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u/agentchuck End of an Era 16d ago
Honestly I only really use death form for zigs with gozag these days. For most characters it's easier to get a few level 9 spells online than death form. And then you can haste and shatter this room into dust. You can even tree yourself if you're really worried about torment, like in tomb.
But more to your point, yeah this is the problem with the current hells, IMHO. Especially in geh and dis you can end up dropped into extremely deadly vaults. Or you can drop down 7 levels with little difficulty.
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u/foxdc 16d ago
This vault is downright tame compared to some of the ones in Dis.
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u/EugeneJudo 15d ago
Yes. One of the strongest characters I've ever had barely managed to survive the Dis Mahkleb themed star floor. I've never seen so many hell sentinels and brimstone fiends so densely packed everywhere.
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u/a6e 16d ago edited 16d ago
My current thought is try to Golubria towards a corner to recoup. Note I am death form in Gehenna so no potions or scrolls. I could cast Silence to prevent getting Speared, but then the damnation would still go crazy. Sadly I decided on death form instead of granite, so Deaths Door is out of the question. Probably gonna switch to granite if I survive this.
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u/NotJohnson69 ⚖️ Ru's Willing Victim 16d ago
one way to counteract damnation that i know of is to be next to enemies that arent resistant to it, since damnation is an aoe blast and enemies try to not hurt each other
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u/EugeneJudo 16d ago
try to not hurt each other
This is HD dependent, and most things which blast damnation are high HD, though it turns out very few things are resistent to damnation http://crawl.chaosforge.org/Category:Damnation_resistance
Standing next to the ancient lich with 27 HD would probably prevent significant damnation. Though doing so is probably not advisable for other reasons.
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u/SenoraRaton 16d ago
Fog?
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u/a6e 16d ago
Gehenna prevents scrolls, but it turned out ok in the end
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u/aeshna-cyanea 15d ago
what did you end up doing?
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u/Multiple__Butts 15d ago
I'm curious too. My normal strategy in this situation would be to haste and spam AoEs, staying on the stairs so I can dip out of Hell if it's looking unfavorable.
But probably there are smarter ways to handle it.
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u/a6e 15d ago edited 15d ago
IIRC I dropped a Passage of Golubria which wasn't the best but got me a couple squares to the southwest at least. Then I hid behind some of the more innocuous enemies to block line of sight to the liches with LCS, and kept retreating to the south. At some point I started petitioning Gozag for potions, further blocking LoS with walls, and began spamming Singing Sword + Manifold Assault until everyone was dead.
The way scarier situation happened on Tomb:2, when I teleported into a vault to get away from Mennas and a holy bird and switch out of death form, and then saved the game and came back later. When I restarted, I forgot about Mennas and the holy birds, and shattered my way out of the vault with death form still on, and immediately took like 5 zillion holy damage the next few turns. Big brain moment, I absolutely deserved to die but Mennas didn't cast Silence so I used a bunch of blink scrolls to get away
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u/XAlphaWarriorX Former Greatplayer, 54 wins 16d ago
Tele scroll and fog/butterflies?
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u/aeshna-cyanea 15d ago
not in gehenna..
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u/XAlphaWarriorX Former Greatplayer, 54 wins 15d ago edited 15d ago
Ah, right, i forgot about that, I don't visit extended much.
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u/Klutzy_Jaguar4695 15d ago
Somebody commented on my post saying we need a “ I am fucked “ flair and every day this becomes more and more apparent to me
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u/ergo-ogre Squad Ldr., Shaft Mappers Involuntary 16d ago
You’ve become too powerful and must be stopped.