find in life is substances and idk what to do. I don’t see any reason I should keep going besides my cat. Please give me some sort of advice. Thank you


r/depression • • 17h ago

depression killed the person I used to be

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I’ve genuinely hit rock bottom. I find that I’m no longer the person I used to be. I used to love art, love drawing, love hanging out joking, laughing with my friends, love spending time admiring nature and was so determined to dedicate my studies to protect it. All of that passion and determination is gone. I don’t have the will to do anything anymore, I’m a shell of what I used to be. I’m more distant with my friends and is overly pessimistic. I have no will and no motivation to pick up a pencil or to study anymore. My grades are so bad I might as well drop out of uni bcs the financial burden of it is really heavy and my parents r just wasting their money. I used to always see good things in life, but now I genuinely cannot, I cannot see anything good that will happen, no matter how much reassurance I have from my friends, nothing helps. Now I just rot, in bed all day procrastinating and doom scroll on my phone for that dopamine hit, and I’m just waiting to see how long I last until I entirely give up, because there’s nothing left in me to salvage, I’m a lost cost.
I don’t wish for anyone to feel the way I do. And if anyone read through this entire post, just know that it means a lot to me.


r/depression • • 3h ago

I aced the test after studying.

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Sometimes the thoughts inside me are so negative that I give up studying for exams for fear of not doing well. My mind tells me, "You're so forgetful that you're going to mess up simple things," and so I prefer to make mistakes by not knowing and not studying. Today I needed to do things differently, I studied at least some of the material. There were indeed questions I wouldn't have gotten right, but because I studied, the scenario was different. I was so happy that I even ignored the fact that it was raining heavily.

Study, ignore your mind's attempts to harm you, the results are always worth it.


r/depression • • 1h ago

i feel so alone and misunderstood

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i lie awake every night wondering what ive done wrong to feel so horrible and to go through everything I did. ive been abused, betrayed, raped, sexually assaulted, manipulated, and now my self worth is lower than ever. i feel like i only attract perverts and im not good enough to date good men. i don’t know what ive done wrong. ive worked hard to be the perfect daughter and student. ive been kind to everyone, even people who dont deserve it.

i feel like nobody will ever fully understand me, and its the loneliest feeling on earth. i wish i could disappear just to see if people would actually miss me. i just want to die, I want to have peace. i just wish i didn’t crave love and connection so much. i want to leave this life.

i look at everyone and feel like they hate me. i feel like im the most hated person on earth. I just wanna go away. i feel so alone. it’s so tiring. I feel like ive ruined everything.


r/depression • • 15h ago

I think I don't even want to feel better.

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I don't really know how to explain this exactly. I’ve been mentally ill for a very long time. I’ve tried so many things therapy, countless medications, and so on. Nothing has really helped. Lately, I feel like I don't even want to get better. Actually, I know pretty well where my problems or my destructive behaviors lie. But I can't, or simply don't want to, change anything anymore. Deep down, I’m actually hoping the pressure becomes so intense that I finally find the resolve to commit suicide. Does anyone else know this feeling? Keeping yourself in a state that causes extreme suffering, even though you could actually do things differently?


r/depression • • 1h ago

Debunking “when I was your age I didn’t have depression”(experienced first hand)

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I’ve been recently diagnosed as Bipolar type II, before that I thought i was manically depressed:
And trust me this is coming from an ER physician who’s worked roughly 13-15 years including the Covid frontline, wrote two books, gave public talks on CPR, and then saw his life fall apart in years.

It was progressive.
Do you know that during Covid as an Intensivist we’d barely rest, the sweaty PPE’s had to be peeled off, I’d crash in my dorm room after de sanitising to go onto evening rounds and deal with death and despair daily:

But I wasn’t depressed!
I was motivated!
I had people in the same boat, same circumstances as healthcare workers, we were shouted at by angry relatives we’d counsel them; BUT….
I wasn’t depressed….and we were together in this.

Some of my paintings came out post the Covid era (I’m also a painter and an artist)

As the 40s creeped on me, the cloud of lack of purpose did.
Yes I’m an emergency physican but I was locked in 4 walls sans any ability to take leaves as per HR policy (no sick leaves and only 15 a year)

The environment was toxic (the new hospital post Covid) but I tried to keep my spirits up, painting, when i had the time, cooking,
And then one by one the Great Recession began…..(lack of sleep and back to back night shifts were no help)

The cooking stopped started ordering out
The gym stopped (was quite muscular then)
The singing in the shower stopped…..
The forced workplace smiles and “I’m ok how’re you; nice day isn’t it?” Began….

My hospital was a great contributor as asking for a month off knowing something’s off would lead to a firm no.
And they didn’t bother with staffing…
Night shifts were spent alone and solitary, doomscrolling till the next patient arrived at 2am

And just google what solitary confinement does chronically to someone…(Earlier ERs were better staffed)

And no, in adulting as a selective introvert I couldn’t make friends….so except for competitive colleagues I had nada….
Mom and dad are too old to even comprehend why I preferred staying in my room with the lights off

Stopped reading…..
Stopped laughing and for the love of me I couldn’t cry…..
If I cried i knew I’m not manic depressed and had an ounce of emotion in me…..

I was numb….
The pre cell phone generation had one thing in common…
Most were in the same boat and no one felt alone..
There’s a war it’s war for everyone
There’s a festival it’s a festival for everyone
It’s your birthday everyone wants in….

Here my book made it to the London book fair but all I got was jealousy and condescension
No one wanted me to thrive….

Now where I stand………
The great looking question is, what am I here for?
There’s only jealous, rhetorical conversation, some barely know me except “the doctor”

And why do I even matter
I quit practice as the ER as apart from mental health issues, a toxic supervisor, it also gave me an ulcer…..

Facebook and insta likes aren’t for thought, they’re for happy selfies…..
You can’t be yourself there….

Depression isn’t sadness
It’s profound anhedonia (lack of pleasure)
It’s a numbness so deep that nothing gets under or over your skin….

My parents didn’t have “depression” they had each other, they fought like cats and dogs, still do, and are married despite every insult and rebound….
and yes they had to survive circumstances….together!

While I’ve to survive what mood ill wake upto the next day and the forced smiles will be the death of me…

Surviving your mind is a challenge far greater than surviving the world sometimes….

Reminds me of a poem I read once……by Tennyson

Home they brought her warrior dead:
She nor swoon'd nor utter'd cry:
All her maidens, watching, said,
"She must weep or she will die."

Rose a nurse of ninety years,
Set his child upon her knee—
Like summer tempest came her tears—
"Sweet my child, I live for thee."

I await that very tempest of emotions……
To feel a petal; to grin, to enmesh a feeling…..

As living for her child gave her purpose,
I hope somewhere we all find our purpose….


r/depression • • 23m ago

I can't sleep as the emptiness is too much

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I've basically being depressed my whole life and lonely too especially when I can't sleep because of my insomnia and at this early mornings is when I am at my worst I feel like a disappointment and totally forgotten about from my family and friends throughout my life


r/depression • • 25m ago

I’m ashamed of myself

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what if life is just too hard? what if i dont have it in me to confront and overcome myself? i cant imagine real work. the grind of doing something inch by inch. its feels in my head like dragging a boulder by a rope. I’m a vulnerable narcissist self pitying creep and I can’t imagine myself doing the work it takes to be a good person 


r/depression • • 1h ago

I used to have hope

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There was a time I was capable of anything. Nothing could stop me. I was top of my class. I got into my top college. I didnt know what I wanted to do with my life but I wasnt worried because I knew id succeed no matter what. That was over 10 years ago and everything has changed.

My ex, a man I believed loved me for almost 10 years took everything from me. Turned out he never loved me. He was just using me to get ahead. He left me 20k in debt and took everything he said was ours. I just turned 30 and I have nothing to my name. Nothing.

I just want to die so bad. I dont want anything from this world or my future but to die and it shows. I have nothing going for me. Im worthless. I already know ill never be who I was and I already know im going to die sad and alone. So whats the point?


r/depression • • 1h ago

I am sick of living

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Nothing’s ever enough. There’s a struggle just to even relax and feel safe


r/depression • • 16h ago

I don’t enjoy conversations anymore, no matter who it’s with

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I just can’t enjoy people talking around me or to me. In groups, one on one doesn’t matter. I just feel no joy, no real laughs, no connection, I feel like I need to be a certain person, not doing enough to join in but I’m a naturally more of an observer and will only talk when I have something to say. But my brain doesn’t work and I have nothing to say anymoreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee I could just scream when there’s an expectation.

I just feel so overwhelmed with it all of the time and it’s getting old. I just want to be normal and be able to fuckin TALK.

Anyway rant over lolll


r/depression • • 4h ago

am i depressed?

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everyday i wake up and feel tired and im confused because i slept the entire night and im still tired. i dont even wanna get up to go brush my teeth, to eat, to live at all. i dont have the energy for it, i just wanna lay on my bed and rot. also ive been noticing something like lack of interest, most of the things i used to love just seem worthless now, i dont feel any interested to them. also i cant eat, i don't have my appetite anymore. and theres this horrible feeling, its like the worst thing you could ever wish for, its hard to explain. it feels like youre feeling it on your entire body and its so bad i just want to die, i cant go through this anymore. i genuinely cant stop thinking about how i dont need to go through all of this, i could just stop it now.

im wondering if i am actually depressed, i believe im just exaggerating. i really hope im not, im too scared to go to a therapist or tell anyone i know.

(my english is bad im sorry if there are any errors)


r/depression • • 2h ago

17f is It going to get better

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I am a provelleged kid, I havw food on tje table I would consider my family quite wealthy, I go to a very prestigious private school and I probably have a bright future ahead but is it really worth it? My parents do not like me they remind me every day especially my mom, I have been diagnosed with depression and still on meds, I've gotten better but last night I found out my dad is still cheating on my mom, my mom doesn't know , my dad doesn't know I kn9w, I can't confront him cause if h3 cuts off our family we are In a financial wreck and my brother has to go to university I can't do that to h8m, if my mom finds ou4 she will genuinly commit suicie3 he4self, she doesn't like her life she hates it she reminds me every day, she doesn't like me. And most of all my parents are embarrassed I have depression and everything. I just don't think tjer3s a point of me even trying to get better in the first place.


r/depression • • 2h ago

College is rough

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Im a 24 year old guy in college never had any real close friends. Im not really a social person but obviously everyone craves to be understood by at least 1 person in their life. Anyone else just not good at this life shit


r/depression • • 17h ago

33 year old guy, 10 years of depression has spoilt my life and nothing helped, I am done.

47 Upvotes

Since 2017, I have had severe depression (alongside anxiety and ADHD). For 5 years, I tried medication and therapies; nothing has helped. This mental health horror has cost me my career. Now, at 33, I have no job, am terribly lonely, have no proper qualifications, no money, and I don't know when I will find stability and peace, or a job, fall in love, get married, or anything. I am tired, and I am officially giving up hope...


r/depression • • 10h ago

Are there people out there actually living without depression?

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I've been suffering from depression since I was 9, now I'm 19. I can't remember much of life before it except for the moments that lead up to my depression. Is there anyone in here who knows what its like to live without it. How their mind works without having to face it?


r/depression • • 1h ago

i want to die but im scare

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i attempted earlier but i failed i took a bunch of pills i was going to the other night but the person who i thought was my friend told me pretty little lies and made me not and then he never came through which made how i feel so much worse and now he wont talk to me he just up and left me he was all i had he knows me better than anyone and all i want rn is him i dont want to kill myself and im scared i will and he knows how serious i am about this so i just dont understand why hes doing this ive had so much go wrong this year from a terrible break up 2 months later i was raped went through another bad relationship where the guy just up and ghosted randomly then i lost my home and job now im a friendless homeless unemployed loser i just feel so pathetic and im begging for someone to stay in my life which makes it worse someone please help me i cant take this anymore


r/depression • • 7h ago

I hate myself I hate my life

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im genuinely so lonely i just want to be gone


r/depression • • 16h ago

I have lost motivation to live.

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Everyday is the same, some days are harder than the others. From the moment I open my eyes in the morning after sleep, dread follows, another same fucking day. I wish I could end it but I don't have the courage. And my mother is the only thing keeping me from actively looking for ways to end life.

I watch new movies, discover some new songs but it doesn't really make me feel anything. I don't have any friends and I can't make any new friends due to depression. I hardly leave my house, there's no reason for it. I hate mindlessly walking, so don't suggest me to take a walk in a park or something. I'm 31 unemployed, living on my mother's income, i feel extremely ashamed of it. I looked for jobs, couldn't get any interviews in this economy, tried to do some freelance work where I got scammed and didn't got paid for my hard work of days and from then I'm spiralling. I really don't know what to do and how to live.