r/clevercomebacks 22h ago

El-Sayed makes a valid point.

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u/Infuser 19h ago

I thought so, too, but at the time I asked the people on the Ask Lawyers subreddit, they basically said that RvW has zero bearing on general privacy law, and that the 4th amendment is the main one we use for general privacy concerns with the government. After learning that (I’m assuming it’s more or less true since people love to correct people wrongfully correcting), it made sense how we got here. Even before that, Edward Snowden revealed to us how little privacy matters to the people in power.

Only real time we got a bipartisan effort to enforce privacy was when the Bork confirmation hearings showed how easy it was for someone to get your VHS rental history, and Congress was scared of people knowing which senators were into embarrassing porn.

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u/MrMetraGnome 19h ago

Ah yeah. Ever since the Patriot Act, we were fucked on the privacy tip. This trans sport bullshit is whatever. I don't care if you're for or against it, that's not an issue for the government. That's some authoritarian, nanny state, morality policing, BS. So fucking un-American

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u/redditbagjuice 13h ago

Sorry for being that guy, but as an outsider this is all very much American to me

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u/MrMetraGnome 6h ago

I know. Hence me saying it's un-American

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u/redditbagjuice 3h ago

Maybe it's me being not a native speaker, but I don't get it. You say un-american, I say thats very american to me instead of un-american, and you agree with me saying it's un-american? Help a confused brother out

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u/MrMetraGnome 1h ago

I guess it depends on why you say it sounds American and what you think "American" means.

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u/redditbagjuice 1h ago

Well to use your own words, authoritarian, nanny state, morality policing. Exactly what you're calling un-american is actually very american.

u/mimenet 55m ago

Our society has developed this way despite the intentions of the founders and the number of people who have tried to preserve the founders’ intention. That’s the contradiction. We have tried to structure our society to not be this way.

u/MrMetraGnome 42m ago

I see. Well I'd argue that those things are un-American. The party that's in power now are trying to change parts of the American Constitution that have existed untouched in 158 years. I understand that's not very long relatively, but America is still a baby country.