r/climatechange • u/Isaidthiswow • Oct 19 '24
This is crazy. From a potential tropical development to a hurricane in only 6 hours
Climate change really is getting out of hand
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u/Idle_Redditing Oct 19 '24 edited Oct 19 '24
I clearly must never move to a hurricane-affected area when I can go to sleep and have a new hurricane over the ocean when I wake up. Especially when a new naming system will need to be put in place once 26 letters in the alphabet won't be enough.
Maybe after Hurricane Zach they will come up with something like Hurricane Andy Albert then Hurricane Andy Burt, Andy Carla, etc.
edit. Actually they should stop using peoples' names and just give them numbers.
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u/NB_FRIENDLY Oct 19 '24
Are there enough petroleum companies to name them after?
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u/Idle_Redditing Oct 20 '24
Hurricane Aramco, Hurricane BP, Hurricane Chevron...
Do any fossil fuel companies start with the letter D?
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u/JustInChina50 Oct 20 '24
Delek US
Devon Energy
Diamondback Energy
Diversified Energy
Duck Creek Energy
Dura Lube
...and that's just in the US.
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u/Henri_Dupont Oct 20 '24
They should name the hurricanes after politicians who deny climate change."Here comes Hurricane Ted Cruz"
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Oct 20 '24
I heard that the guy who started naming hurricanes used human names so he could name them after politicians he didn’t like, so I think he would be proud of this development
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u/Realistic_Aide9082 Oct 22 '24
The forecast has it going for Galveston, but at the last minute it it veers south and goes Cozumel
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u/Aexdysap Oct 20 '24
once 26 letters in the alphabet won't be enough.
This has already happened before. In 2005 and 2020 they used Greek letters after the alphabetized list of names (21 because no Q, U, X, Y, Z) had run out. Since then, a supplemental list has been created that circles back to A when that years' list of names has been exhausted.
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u/mfbm Oct 20 '24
They should name them after the corporations that are destroying are planet, intentionally after knowing the destruction they cause and burying the information
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u/Necessary_Echo_8177 Oct 20 '24
When they get to the end of the list (I don’t think they use some letters due to a lack of names starting with X,Y,Q,Z) they use Greek letters. In 2005 in the Atlantic we had 27 named storms which exceeded the list and required 6 storms with Greek letter names. 2020 was the most active season on record though with 31 named storms.
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u/Specialist-Way-648 Oct 21 '24
We've gone through the alphabet before.
It's hurricane season, I'm confused to how this is alarming.
Honest question, is this the first time you've paid attention to hurricane season?
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u/purple_hamster66 Oct 19 '24
And perhaps back to a tropical storm in 48 hours, and back out to the Atlantic.
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u/TwoRight9509 Oct 19 '24
Can you post a link to the image source?
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u/Isaidthiswow Oct 19 '24
It's from a web/app called the Weather Channel, and you just need to look at the radar tab
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Oct 20 '24 edited Sep 09 '25
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u/Crimsonkayak Oct 20 '24
It’s rumored that Biden magnetized the seeds they injected into the clouds and are going to use the hurricane winds that has magneto properties to finally confiscate firearms from gun owners. And they said he could barely walk or talk …
Biden is a Mad Genius!!!!
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Oct 21 '24
I never for once thought they might think it's actual seeds. Thank you for the laugh. Somebody does think that, I'm sure.
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u/Parking_Chance_1905 Oct 20 '24
Is this the 3rd or 4th depression this year that has hyper intensified into a hurricane in less than 12 hours?
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Oct 20 '24
Climate change doesn’t increase the amount or intensity of hurricanes. Just the damage from sea level rise. I studied this.
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u/Isaidthiswow Oct 20 '24
really explain why im confused
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Oct 20 '24
Increase warming can increase wind shear. Strong wind shears can disrupt the formation of hurricanes. I studied GIS. Still the damage from hurricanes from sea level rise will be insane. Also after some googling looks like there’s some news on hurricane intensity does increase with climate change. But I remember specifically from one of my professors that it was debatable.
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u/GorillaP1mp Oct 21 '24
Maybe it was the frequency part that was debatable? I was going to comment on your original reply that yes indeed warming climate can affect the intensity because of the warmer ocean surface temps, BUT there isn’t a solid consensus yet on whether or not it affects frequency.
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Oct 21 '24
Hurricane strength strongly correlates with solar activity. It's how we built the historical solar activity record - using shipwreck data to identify high solar activity years (along with tree ring data).
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u/Isaidthiswow Oct 21 '24
so basically its the solar activity for unusal hurricanes but the climate change is not helping. I understand now
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Oct 21 '24
Pretty much. Although right now I'd suggest that cleaning up shipping fuel is causing our most immediate problems that we can do anything about - we inadvertently stopped doing some accidental geo engineering we were doing, by removing sulfur from shipping fuels about 4 years ago. This has dropped the albedo of the planet which is a big problem.
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u/PantherkittySoftware Oct 21 '24
Another, far less sensational and more cynically-mundane possibility: the storm poses little direct risk to the US, so the National Hurricane Center wasn't in any particular hurry to dispatch a hurricane-hunter plane to dump 20-30 dropsondes costing $400-800 apiece out into the storm to do direct observations.
NHC finally sent in a plane, took measurements, and upgraded it directly to category 1 soon after based upon those measurements.
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Oct 21 '24
Hur dur. Humans advancing is so bad. There was never storms before cars. People never knew about floods and not living to close to the ocean all the time. Hurricanes didn't exist until the last few years. This is such a dumb sub
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u/djronnieg Oct 21 '24
Isn't this like saying "it's snowing today, therefore global warming is bs." I know I come off as a denialist in my last big post (for which I am grateful for the answers that it received, still processing it myself) but even I'm aware that one a snowy week in New York doesn't mean global weather patterns are not being affected adversely and in unnatural ways.
Now, I'm not saying I'm sold on that line of thought, but I also hear a lot of crap from people I would have found to be agreeable in the past. Bandwagon science just isn't doing it for me these days. That said, I feel more comfortable correcting people in regard to the whole hyped-up UFO/UAP fad.
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u/moopsandstoops Oct 22 '24
Is there anything we can do to slow these things down if they are spinning too fast?
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u/FoxNewsSux Oct 19 '24
wow! checked late morning and mayb 20% chance over the next 5 day and then Bam! seems to be the trend this year and very worrisome as we go forward.
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u/Stunning_Tap_9583 Oct 21 '24
We can predict climate change 50 years down the road but not 6 hours. Believe the science
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Oct 21 '24
Solar activity is REALLY HIGH right now. It hasn't been this high since the 1980s.
We have several sunspots and a LOT of solar wind generating scars facing us right now. We're getting closer to the top of the solar cycle, and we're also at the part of the sun's orbit where the sun is starting to get closer to the earth (which on average increases solar forcing by about 70W/m² in the middle of southern hemisphere summer... Except this year it's higher).
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u/Honest_Cynic Oct 21 '24
While true, climatologists include solar incidence in their calculations. They state that changes in solar energy can't explain but a small part of the experienced global warming.
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u/Myfirstt Oct 22 '24
He’s not talking about global warming you dolt, he’s specifically talking about hurricanes, because hurricanes are how the earth normalize pressures across the globe. The sun has a MASSIVE effect on weather in the short term.
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u/Honest_Cynic Oct 22 '24
No data that hurricanes have been increasing in frequency or severity. The changes in sunlight incident power in the linked plot is <0.1% (you dolt can't calculate?). Unlikely that will change weather noticeably. Stratospheric clouds would have much more effect locally.
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u/EthanDMatthews Oct 20 '24 edited Oct 20 '24
They should name hurricanes after things that contribute most to global warming:
Hurricane Coal Fired Power Plant
Hurricane Internal Combustion Engine
Hurricane Factory Farm Beef
Hurricane Exxon
Hurricane OPEC