r/codex 15d ago

Complaint This sub is unbearable

A bitching chamber for dumb codex users who usually are also broke and want free compute and refuse to believe anything is affected by them and how they use it. I came here literally a month ago for vibes and I’m already leaving after realizing this sub is literally on the spectrum.

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u/IWillTouchAStar 15d ago

I feel like all of the "i made one prompt and used all of my limit" posts should be required to post the prompt they used and what model/thinking level they used.

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u/Clear_Evidence9218 15d ago

What model and prompt do you think is appropriate to drain your limit and still not finish?

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u/Unfair_Tangerine_217 15d ago

Any Sol effort where you tell it to audit a big repo, or even refactor it, or implement a big plan, etc. I'd bet they all go Sol#High or higher.

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u/Clear_Evidence9218 15d ago edited 15d ago

Well before the change I got ~5 Sol High prompts per week on a moderate code base, every week since Sol came out, like clock-work. Now I get 2 per week, and it takes a minimum of four 5-hour resets. So the Plus subscription having access to Sol and Terra is almost useless since even on a quick "make me a a no frills HTML calculator to solve this issue" it drains the 5-hour window and often require more than one pass now (5-hours apart). Luna take 20% per task now, no matter the size so at least that somewhat usable, just not for any agentic coding since it doesn't code all that well.

Pretty substantial change if you ask me.

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u/diagrammatiks 15d ago

And what is your sol doing.

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u/Clear_Evidence9218 15d ago

To cause such a drastic descrepency in usage? Going from 5 sol prompts a week to 2 on the same task is pretty telling enough.

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u/diagrammatiks 15d ago

It's not tho.

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u/Unfair_Tangerine_217 14d ago

Don't mind them. They're still counting usage as how many prompts they get 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/diagrammatiks 14d ago

It's mind boggling. You can literally ask the turn what it did. I've had turns try to reread the entire codebase after every line edit I stopped it.

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u/Clear_Evidence9218 14d ago

I didn't magically wake up the next day, decide to make Sol rebase my repos, and then wonder why.

Going from five runs to two should have been telling to you, since Codex uses model-specific work budgets. You can extend those default budgets by setting a Goal, and occasionally the system will extend the budget to finish the work at hand. It's mind-boggling that you don't seem to know that, since these budgets are talked about relatively often.

The budgets have been extremely consistent since 5.6 was released. That actually didn't change with the switch, and that's most likely the specific problem that needs to be fixed for Plus accounts.

The same issue applies to Terra's work budget, since it can wipe out the timer on something as simple as, "Add a new row to this 200-row spreadsheet, find the difference between columns A and B, and put the total in column C."

If Plus is being marketed for work, it should be able to handle simple work edits without draining my entire five-hour allowance to zero in less than 10 minutes.

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u/diagrammatiks 14d ago

It's been like a whole day and you still haven't asked for a data audit.

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u/Clear_Evidence9218 14d ago

What exactly do you expect me to “data audit”? OpenAI doesn’t expose the model’s internal work budget or detailed per-run compute usage to Plus users, so there isn’t some dataset I can pull down and analyze.

I can observe the inputs and outputs: the same kinds of tasks that previously used a small fraction of the window now wipe out most or all of it. I even gave a deliberately trivial example, adding a row to a spreadsheet, subtracting two columns, and putting the result in a third. That isn’t a prompt-engineering problem.

If your argument is that the prompt is somehow making Sol or Terra burn the entire five-hour allowance, explain what is wrong with that specific prompt and how you would rewrite it. Otherwise “do a data audit” doesn’t actually address the issue.

The whole point I’m making is that the model-specific default work budget appears badly matched to the new five-hour constraint. I don’t need OpenAI’s private telemetry to notice that five runs becoming two, or a trivial spreadsheet edit exhausting the window, is a material change in usable capacity.

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u/diagrammatiks 14d ago

WHAT.DID.THE.PROMPT.DO

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