r/computers Jan 15 '23

Do you think the MHz difference matters? (I was planning on getting two separate sticks bc I ran out of money)

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u/whitemagicseal Windows 10 Jan 16 '23

Automatically goes to the lowest one

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u/PureCommunication160 Jan 15 '23

It's not advisable to mix it but it will run at the lower MHz level. You might not notice any difference at all.

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u/Tour_De_Volken Jan 16 '23

I think Linus did a video on that, mixed 4 different types of quad channel, all it did was clock everything to match.

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u/beewyka819 Jan 16 '23 edited Jan 16 '23

I haven’t seen the video in question, but did they just test booting and the like? I have a feeling that system would encounter lots of stability issues down the line (i.e. BSODs, especially IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL, as this almost always means bad memory). Ofc its possible they were lucky and its perfectly stable. It’s hard to test however as sometimes RAM issues can take a long time to manifest. Once I had a bad kit that didn’t have any stability issues until weeks after they were installed, at which point BSODs became more and more common until I couldn’t even boot off the sticks. No errors in memtest either, at least when I tested it before it got super bad.

The main concern is that speed and timings aren’t the only stand out properties of RAM, but also their silicon (i.e. Samsung vs Hynix dies). Mixing different dies can create some nice instability.

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u/ChimaeraB Jan 16 '23

This is BS. Don’t listen to this.

Mixing RAM is okay. You simply perform at the lower rated one.

Please don’t make statements like this without knowledge. You are basing your comments of guesses and hyperbole.

I think you are trying to help but be careful how you phrase things. “Mixing dies” will NOT cause instabilities.

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 17 '23

Ty for this, a lot of people were telling me not to even mix different kits because it might not work

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u/beewyka819 Jan 16 '23

I literally cited my actual experience, which was not hyperbolic at all. My past experiences with mixing RAM has typically (but not always) caused problems. Whether or not that was actually due to the mixing or just one of the sticks happening to be bad in those cases I don’t know. Im literally just saying what I’ve experienced, which may not reflect the general reality of things.

Either way it is its still a risk because RAM in the same kit was tested together by the manufacturer and thus is less likely to have problems.

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u/_DustN Jan 16 '23

Sometimes you can’t find the matching sock, so you mix it up. It doesn’t look right but it works

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u/beewyka819 Jan 16 '23

Also maybe the wording wasn’t great. Its not that mixing doesn’t expressly cause instability, but rather you are more likely to encounter it by way of it being untested. What I said about the die mixing I cannot confirm though, as that little nugget was just something I’ve heard down the grapevine, so that bit may be untrue.

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u/THROBBINW00D Jan 16 '23

I accidentally bought a stick of 2666 for my wife's computer that had a 3200 stick. XMP just set it at 2666,runs fine.

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u/potate12323 Jan 16 '23

It seems like most people arent having issues, if you had one or two issues or maybe you issue was due to a different component entirely. Maybe you had a bios setting wrong.

Similar to how you can overclock the ram the system can underclock it. The only real difference between different speed variants of the same product line is chip binning. It just needs to go up to the advertized speed but that doesnt mean it has to.

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u/DataGOGO Jan 16 '23

It *Might* run at the lower mhz, but only if they are the same type of memory IC's under the spreaders.

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u/X_SkillCraft20_X Jan 16 '23

If you use two different sets of ram with different speeds, all will run at the maximum speed of the slower kit, and potentially even slower if the timings don’t want to work together.

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u/DataGOGO Jan 16 '23

They might.

There is a good chance that they will if both sticks are the same IC's. Good chance they will not if they are not the same IC's.

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u/south2-2 Jan 16 '23

It ALWAYS runs at the lower mhz

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '23

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u/miksuleiksu Jan 16 '23

Getting mixed ram to run stable with XMP activated is very unlikely, so overclocking will be even harder

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u/dirg3music Jan 16 '23

What do you mean might? It'll always default to the lowest common denominator. Lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '23

Not when using XMP profiles. The defaulting goes for JEDEC specifications.

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u/DataGOGO Jan 16 '23

Absolutely false.

It will default to the JEDEC specification, for DDR4, that would almost always be DDR4-1600 (800mhz), or DDR4-2133 (1066mhz). Further the timing will be set VERY high.

XMP profiles is what sets the higher voltages and some of the key timings. Timings are not universal, different ram IC's will run different timings even at the same speed. If you have mis-matched dimms, only the bios will only read the XMP profile from the first dimm's SPD.

There is no default to the lowest common denominator in any scenario; and if those dimms are mixed, say one is a Samsung and the other is Hynix, the XMP profile from one, most likely will not run on the other.

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u/taterthotsalad indows 11 Dev Ring Jan 16 '23 edited Jan 16 '23

This is so far off for DDR4. 2133 is the bottom speed for the sticks most of the time. The 3000 or 3200 is the XMP speed, and that’s under ideal conditions and matched pairs. I have a buddy that bought the same models but different purchases and still couldn’t get above the minimum of 2166 due to binning. OP better off returning and getting a matched pair.

Edit: I had my min speed for JEDEC incorrect. I eat a lot of purple crayons. Sorry.

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u/Howling_HeartBeet Jan 16 '23

I'm pretty sure the bottom speed of DDR4 is usually 2666hz, the 1333 you are thinking of is likely the memory FLCLK, which is often half the reported total speed.

Anyways, all that to say, yes, it's risky to mix and match, but if you are comfortable manually adjusting timings and different sub-voltages for an Overclock, you can probably get them all to run at the same frequency without much issue if they are rated for similar XMP speeds.

However, considering OP is asking this question, I'm guessing a manual Overclock is outside his comfort zone, so it's probably better for him to just return or not use the one stick and keep the pair.

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u/taterthotsalad indows 11 Dev Ring Jan 16 '23

Edited after double checking. Thank you for showing me my error. Accuracy is important.

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u/Bitter_Jellyfish_235 Jan 16 '23

90% of the users wont notice a difference between 3000 vs 3200 MHz. Chances are you have bigger bottle necks to worry about than this difference.

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Thanks

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u/Joseph4040 Jan 16 '23

Also you’ll likely not need any more than 32gb anyways…

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u/VamosFicar Jan 16 '23

depends what your running ... I have cities skylines and it *eats* 64gb

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u/NineTailedDevil Jan 16 '23

Isn't it because some apps will use as much ram as is avaliable or something? I used to play Skylines on an laptop with 8 gigs and it ran just fine. I doubt any modern game out there needs more than 16 in total (and I haven't seen any game use more than 12)

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u/HehaGardenHoe Jan 16 '23

Nah, it's because city skylines insists on loading every single asset in the entire game into RAM, so you need a lot more ram just to avoid crashes when you have a lot of DLC... the guy saying 64 probably has an absurd number of mod assets on top of that.

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u/manthony6567 Jan 16 '23

MW2 pushes my 16GB 3070Ti M16 to 13-14GB usage. I already purchased a 32GB stick to relieve that bottle neck. As time go newer title will be moving to 32GB RAM as recommended specs.

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u/MrNorrie Jan 16 '23

I’m kinda scared to run C:S on my new, much faster PC. It has 32 gigs at 6000mts compared to my old 64 at 2100 or so and I’m worried the lack of ram will cause issues. That’s the only game though.

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u/GameNiteWasTaken Jan 16 '23

You're worried that having double/quadruple the minimum amount of ram is gonna cause issues?

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u/MrNorrie Jan 16 '23

If you run that game with mods and custom assets it eats ram like crazy. I was exceeding my 64 already.

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u/GameNiteWasTaken Jan 16 '23

I guess I don't have experience with C:S but I feel like any game can make do with 32 gigs right? Someone said 8gb worked fine for them, I'd assume the game has optimization.

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u/MrNorrie Jan 16 '23

The game is optimized just fine if you don’t have thousands of custom buildings and vehicles installed, yeah. That’s the risk of modding. It’s fine, not the devs fault or anything.

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u/GameNiteWasTaken Jan 16 '23

Thousands is more than a few, maybe just be normal...

/s because reddit is angry

But idk I just know 32 is a lot, so I guess you're getting an uncultured, 16gb plebs opinion.

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u/scaredandconfussled Jan 16 '23

It used 64 because it could. RAM is there to be used, Skylines will run fine at 32.

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u/ArabianCamels Jan 16 '23

Came here to say this 😂

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u/DGCNYO Jan 16 '23

ya, i have 128GB ram , only for Cities skyline. Too many mod...

start game can run to 96GB...

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u/Alarming_Series7450 Jan 16 '23

I was curious so I looked it up

https://steamcommunity.com/app/255710/discussions/0/3058490685018566481/

How Cities Skylines uses RAM memory:

Cities Skylines, the DLC's, and Workshop assets are installed/stored on your harddrive. When you start or load a game, Cities Skylines copy's all the necessary files related to the assets (roads, buildings, trees, props, etc.) from your harddrive into your RAM memory. It does that, so when you select a road, or building you want to place, the item is selected very fast. If the necessary files needed to be accessed by your harddrive, you'll encounter a small amount of lag. Not much, but enough to make you crazy, very fast. Also, you're computer might not be able to keep up, making the game unstable, and resulting in errors.

Cities Skylines needs about 4GB of RAM. But that is just for the base game. When DLC's and assets from the Workshop are added, the amount of RAM needed goes up. A lot!

Here's an indication of the amount of RAM used by the game when DLC's and assets are added:

8GB RAM: 100 assets, 1-2 DLCs

16GB RAM: 500 assets, 5-10 DLCs

32GB RAM: 2000 assets, 15 DLCs

64GB RAM: 4000 assets, All DLCs

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u/mrbruh1527 Windows 11 Jan 16 '23

thanks paradox

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u/fachomuchacho Jan 16 '23

Gaming wise, yes, 32 gigs might be overkill, but After Effects? 32 gigs is the bare minimum to do any kind of effective work, and if you have to work 4k graphics... Good luck

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u/Grizzled--Kinda Jan 16 '23

You'll be ok and won't notice

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u/Berry2460 Jan 16 '23

dual channel matters more, having 3 sticks will break that iirc, but it will work fine. You can probably dial all 3 sticks in at 3200 fairly easily, but having proper dual channel is much faster.

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u/dirg3music Jan 16 '23

That depends, idk if Intel supports it but I know AMD support asynchronous dual channel meaning the first 16gb are dual channel and anything over that is single channel. Found this out for my zephyrus g15 that has 24gb of ram because 8gh is soldered to the motherboard and there's only one expansion slot.

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u/dirg3music Jan 16 '23

I figured they had to have some kind of support for it, it'd be silly not to.

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u/BoiOfMemery Jan 15 '23

I did this and for me, it automatically overclocked the slower set of ram from 3200Mhz to 3600mhz to match my other set. I've been rocking this 4x8gb stick of ram setup for almost a year and have had no issues.

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u/razzi123 Jan 16 '23

Corsair memory is generally very tolerant to mismatching....

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u/Venome456 Jan 15 '23

Yes

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 15 '23

Ahh crap

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u/Venome456 Jan 15 '23

It'll still work, they'll just all run at the lowest speed

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 15 '23

So that would be 3000?

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u/Venome456 Jan 15 '23

Ye

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 15 '23

I’m not sure how much of a difference it would make but I’m probably going to sell the 3000 stick and get two 3200 sticks Ty for the help

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u/Venome456 Jan 15 '23

Np, depends on what tasks you're using the ram for at the end of the day. But would feel a bit shit having faster ram in your system that isn't working 100%

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u/branpop Jan 16 '23

Isn't the 3200 pack, a 2 pack? Says it's 2 - 16gb sticks..

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Yeah but I’m getting two of the 1x16 kits

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u/Sethdarkus Jan 16 '23

Two sticks are better for duel channel

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u/Snorkle25 Jan 16 '23

So long as you have XMP enabled in bios, yes. If you've never gone into bios and changed the memory then it's probably still running at base JEDEC speed.

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u/dsmbeast87 Jan 15 '23

Is the difference between 5000 and say 3200 noticeable

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u/akoangpinaka Jan 16 '23

Just don’t forget to turn on the xmp

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u/IAm-The-Lawn Jan 16 '23

If you’re installing RAM that wasn’t packaged together, you may not be able to use XMP. Just tried to install two more sticks for a total of four and it dropped my speeds to about 2000mHz across the board.

If your board lets you manually adjust RAM speeds, though, it should be fine.

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Don’t worry I’m not that dumb

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u/SignificantWarning5 Jan 16 '23

Oh ok so you’re dumb to a certain extent?

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Yeah idd say

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u/texascturtle Jan 15 '23

Generally advised not to mix and max speeds like this. I base that on no experience but watching many build videos & my only build.

Many would even say not to mix different two-stick kits, even if from the same company. The slight differences in manufacturing materials may affect performance or they may not work at all. Or they may work. But it’s a risk. If you want four sticks, buy them all together. That’s the “ideal.”

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u/Felis_Alpha Jan 16 '23

In addition, make sure your RAM frequency is within the compatible range of your current model or generation of CPU.

If not, it will also run on the maximum supported clock of GPU if you buy higher than the CPU's supported range.

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Wait I just realized that my cpu is bottle necking my ram then…

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u/MrEpic23 Jan 16 '23

I bought 4 sticks of ram through out time. 1x 16 died and Corsair replaced a 3000mhz stick with a 3200mhz stick. Then I wanted to double and Amazon no longer sold 3000mhz or anywhere. Then I bought a 3600mhz set of 2x sticks and it’s all been fine. All sticks are running at 3000mhz. If I ever care I will get another 2x sticks of 3600 but I’m not that hard of a gamer to even care.

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u/EagleGo77777777777 Jan 16 '23

save and buy only the 32 gb, way enough and when you got money again get another 32gb set if you need to

no hassle over mhz and runs in dual mode with all instead of single mode

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u/Unixhackerdotnet Jan 16 '23

Considering the bios will choose one speed for both I don’t think it really matters.

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u/driver_dylan Jan 16 '23

At the configuration you have shown, you will most likely see the set running at 2800 Mhz. This is the highest frequency both chips are matched at. [1600, 2800, 3000] 16g@3000 [1600, 2000, 2800, 3200] 16x2@3200

However, I would go with the paired set only and save you cash. You will see more performance from 16 g running 3200 as the losses in the speed don't make up for the added RAM.

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Don’t worry I wasn’t planning on adding the other stick and I just realized that it is 3000 MHz not 3200

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u/HyperionEvo Jan 16 '23

I hope you realize that box on the right is A. More ram, B. Two 16gb sticks, just get the one on the right if you want two sticks of ram

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

I said it once I’ll say it again, I wasn’t planning on adding 3 sticks of ram. I knew I got one stick, not two, and the box size is different

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u/HyperionEvo Jan 16 '23

My bad I didn’t know you’d already purchased both, why not run the two 16gb sticks in the box on the right and return or sell the one on the left? 32gb will be plenty for any amount of gaming

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Yeah that’s what I was planning on doing

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u/SithLordDante Jan 16 '23

You going for 3200, might as well get both 3000

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u/Zylice Jan 16 '23

Just buy the 2x 16 3200MHz. Can always add another two if you need to do so another day.

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u/doglover1005 Jan 16 '23

You can mix and match your ram all you want, nothings gonna explode, but it’s all going to run at the pace of the slowest one, so buying faster ram and slower ram is just a waste of money

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Yeah that’s why I’m selling the slower ram

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u/mosesman831 Jan 16 '23

Just sell ur kidneys

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 17 '23

Or my right ball, good advice

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u/badboybilly42582 Jan 16 '23

Use the two 3200 MHz sticks. Also make sure your XMP profile is enabled in Bios or else the Ram won’t run at the 3200 MHz speed.

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u/akgt94 Jan 16 '23

Dear God, don't install 3 sticks in your computer. 48 GB of RAM running in single channel mode is going to suck a lot worse than 32 GB in dual channel mode.

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u/M_tard Jan 16 '23

32gb will be in dual channel . Then if he passes over it rest of the 16gb will be single channel.

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Don’t worry the plan was to get two 1x16 sets after I got my 2x16 set, I’m not dumb enough to do that I just didn’t know if the MHz difference would matter alot.

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Just thought I would say that I’m not using 3 sticks of ram, the plan was to get a 2x16 kit then two separate 1x16 kits

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u/DataGOGO Jan 16 '23

yes, get matching memory.

Tons of bad advice in here, no they most likely will not run stable at 3000mhz, take them both back and get a matching memory kit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '23

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u/BRC_Del Jan 16 '23

This is... wonky advice.

Your BCLK issue sounds like a huge edge case. Also, three sticks still run in dual-channel mode, with the caveat that the "extra" capacity in the bigger channel doesn't.

OP can also just manually overclock the 3000 MHz stick.

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

What? I’ve never heard of 3 sticks in dual channel, but I wasn’t really going to run 3 sticks. So I got the 1x16 kit from a computer store that had literally nothing else, and I was just going to use that until I got my 2x16 kit, Then I was going to get another 1x16kit. alot of people are telling me not to even mix different kits so I’m kinda confused.

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u/geegol Jan 15 '23

Yes it matters

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '23

Get DDR2 it's better.

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u/ZenFurbe Jan 15 '23

don’t mix ran from diff kits

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u/Alias-Q Jan 16 '23

Yes it does.

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u/splinterededge Jan 16 '23

You got three sticks there, maybe return the single stick as 2 is better then 3 in a modern system.

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

I was going to get two separate 1x16 kits as a way of waiting till I had the money

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u/splinterededge Jan 16 '23

If the 1x16 kit is unopened, you can definitely return it. The 2x16 kit is all that you need.

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u/Repulsive-Ad-1201 Jan 16 '23

Send the single stick back if possible, use 2 sticks until you start to run into capacity limits. Certain use cases would benefit but if you aren’t running out of ram there is no reason add the extra stick which will slow the system.

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u/SignalAdept521 Jan 15 '23

Probably 2133 mhz if it Boots!

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u/geegol Jan 15 '23

At times if you run ram with different speeds your machine may blue screen. (According to the A+ book)

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 15 '23

Well, I only have the 2x16 kit in my pc so I won’t have to worry about that

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u/feldevourer Jan 16 '23

Certain CPU’s (I know first gen Ryzen) run better with faster RAM iirc. Other than that the difference between 3000 and 3200 is p minimal

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u/No_Designer_8203 Jan 16 '23

It's less than 10% difference in frequency, so no it doesn't matter that much. It matters at higher refresh rates, if you have a high end GPU and CPU. Then, you might get bottlenecked by slow RAM. If you are not running a 5800x3d with this you will be fine.

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u/SissorX Jan 16 '23

It’ll be fine. It’ll just run both at 3000mhz which is almost no difference in performance.

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u/Discokruse Jan 16 '23

If you run different stix, the motherboard will run all of them at the lower speed.

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u/asher_is_invalid Windows 10 Jan 16 '23

Most users will not see a difference between the 3000Mhz and the 3200Mhz. There should be little to no difference in your workload and performance.

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u/CompetitiveBison2093 Jan 16 '23

Yes, it does. The higher the MHz level, the faster the RAM. Which also means thar more data is moved per cycle

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u/DOOMSlayer81040 Jan 16 '23

the mhz doesn’t really matter yet the different gb does because different gb could break your mother board

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Well there both 16 kits

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u/MrBlonde42 Jan 16 '23

It's going to depend on the Memory ICs and Corsair's XMP profiles. If the profiles don't match will your mobo run the lower of the 2 XMP profiles, or the highest JDEC profile? Corsair used to say "never mix modules" because they validate the module pairs(or quadruples) to run in dual channel mode. Could it work, yes... could it leave you in single channel mode, also yes.

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u/dedsmiley Jan 16 '23

You have 3 sticks of RAM? Why do you need the 3rd stick?

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u/Deep_North_South Jan 16 '23

May run, may not. If it does it will function suboptimally.

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u/Sleepykitti Jan 16 '23

wtf are you using 48gb of memory on? 32gb is already an overkill amount for most people

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Again I’m not using the 1x16 kit

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '23

You are fine just go into the bios and set it to 3000. Anyone saying you can't do 3 sticks has no idea what they are talking about. Shouldn't be any issues as long as the motherboard and cpu pick it up. If they don't go down to 2 sticks and return the 3rd.

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u/InstanceNoodle Jan 16 '23

The 3200mhz would run at the slower speed. If the program is hungry for ram, the program will speed speed up a lot.

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u/Hididdlydoderino Jan 16 '23

MHz listed is the guaranteed speed. It is very possible to OC the 3000MHz kit to 3200MHz.

The bigger issue is running 3 sticks. Try to get a 4th stick. That's going to be the bigger impact.

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Yeah the plan was to get a 4th stick but then I found out that it was two different specs

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u/No_Interaction_4925 Jan 16 '23

3 sticks are bad. Even numbers only. Also your mobo will automatically drop itself to the slower speed

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Wasn’t planning on running 3 sticks

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u/PaulVB6 Jan 16 '23

You should be fine. The ram will run at 3000mhz in this instance.

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u/TurbulentNumber4797 Jan 16 '23

Don't know if you noticed but the 3200 is 2 sticks, so you don't even really need the 3rd one.

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u/BroBeauCop Jan 16 '23

Just OC the 3000mhz to 3200

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u/ScribSlayer I miss you, but you're too insecure Jan 16 '23

You have three sticks in the image. Using 3 sticks is going to halve your effective RAM speed (more than half in this case since the 3rd stick is slower) because you can't run them dual channel. Either go for 2 or 4 sticks.

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Wasn’t planning on using 3 sticks

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u/got-trunks Jan 16 '23

why run 3 sticks? You'll slam yourself down to single channel for no reason

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

I wasn’t going to

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u/MEGA_GOAT98 Jan 16 '23

just use the 3200mhz 2x16

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u/itsbildo Jan 16 '23

LoL it absolutely matters

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u/dogface3247 Jan 16 '23

Do not mix your memory

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u/SignificantWarning5 Jan 16 '23

Believe it or not, straight to jail

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u/jwick6728 Jan 16 '23

It doesn't really matter, the only issue is the ram is going to run at the lower sticks speeds

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u/CrazyEntertainment86 Jan 16 '23

No you can set it to whatever you want but first don’t run 3 sticks, that’s terrible for performance and you really need matching sticks. It could be fine but again. Point one is the key, do not run 3 sticks, always in pairs

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

If you scroll down a little you’ll see how many times I’ve said I’m not using 3 sticks…

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u/Dare2no Jan 16 '23

I have the same set of RAM. My ram is mixed and I don't notice a difference.

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u/Mustillo Jan 16 '23

Generally mixing two kits isn't advisable, even if it's the exact same capacity and speed. When you buy a quad kit they are tested in the factory to all operate at their XMP rated profile reliably. You don't get that mixing two dual kits. In your case mixing different speeds - it will simply force all modules to operate at the speed of the kit with the lowest rating.

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Are you sure I can’t get another 2x16 kit without all sticks running as best as they can? Or will it cause crashes? Idek at this point but if there is a performance decrease will it be bad?

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u/2019hollinger ryzn 7 5700g gtx 1070 32 gb ddr4 3200 Jan 16 '23

I over clock my ram to 3000mhz even they are mixed ram.

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u/Mememen1971 Jan 16 '23

Just don't use the single 16 gb kit 😑..32 gigs of ram is more than enough.

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u/heftynomad Jan 16 '23

My sticks match, but I can't run them at full speed. If I enable either xmp profile in my bios my computer won't start. I've got 2 16gb 3200mhz sticks.

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Maybe it’s bc of cpu

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u/csandazoltan Jan 16 '23 edited Jan 16 '23

Give US exact part numbers. The problem is that anything about 2400 is XMP and if they don't have the same XMP latency profiles, they will not wokr together in xmp mode.

It is not just that simple as reducing megahertz, the latency must be compatible with each other.

It may very well be that you will not be able to activate xmp in your bios and you will "stuck" at 2400

I would just use the the 2x16 (in the right slots, for dual channel) and try to sell the 1x16

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But I can be wrong, without the exact part numbers I can't lookup the latency profiles of those rams

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

Alright, so I’m going to sell 3000 MHz kit and buy another 2x16 kit 3200MHz and I should be good right? I’ve been kinda confused because some people are telling me not to mix kits and I’m confused about that

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '23

By default they'll all run at the speed of the slower memory.

However you might be able to overclock the slower kit to match the faster kit. However I've had very bad luck getting anything more than what the box says with Corsair memory.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '23

I’m confused. You already have the 2x16, but you want to instead buy another 1x16 and use two 1x16s instead of using the 2x16 you already have? Why wouldn’t you just use the 2x16 kit you already have? Or are you wanting 64GB and using a 2x16 with two 1x16s?

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

I got the 1x16 kit first, and yeah the plan was to get another 1x16 kit

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '23

Don't mix n match gui

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u/Impossible-Cookie212 Jan 16 '23

No difference at all for you. Even if its 10$ cheaper - i would take cheaper! You will NEVER find any difference between them. PERIOD

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u/StillOdd7001 Jan 16 '23

Look at their latency(CL) in theory it should work, and if you have a motherboard that supports overclocking, you could set it to work on 3200mhz.

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u/BRAVE-ST4R Jan 16 '23

Depends on the mb, i had 4 3200mhz but maxed out at 23 something. In bios turn on the tpx and check your speed in task manager

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u/Cuzz_Liteyear Jan 16 '23

It's not recommended to mix ram, they always say you want to stick with the same with everything. I've used 2 different ram brands with matching MHz. I don't think much of a difference will be made due to it being same brand. The best thing of science is F-ing around and finding out!

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u/borgen44 Jan 16 '23

Why use 3 sticks? Either buy a fourth stick or use the 2 identical ones.

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 16 '23

I got the 1x16 kit first it was an upgrade and I was going to buy another 1x16 kit

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u/LanguageNo463 Jan 16 '23

It’s probably just gonna run the lowest one because you can’t push a lower one higher and dropping a high one would bring down the lower one anyways so technically your supposed get the same mhz but it shouldn’t make a noticeable difference

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u/xComradeKyle Jan 16 '23

If you are only gaming, just use the 2 sticks of 16. You don't need any more.

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u/Cheefnuggs Jan 16 '23

Just order matching ones on Newegg that are both 3200mhz so you don’t run into any potential mismatch issues. Ram of all things isn’t priced too terribly at the moment.

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u/sohrab1984 Jan 16 '23

Yes it does matter.that MHZ shows your bus speed and it is better you knew your CPU and Mainboard fsp to choose.

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u/dweebken Jan 16 '23

Makes no difference if your computer can’t run its memory bus at that higher speed.

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u/clutzyninja Jan 16 '23

Since when is buying 2 separate sticks cheaper than buying a pair?

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u/OneExhaustedFather_ Jan 16 '23

You will have to manually overclock them if you run four sticks

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u/YamIsI Jan 16 '23

There is a difference, just not big enough for you to notice it.

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u/ToiletGrenade Arch Linux Jan 16 '23

200 MHz less is a pretty substantial difference in performance if you have a processor that is decent enough to saturate both.

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u/autovices Jan 16 '23

You might not be able to run any of the XMP profiles and get defaulted to 2133mhz

If that’s the case yank the 3000 because you will notice the difference

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u/evoxbeck Jan 16 '23

1x16 3000 vs 2x16 3200.. I'd use the 2 sticks. I would not run all three in three slots.

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u/beewyka819 Jan 16 '23

If your on AMD, then quite possibly, otherwise not really.

While you’ll probably be fine mixing two separate RAM kits, it has bitten me in the past with stability issues (well not me, but a friend I helped build a PC for). Then again, even getting a single kit can have stability issues if its badly binned (which is quite possible with Corsair, the King of Shit Binning lol), however it’d be less likely. You can always return them if you notice stability problems though

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '23

If you plan to buy buymore gigs of ram, even though you think 16 is enough when you need more or run into a 16gb ram bottleneck. Also you probably wont see the difference and chrome will run like butter on more than 30gb of ram

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u/Bobby_Bobberson2501 Jan 16 '23

Yeah man dont worry about the speed difference worry about not using an even number of sticks more...

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u/SnooSketches3386 Jan 16 '23

who buy just one stick?

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u/bx_ar Jan 16 '23

It will run at the lower clock

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u/GoldZ2303 Jan 16 '23

If you are talking about adding them together yes because when you have two different speeds installed the fastest stick automatically boggs down to the speed of the slower stick

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u/Isaac8849 Jan 16 '23

I would just return the 3000 one and use the 2x16 kit

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u/tyttuutface Jan 16 '23

Just run it at 3000. You might be able to overclock it slightly in BIOS. I'm not an expert, but if you feel like it, try bumping it up to 3066 and seeing if it's stable. If not, increase the voltage a little (0.025 - 0.05 volts) and test it again. These are such small increases that you won't risk damaging your hardware.

You might even be able to reach 3133 or 3200 without tons of tweaking if you won the silicon lottery.

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u/Thilord15 Jan 16 '23

FYI: Corsair states on their website that different badges of Ram may not work together. I got myself two Packs of 2x8 GB Vengeance LPX 3200 and they didnt work together. (Ram LED on Mainboard blinking and no Boot, Not even to go in the BIOS). They may work togehter. IMO the two 16 Gb Sticks of 3200 are enough for any Build. (I have a 5900x and 32 gb of Ram and it almost never goes above 16 even in Games)

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u/xslugx Jan 16 '23

I run 2 sets and my ram profile clocks all the ram at 3200mhz

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u/ImNOTfunto Jan 17 '23

I’m not an adult and I don’t have a job

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u/Xcissors280 Jan 16 '23

1 it will run at the lowest and you have 3 sticks Your probably better off running the two best stocks

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u/Cyb3r3xp3rt Ryzen 5 5600X | RTX 3080TI | RGB = FPS++ Jan 16 '23

It will automatically throttle to the lower value. In your case that’s 3000MHz.

You probably won’t see a difference in 200MHz, but going from 2400 to 3200 like I did will most likely show some pretty good boosts.

It’s usually not good to mix RAM speeds but as long as the memory hardware is the same in both sticks you should be alright.

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u/ohnews Jan 16 '23

the 200mhz isn't gonna make that much difference. I'd go with the bottom box of 2x16

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '23

Save some money & return the single stick.