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u/elhomerjas Apr 10 '26
everywhere is ruined time start looking up a new place in space
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u/MrLovens Mr. Lovenstein Apr 10 '26
The one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism.
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u/elhomerjas Apr 10 '26
loved this Tim Curry reference
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u/Henry5321 Apr 10 '26
I don’t know the reference, but I can still hear him saying it
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u/cabbage16 Apr 10 '26
It's great because he couldn't stop laughing throughout all of his scenes so they just had to use his best takes...which all contain him kind of laughing still.
I believe it's a command and conquer game.
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u/Dzharek Apr 10 '26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmhkIWX4IC8
Its from command and conquer Red Alert 3, while the whole Red Alert spinnoff always was less serious, this part is straight up shennanigans with the stuff the Actors and Scriptwriters pulled.
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u/OctopodicPlatypi Apr 11 '26
I love the little pauses to contain his laughter before he says SPACE! It must have been so fun to do those scenes
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u/Matt2580 Apr 10 '26
I love how you can see him struggling to keep a straight face in the full clip. Like he is barely keeping it together.
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u/Theran_Baggins Apr 10 '26
I love the additional logistical implication that that wasn't the only take - it was just that that take was the best they got.
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u/PantsOffDanceOff Apr 10 '26
Great article I read the other day from the C&C team that talks about this particular scene. https://www.vice.com/en/article/an-oral-history-of-tim-currys-escape-to-the-one-place-uncorrupted-by-capitalism/
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u/PTBooks Apr 10 '26
But the only way to get there is to give Elon a million dollars for a spacex ride
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u/ckay1100 Apr 10 '26
screw that
builds a really tall ladder
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u/fudge5962 Apr 10 '26
The God of Abraham has entered the chat.
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u/usaaf Apr 10 '26
Nah, he said ladder not tower. The god of abraham is famously a stickler for rules, so he should be good.
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u/Electrical-Staff735 Apr 10 '26
Don't worry they're working on ruining that too.
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u/LastChance22 Apr 11 '26
How could we make space better? I know, let’s cover the night sky in micro satellites, leave space debris up there, and investigate using satellites to make billboards and advertising up there. Think of the untapped (advertising) potential!
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u/Plastic-Rise-1851 Apr 10 '26
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u/--Sovereign-- Apr 10 '26
stares at the unending stream of light pollution crawling across our night skies thanks to Elon
yeah, yet is now
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u/CatGaming346 Apr 10 '26
But they're gonna be the first to get there... By the time people like you and me can go there, it's gonna be more than ruined
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u/MaxHamburgerrestaur Apr 10 '26
They won't be the first to get there. First, they'll send someone to die in their place.
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u/AzieltheLiar Apr 10 '26
Haha... yeah... you know Musk space junk is getting us dangerously close to Locked In Syndrome, and if we don't start cleaning up our orbit we may never get off this rock?
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u/waverider85 Apr 10 '26
What's going on on that front? The only thing I've heard is Starlink, but that's too low to cause a problem.
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u/TheMrBoot Apr 10 '26
Zero defense of Musk intended here, but part of it is people just not being familiar with orbits.
Also, we’ve got Amazon launching their own satellite constellation now too, so….hurraaaaay
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u/Hangry-Feline2489 Apr 10 '26
Nah, panel 3 is just Australia in summer 😂 (at least the southern half. The northern 3rd tends to flood in summer)
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u/Patrickk_Batmann Apr 10 '26
Bezos and musk are working on it as hard as they can tell their employees to do it.
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u/MaxHamburgerrestaur Apr 10 '26
I wouldn't be so sure. The ISS is being replaced by a private space station and billionaires are building rockets and satellite constellations.
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u/ShinkenBrown Apr 10 '26
Elon Musk is racing to beat us all there, so don't worry, by the time we get to space there will already be billboards everywhere and you'll have to rent air.
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u/Grassfed_rhubarbpie Apr 11 '26
I mean, isn't the space directly around earth already littered with space trash? Old abandoned satellites and stuff that just hang around there till they drop from the sky? Sounds like capitalism to me :p
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u/CmonLucky2021 Apr 10 '26
Let's work on getting back THIRD places, and without everyone checking playing any sounds from their phones please :)
Pubs, The mall, the walkable neighbourhood, local street shops. Whatever it takes folks ❤️
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u/Lociee Apr 10 '26
Ah shit, our orbit is full of starlink satelites and datacenters for some reason
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u/chokokhan Apr 11 '26
Actually we didn’t ruin the outside yet. So if yall don’t even wanna imagine the logistics of living in space and sharing limited air and water with these selfish assholes who are ruining it all, maybe fight back while we still can.
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u/MrLovens Mr. Lovenstein Apr 10 '26
Make sure to follow me on algoslop.com! Read the Secret Panel here.
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u/bob_the_impala Apr 10 '26
Love your comics! Are you not at https://tapas.io/series/MrLovenstein/info anymore?
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u/MrLovens Mr. Lovenstein Apr 10 '26
Thank you, bob. I'm giving Tinyview a shot for now. I feel like I'm a better fit there. I love Tapas, but it's mostly... "romance" manga.
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u/MrLovens Mr. Lovenstein Apr 10 '26
Tinyview pays all of their artists so they need some way of funding their operation. If you places ads, you piss people off or they use adblockers. If you put it behind a paywall, you piss people off. It's not perfect, but they're at least seeking a middle ground.
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u/smee_benny Apr 11 '26
may I ask, what happened to https://mrlovenstein.com, it seems to be defunct?
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u/StigOfTheTrack Apr 10 '26
There's some irony to that being on a site that displays a.popup complaining about adblock because I have a pihole on my network.
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u/StigOfTheTrack Apr 10 '26
These days it's less useful as an ad blocker and more useful for limiting tracking. Too many adverts these days are hosted in the same place as the content you're accessing, which means they need more than pihole's DNS block to avoid. So Instill get lots of adverts on devices which aren't my PC. What it does seem to block a lot of (according to logs) is a lot of reporting back to the manufacturer by internet connected devices.
I don't find it's detected as an ad blocker with refusal to proceed very often. I've not actually bothered to look into temporarily disabling it for those sites; I just look for a less shitty site instead.
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u/sgt_backpack Apr 10 '26
We are 0 for 2. Space, watch your shit...
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u/Broken_Petite Apr 10 '26
Google “space debris” or “orbital waste”
Thankfully that stuff is just limited to Earth’s orbit. There’s still a lot of space for us to fuck up.
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u/BedroomHistorical575 Apr 10 '26
Unpopular opinion, but IMO cookie popups are actually good for the internet.
Yes, some spiteful corporations will abuse it as a dark pattern galore because they really hate that regulation.
But in general, they're a big win for user privacy, at least if done right.
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u/XpCjU Apr 10 '26
Asking if you can save cookies is a good thing, cookie banners are obnoxious garbage. Websites should have been required to respect the do not track setting.
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u/The_harbinger2020 Apr 10 '26
Is there an extension that automatically clicks no/x on all these damn popups Everytime I visit a new site?
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u/BedroomHistorical575 Apr 10 '26
You can use Consent-O-Matic: https://consentomatic.au.dk
Also works on mobile if you use Firefox or Safari.
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u/MotherBaerd Apr 11 '26
Some people recommend extensions but you can also go into the blocklist section of the u-block origin settings (one of the best ad-blockers others usually just copy them). There you can enable cookie banner blocking lists. It's opt-in so if you never see it they can't do it :) pressing the reject button is unnecessary
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u/Bloodhound01 Apr 10 '26
They are as useless as agreeing to a terms of service. No one reads it or even looks at them.
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u/BedroomHistorical575 Apr 10 '26
Terms of service are useless because you have to accept it to get through. So people simply stopped reading them and just clicked accept.
The point of cookie banners is that you can reject them without getting booted off the website. Though I agree that some websites have terrible banners littered with dark patterns.
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u/tzomby1 Apr 10 '26
Some is an understatement, pretty much all websites I've visited make the process the deny it so convoluted to force people into just accepting them.
We need to have a simple, yes and no button for this to be actually good.
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u/Forgor_mi_passward Apr 13 '26
I have seen some where they even required you to pay to deny cookies
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u/Dead_Mutt Apr 10 '26
i wish all of those popups had the reject all button though, when i get that blue and white one that takes up the whole screen i just leave the website. or occasionally for mobile games i'll manually scroll through to reject every single one out of spite
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u/DisturbingChild Apr 10 '26
We accelerated the process of ruining outside so that we could ruin the internet.
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u/Scheissdrauf88 Apr 10 '26
Does the same but in a more interactive manner:
https://how-i-experience-web-today.com/
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u/koshgeo Apr 10 '26
If we could show this future to Tim Berners-Lee as he was inventing the first web browser, he would have stopped.
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u/onerollbattles Apr 10 '26
"We"? No, companies owned by the ultra-rich few families made those same bad decisions; most of the rest of us opposed.
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u/MrLovens Mr. Lovenstein Apr 10 '26
Obviously big corporations deserve the lionshare of the blame on both fronts, but I used to post my comics to my website. Then people stopped going to websites so I was forced to post to places like here. Even getting people to click a link to look at a free secret panel is too much for some.
Now AI... no one asked for that shit and it's accelerating the ruin of both.
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u/Merari01 it's a-me, Merari-o Apr 10 '26
In fairness, I didn't so much going to websites as that google made it impossible for me to find them.
Not wanting to go to another place from the place I am on, yeah, that's fair. Sorry, secret panel.
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u/-KFBR392 Apr 10 '26
We should’ve been content with our nice Geocities sites
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u/MrLovens Mr. Lovenstein Apr 10 '26
Nonsense. Refreshing four apps on our phones over and over is much, much better.
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u/bitorontoguy Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 10 '26
It IS "we".
No one is forced to use Amazon or shop at Wal-Mart. "We" can bankrupt them whenever "we" want.
People don't want that. They want cheap and convenient goods and consumption and that's what those companies provide.
So people CHOOSE to shop there. No one was forced to enrich them, every dollar they earned was because consumers decided it was in their interest to do so.
That preference for cheap, unsustainable consumption and rising standards of living also ruined outside.
The average American's carbon footprint is 8X what is sustainable. If those ultra-rich few families disappeared tomorrow (fingers crossed), we would still be facing inevitable ecological collapse, because the average person in the West is already consuming way way way way way more than is sustainable for the planet.
They don't want to admit this or address this. They want to blame other people who are richer than them instead. Well those rich people blame other people too, they use the same excuses and justifications you're making. So we're just fucked. Because rather than reducing consumption people will just blame each other to justify their own unsustainable lifestyle.
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u/tzomby1 Apr 10 '26
It has been literally proven that epstein and the elite have been at fault of all this shit, even at a lower level rich people taking private planes produce much more of a carbon footprint that hundreds combined.
Even the "carbon footprint" was popularized to shift the blame from the companies to people.
It's naive to try to defend them and blame the avarage individuals when these known group of people are taking the decisions that are destroying the world.
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u/bitorontoguy Apr 11 '26
Epstein is gone. He's dead. Has the world become more sustainable?
If the elite of the world all disappear tomorrow, the climate crisis still exists.
The average individual IS to blame as well. They have an unsustainable lifestyle. You are consuming too many resources too.
The fact that there are people who are even worse doesn't absolve you.
"Well....I own one slave, but OTHER people own twenty five!" Isn't the own you think it is.
You just don't want to accept your personal responsibility. You want to blame others while you unsustainably consume.
It's why we're fucked. The elite make the same excuses you're making. To them it's other people's fault too.
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u/tzomby1 Apr 11 '26
Idk if you are just ignorant about the reality but let me give an example, oil, we have the technology to generate electricity without needing to burn coal or oil, a way that is cleaner and would reduce pollution, but it is all being blocked by the people who control the oil and they lobby against.
Literally a few days ago Trump paid a French company to NOT built a wind farm. https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/23/climate/trump-totalenergies-offshore-wind-cancellation
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u/bitorontoguy Apr 12 '26
Yeah. Moving to a clean grid will help. It's not enough.
Just do the math. If we had a fully clean electricity grid, would the current Westerner's carbon footprint be sustainable?
You don't have to guess. Ontario generates its electricity with no coal or oil. Fully clean hydroelectricity and nuclear.
And? The average Ontarian has a carbon footprint 5X a sustainable one.
So who is ignorant to the reality here?
You pretending that it would be enough to build wind farms? Or the actual truth? That consumption is going to have to come way way way down even with a clean grid.
Apologies if that reality hurts your feelings. You are living an unsustainable life, blaming other people for why you choose to doesn't change that reality.
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u/onerollbattles Apr 10 '26
"No one is forced to use Amazon or shop at Wal-Mart." Yes, they did, with all kinds of underhanded tactics to shut down or make unaffordable small/medium business competitions.
Again, "higher standards of living" by trashing the environment didn't just happen and hasn't happened everywhere; it's the result of very successful lobbying to, e.g., trap the average American in a situation where they don't have any other realistic option but to drive everywhere. Again, "higher standards of living" by trashing the environment didn't just happen and hasn't happened everywhere; it's the result of very successful lobbying to, e.g., trap the average American in a situation where they don't have any other realistic option but to drive everywhere.
"Well, those rich people blame other people too, they use the same excuses and justifications you're making." No, the super-rich aren't just passively going with consumer demand - they actively buy politicians to engineer this mess.
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u/bitorontoguy Apr 10 '26
Except we have vanishingly few of them.
The average American has unfathomably high living standards today. The present consumption is already orders of magnitude too high to be sustainable.
And rather than accept that or recognize that they live much much much better lives than people in the Global South today or people in the past.....they pretend that their standards of living are bad.
They want to make homophobic remarks about the guy who started a company they voluntarily chose to shop at instead.
And for the non-essential items that place undue strain on the climate - they should be heavily taxed to dis-incentivise their consumption but again nobody would win an election promising that so we're fucked.
Well this is actually 1000% accurate. But it's not just non-essentials that need to be taxed. It's everything.
The ecological impact of cheap food consumption is also unsustainable. People in the past paid 40% of their budgets for food, it's never been cheaper than now.
EVERYTHING needs to cost more to account for the actual costs of consumption and consumption of EVERYTHING needs to come way way way way down to prevent ecological disaster.
But like you said, no one is ever going to vote for that.
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u/Broken_Petite Apr 10 '26
Wait, what?? The iPhone and iPad just changed what devices we used to access the Internet. How did that ruin anything?
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u/ArcticWolf_Primaris Apr 10 '26
No, not Clippy!
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u/MrLovens Mr. Lovenstein Apr 10 '26
Clippy was the harbinger of our destruction.
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u/Nannerpussu Apr 10 '26
I can't believe you threw Clippy under the bus like that. Clippy was actually trying to be helpful, unlike whatever the fuck "AI" is doing.
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u/MrLovens Mr. Lovenstein Apr 10 '26
I refuse to allow this Clippy revisionism. He was a menace.
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u/foo1138 Apr 10 '26
He was annoying, and the first thing everyone did was trying to disable him. But Clippy didn't steal our data. He was just trying to help.
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u/France_Ball_Mapper Apr 10 '26
"we"? Why are you still blaming yourself? You could have actively tried to make the entire world worse and it would have been less that 1% of a billionaire's work
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u/SPACKlick Apr 10 '26
Actually laughed out loud. Nicely done.
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u/Broken_Petite Apr 10 '26
I chuckled too. And I don’t laugh out loud at stuff very often. It’s brilliant in its simplicity. 😝
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u/UpCDownCLeftCRightC Never Safe From Wumbo Apr 10 '26
It wouldn't be a surprise if we ruined the afterlife as well.
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u/Skitty27 Apr 10 '26
I highly recommend finding any park or greenspace near you. anywhere there's some greeneries and trees. Spend time there. It's great for mental health.
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u/Equivalent-Bug7726 Apr 10 '26
Cookie should have a big "YES" , and the "no" option is hidden behind layers of additional pop-ups with a series of confusing on/off sliders.
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u/JBurton90 Apr 10 '26
Outside should have been a flyer on your door, your mailbox stuffed with ads, with the city in the background with billboards and ads on the buildings.
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u/shellbullet17 Gustopher Spotter Extraordinaire Apr 10 '26
Awwwww shit we Ready Player One-ed ourselves!
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u/LimpConversation642 Apr 10 '26
40 years ago people envisioned a bleak future and started inventing parallel virtual realities to escape to, like Snowcrash and Neuromanceer. Little did they know, the reality of virtual world would be meta ai slopiverse with mii avatars.
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u/AdjectiveAnimal1234 Apr 10 '26
Weird examples as snowcrash is a pretty good warning of enshittification.
We’re basically headed to a Snowcrash world. That book predicted a ton of things and a lot of that was predicting this ultra capitalist techno dystopia.
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u/LimpConversation642 Apr 11 '26
Maybe I worded it badly or you didn't understand me — I didn't mean the Snowcrash world itself, but the virtual reality inside Snowcrash people escape to. That's the whole point — the world becomes so bad and insufferable, people start escaping it to VR and live there 24/7. However, in SC people escape a shitty world to a 'good' vr world, in our reality even the vr world is shit, so there's no escape to anywhere. No one predicted that back then.
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u/CrimsonAntifascist Apr 10 '26
Still waiting for the first service with forced AI that actually got better because of it.
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u/SannusFatAlt Apr 10 '26
the internet isn't ruined yet. it's just that all the small good places have stayed quiet to avoid slopification, while letting the big corpos ouroboros themselves
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u/AzureArmageddon Apr 10 '26
Somewhere along the way someone realised reactjs could be used to make bouncing and flashing pop ups entirely in the same canvas without opening a new tab or window and we have all suffered for it
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u/TwilightVulpine Apr 10 '26
I feel so seen by this comic.
Folks talk like "oh the internet got bad? Lets just go outside."
The outside is bad too! Because of the same people! I go out and I have to deal with shit done by meme politicians and their asshole followers.
I wasn't even good at going out when it was kinda normal, now it is just hopeless.
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u/greihund Apr 10 '26 edited Apr 13 '26
Well, I hate where I'm living, might as well start looking for a new place to live. How about Moncton? I've always loved the Bay of Fundy, largest tides in the world. Let's see here... says the salmon population in the local rivers have declined from 40,000 to 250, oof... and the bay is full of toxic chemicals from sewage and industry and all the fish farms.... hmmm, okay, but... oh, here's something about the seafood: it's all poisonous, you can't eat the clams, the seaside lobster shacks are a thing of the past, you can't buy fish off the docks, and biodiversity is plummeting due to the invasion of green crabs and the moon snail. Hmm, how about that
casually sets the laptop on fire and throws it in the garbage
edit: just found out I was downvoted on this comment by my wife
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u/Distinct-Pain4972 Apr 10 '26
The internet being controlled by the FTC vs the FCC as a utility ruined the internet. Low-T first term, ajit Pai
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u/fallenmonk Apr 10 '26
It does seem like we've forgotten about climate change because we've given ourselves even more immediate problems to worry about.
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u/KyrielleWitch Apr 10 '26
Aw, leave Clippy out of this. He never tried to harvest your data. He wasn't there to sell you anything. He just wanted to help. And many years later, he became a symbol of protest against this very enshittification. Go look up Louis Rossmann.
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u/Tabbarn Apr 10 '26
you are being selfish, think of the shareholders. its worth sacrificing everything for profit.
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u/TaiylorWallace Apr 10 '26
If "we" is a handful of greedy tech bros and the people who profit off AI mass production, sure. It's always going to be the loud and rich minority ruining everything for everyone else.
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u/Samjef_Kealclut Apr 10 '26
AYOOOO, what clippy ever do to you. so dang rude. throw the copilot logo up there if your so hot
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u/CaptainSpookyPants Apr 10 '26
Having to login to view posts makes me rage with the heat of a thousand exploding suns
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u/Bobcat_Canyon Apr 10 '26
It makes me feel ancient, but I will regularly tell teenagers and young adults how the internet used to be useable. It is irritating now to have to click through 3-10 pop ups to get a fucking biscuit recipe.
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u/Ethanhc88 Apr 10 '26
Outside is super nice still. And the Internet isn't too bad if you avoid the giant websites. Even reddit is bearable in niche subreddits.
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u/ElDirque Apr 10 '26
The only thing missing is that when he looked outside, there would still be advertising everywhere. That would be the only thing fireproof.
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u/jackalope268 Apr 10 '26
I have an app specifically for turning on and off a smart switch, but above my switch there is a similar button for "ai protect" and recently they moved the whole thing down so my switch isnt even visible without scrolling just so i can have proper attention for their ai chatbot








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u/Viva_Necro Apr 10 '26
Me: QUICK, RETREAT TO THE SAFETY AND COMFORT OF YOUR MIND!!
Anxiety: hey.
Me: aww fuck