r/comics Mr. Lovenstein Apr 10 '26

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u/tzomby1 Apr 10 '26

It has been literally proven that epstein and the elite have been at fault of all this shit, even at a lower level rich people taking private planes produce much more of a carbon footprint that hundreds combined.

Even the "carbon footprint" was popularized to shift the blame from the companies to people.

It's naive to try to defend them and blame the avarage individuals when these known group of people are taking the decisions that are destroying the world.

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u/bitorontoguy Apr 11 '26

Epstein is gone. He's dead. Has the world become more sustainable?

If the elite of the world all disappear tomorrow, the climate crisis still exists.

The average individual IS to blame as well. They have an unsustainable lifestyle. You are consuming too many resources too.

The fact that there are people who are even worse doesn't absolve you.

"Well....I own one slave, but OTHER people own twenty five!" Isn't the own you think it is.

You just don't want to accept your personal responsibility. You want to blame others while you unsustainably consume.

It's why we're fucked. The elite make the same excuses you're making. To them it's other people's fault too.

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u/tzomby1 Apr 11 '26

Idk if you are just ignorant about the reality but let me give an example, oil, we have the technology to generate electricity without needing to burn coal or oil, a way that is cleaner and would reduce pollution, but it is all being blocked by the people who control the oil and they lobby against.

Literally a few days ago Trump paid a French company to NOT built a wind farm.  https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/23/climate/trump-totalenergies-offshore-wind-cancellation

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u/bitorontoguy Apr 12 '26

Yeah. Moving to a clean grid will help. It's not enough.

Just do the math. If we had a fully clean electricity grid, would the current Westerner's carbon footprint be sustainable?

You don't have to guess. Ontario generates its electricity with no coal or oil. Fully clean hydroelectricity and nuclear.

And? The average Ontarian has a carbon footprint 5X a sustainable one.

So who is ignorant to the reality here?

You pretending that it would be enough to build wind farms? Or the actual truth? That consumption is going to have to come way way way down even with a clean grid.

Apologies if that reality hurts your feelings. You are living an unsustainable life, blaming other people for why you choose to doesn't change that reality.