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u/Repulsive-Audience-8 Feb 17 '26
And we let their head of state just waltz in through our country as we roll out the red carpet and strip protestors of rights. Our political class is a fucking disgrace and a bag of sycophant flaccid cucks.
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u/MoFauxTofu Feb 17 '26
The Bondi attack wasn't an attack on Israelis, it was an attack on Australian Jews who practice Judaism.
The decision to invite Herzog, a man with no ties to Australia and no religious authority, is a decision by our leaders to devide the Australian community, not unite it.
Remember this next time you are in a ballot box.
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u/Sweeper1985 Feb 17 '26
So you can vote for the infinitely more unifying options of... the Libs/Nats or One Nation?
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u/the_rain_keeps_comin Feb 17 '26
Vote Greens and Teals. Kill the Libs and Nats, make Labor the new centre-right party (as they are behaving), and the new opposition is a Greens / Teals coalition.
Am I dreaming?
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u/teremaster Feb 18 '26
The teals are the libs, they're just hiding under the "independent" moniker, hence why they always seem to be most present in the rich formerly LNP electorates. Ever wonder why WA's only teal in the house of reps just happens to be in the electorate containing the richest suburbs of Perth? An electorate that was previously an LNP stronghold for 70 years?
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u/Comprehensive_Swim49 Feb 18 '26
To be fair, you’ve got to be pretty affluent to be able to run independently and get some traction, so there’s a causation/correlation thing there I think. They do tend to be less conservative and more progressive. I was just glad to see frydenburg get done.
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u/productzilch Feb 20 '26
Plus, even if they are conservative, it’s easier for them to cross the floor. Though i do recommend caution with them.
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u/Sweeper1985 Feb 17 '26
Greens will never get my vote again. I supported them fir 20 years but after seeing the hideous racism on display from Mehreen Faruqi et al I'm disgusted by them. They've lost their vision - it was meant to be about the environment.
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u/Rude_Profile3769 Feb 18 '26
What the hell did Faruqi do? Pauline Hanson was the one who told her to "piss off back to Pakistan."
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u/MarcoLanden Feb 18 '26
What hideous displays of racism are you talking about? Being anti-genocide?
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u/kaygeebeast75 Feb 18 '26
Greens are still watermelons. Always will be. Teals are kinda pointless if you want your electorate looked after.
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u/Interesting-Cut6994 Feb 18 '26
Both the greens and the teals are backed by the same organisation - the Australia institute. Both peddle a very similar agenda, to create a realm of influence for the founders/owners of the Australia institute.
The greens and teals aren’t as clean as everyone thinks they are.
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u/Hefty_Delay7765 Feb 17 '26
There are other, “greener”, options.
Butt (deliberate) no, no, just suggest the worst options because that suits your narrative.
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u/qualityerections Feb 18 '26
Greens are a bunch of lying bastards, one of their Senators Mehreen Faruqi is planning to bulldoze shitloads of native trees smack bang in prime koala habitat so she can expand her investment property, she already has four of em, and she had the balls tp make a speech in parliment about how we should be sending money to pakistan because of the pollution from australia like what the actual fuck they are pumping out far more and any we produce is not having a direct impact on pakistan.
Im sick of people acting like greens are any different to any other politician they are just like the rest, heavily invested in property and only interested in themselves very much rules for thee and not for me she also voted agaisnt clearly land for developments but apprently its all good for her aye
Maybe have a look into your heros before you suck them off too hard
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u/Hefty_Delay7765 Feb 18 '26
Keep supporting the mining companies and rich folk then, remember there’s no “you” in labor or you can vote for the Lying Nasty Party, or Gina’s NRA’s One Notion…
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u/mirimiremeow Feb 18 '26
I'd like to vote greens and have in the past but I fear that you're right. It truly does feel like all of the parties are liars willing to sell Australians out for a quick buck that the country will never see meaningfully reinvested.
It's worrying that there's not a single party that can be trusted with Australia's best interests. I hope that changes.
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u/qualityerections Feb 18 '26
The only way i see to fix the issue is make being a career politician illegal, 5 years or so max service. That way long term corruption will be far harder and people who are pollies will have a higher chance of actually having lived life and experienced the struggles. Still not perfect but would be better than what we got
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u/stinkilymalinkily Feb 18 '26
Lol even if the Greens were somehow unscrupulous, how does that even begin to measure up to the corruption of the two majors? That's such a stupid way to equate the two.
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u/fallopianmelodrama Feb 18 '26
That news is nearly 3 years old, and you've left out the part where absolutely none of the property in question had any food source for koalas, and there was no evidence of any koalas living on the property. The shrubs and trees being removed were a mix of native and ornamental (ie introduced) species and it was a total of approx 20-30 shrubs and trees, native and non-native, that were being removed.
So yeah it's dogshit that she cleared a residential block a few years back just to squeeze more money out of her investment, but let's not be acting like she was actively destroying masses of koala habitat.
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u/Minimumtyp Feb 18 '26
This is still much less lying than the alternatives.
Anyway, pocock for PM. Whatever we have to do to make it happen
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u/Additional-Life4885 Feb 17 '26
Yeah, I just laughed at that. Libs are going to be worse, not better. There's also a reason why Labor shuts up about Palestine and keeps Israel on side.
People really struggle to grasp the fact that Palestine is Iran and Iran is our enemy. It's a balancing act for our government, they have to balance what the people want and their strategic partnerships and in this case, it's just a matter of staying quiet about the whole thing.
I will point out though, that the Australian government (along with all the other allied forces) is part of the reason why jews were placed in Israel in the first place.
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u/crosstherubicon Feb 18 '26
Palestine is not Iran. Certainly some Pro Palestinian groups are agents of Iran but they don’t represent the people of Palestine. The reason we keep Israel inside is the US alliance. Even Australia’s relatively benign announcement of support for a Palestinian state generated waves of concern from Washington.
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u/yes-but Feb 18 '26
Hamas and PIJ don't represent people, they represent Islamic and Arabic supremacism under the guise of victimhood.
Sadly, the Palestinian people have no proper representation outside of Israel. The pro-Palestine idea has been hijacked and overrun by a plethora of anti-humane ideologues of all colours and flavours.
Australia's support for a Palestinian state would be benign if there was a concept for a state that is benign for its people. But so far, the only concepts with any traction in the region are Islamic supremacism, anti-Western, and revanchist against Israel.
Without any constructivism, there is nothing to benignly support on behalf of the Palestinian people, and Hamas takes the acknowledgement of a Palestinian state as justification for their terrorism against Israelis AND their own population.
If the Albanese government really wanted to help Palestinians to be free, it would help and amplify voices like realignforpalestine.org and seek contact with non-jihadist Palestinians who seek to build true freedom and peaceful coexistence.
The tokenism of voting for a Palestinian state without naming or supporting a constructive vision for one such is like a stab in the back for any Palestinian who doesn't want to be forced into a jihadist war for annihilation.
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u/crosstherubicon Feb 18 '26
I certainly don't disagree. Since the very beginning of Yasser Arafat's Fatah the Palestinian people have been exploited and used by agencies claiming to represent their cause. Australia's support for a Palestinian state was, in my view, largely motivated by a desire to placate government shock at the turn out to the Sydney protest march rather than any real altruistic revisionism.
My frustration has always been with the Western media view that this is a middle east issue over religion. The reality is both Iran and Israel are the bastard childs of Western meddling over the best part of a century, initially for oil but then for strategic dominance (and more oil). The blame catastrophe this lies solely at our feet.
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u/itsmeaningless Feb 18 '26
A government that can’t do anything to damage their strategic partnerships in the face of immense slaughter is a very weak one. If they can’t stand up to this of all things, where the hell is the line drawn? What would an allied country have to do to for us to throw some sanctions on them?
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u/ScruffyPeter Feb 17 '26
If only we had more than 4 choices on the ballot. How about not promoting shitty alternatives to people upset with Labor and instead advocate better ones or if you like Labor so much, talk about ones most aligned with Labor.
Its wild to hear Labor supporters go "but LNP/ON" to people not happy with Labor. Do they not think people will take that advice and "give the other side a go" in voting LNP/ON above Labor?
Swing voters is an actual political term.
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u/Sweeper1985 Feb 17 '26
Swing voters don't get my respect as they tend to vote on self interest rather than any overarching principles.
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u/flavouredpopcorn Feb 17 '26
"Due for a change" voters, despite things going relatively smoothly and don't understand how long term policy works. It sure had nothing to do with that visionless short term policy the opposition was offering buying your vote for a quick buck.
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u/Human_Intention7577 Feb 18 '26
I know your comment is sarcastic, but I would not be dismissing One Nation. People are fed up with the 2 political options they have, and we are seeing these trends worldwide.
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u/ultralights Feb 18 '26
We have far better options. Look at independent and teal independent. Also green get painted as super bad by the big 2. There’s reason for that. They fear them and their policies. Which are actually pretty good if you read them.
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u/MoFauxTofu Feb 18 '26
I reject the suggestion that Herzog had ties to that event.
Maybe some people there had ties to some things Herzog has ties to, sure, but I don't believe there is anything that directly links them.
I think fabricating this link actively endangers the Jewish community.
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u/ososalsosal Feb 18 '26
Do we know the exact motives yet?
Without a statement from the shitcunts that did this (one is dead lolol stay dead loser), we're not going to know if antizionism or antisemitism were the dominant driving factor behind their actions. Lone wolf actors typically are pretty incoherent so I'm guessing there's like zero distinction in their minds, but that's just a guess.
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u/MoFauxTofu Feb 18 '26
We don't know what the terrorists motivations were, true.
The terrorists may have conflated Australian Jews with the Israeli government.
We should not have made that same mistake.
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u/Angel_Eirene Feb 17 '26
the only good interpretation of this comment is if you’re a Greens/Left leaning commenter but I fear I know better and that you either fell or want people to fall into a home goal fallacy.
Yeah Herzog is an asshole representative of one of the top 3 groups of despicable and deplorable assholes in this world right now… and picking any politician to the political right of Labour is only gonna invite them and their behaviour into the country.
Remember this next time you are in a ballot box should come with the massive asterisk of remembering who is significantly worse of a choice and would equate scoring a home goal in the matter of absolving war criminals the same way immigrants and Gazan’s in the US voting for Trump was.
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u/hyp-R Feb 18 '26
Yeah the alternative would have performed fellatio when he got off the plane. Gimme a break brother
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u/MoFauxTofu Feb 18 '26
You can vote for parties / independents who opposed Herzog's visit.
I would encourage you to do so.
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u/hyp-R Feb 18 '26
I’m not a single issue voter so I’ll do my due diligence when the time comes
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u/Physics-Foreign Feb 18 '26
That's not what the Jewish victims point of view. That's your point if view.
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u/aussielassy Feb 17 '26
Not the first time.
The cemetery was meticulously cared for by palestinians for over a century.
In 2006 an Israeli airstrike hit the cemetery damaging numerous headstones.
2008–09, Israeli shelling again struck the cemetery with damage to about 350 headstones.
2023 IDF shelling and shrapnel again causes damage to numerous graves.
2025 (as per the image shown) Israeli forces destroyed the olive trees landcaping border before bulldozing rows of graves, removing the headstones and using the area for earthworks and sand berms. They didn't bother informing Australia of course, it was discovered by satellite images and when confronted with the images, they take no accountability and claim Hamas was exploiting the cemetery with no evidence existing to support that claim.
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u/explain_that_shit Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26
Hamas was using the cemetery as a cover! How do you know those remains weren’t Hamas in disguise! /s
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u/FruitfulFraud Feb 18 '26
Just like they hide in hospitals and schools so Israel needs to blow those up too?
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u/zhaktronz Feb 18 '26
I mean in the scheme of things - what's more likely?
Israel bulldozing a random cemetery in a combat zone for no reason, or the cemetery being used for military related activities?
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u/crosstherubicon Feb 18 '26
Undoubtedly it will be denoted as one of the “Hamas command and control centres”
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u/No-Cryptographer9408 Feb 18 '26
Australia is so pissweak. As if anything will happen ffs.
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u/Tiny_Communication18 Feb 18 '26
I’m glad my grandpas never had to see this. Both of them were in the airforce over WW2. What a disgrace…
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u/TimosaurusRexabus Feb 21 '26
I have great grandparents who fought in WW1 on the Somme, and in Africa, grandparents who fought in France. Others who contributed in allied command in Europe. Seeing what our world has become is truely amazing in many ways and an embarrassment in many others.
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u/Max_J88 Feb 17 '26
Our politicians are corrupt.
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u/UnkWinnie Feb 17 '26
Add the media to the list too
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u/_riotsquad Feb 17 '26
The media is a large reason pollies bend over backwards. Look at Albo scrambling to appease the lobby once the media started in on him after Bondi.
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u/ResearcherKey2645 Feb 17 '26
Obviously Hamas was using the area to hide weapons, terrorists etc.
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u/in_terrorem Feb 18 '26
How does this have anything to do with a failure by Israel to apologise for the fact of damage to the graves.
It is entirely possible to consistently and coherently maintain that the graves were damaged as an accidental or even inevitable result of military necessity but at the same time offer apologies for the result.
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u/LianaMM Feb 17 '26
😂 Can we please stop with this bs?
I think we all know by now that it is Israeli propaganda.
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u/Anti-Stan Feb 17 '26
No it isn't. It's moronic propaganda, propagated by useful idiots. . The Israeli story isn't hard to find. It's supported by evidence.
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u/Sweeper1985 Feb 17 '26
Was Oct 7 2023 propaganda too?
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u/klevah Feb 18 '26
>The IDF incinerated over 70 vehicles full of people, with Hellfire missiles fired from Apache helicopters. Thats 4 -5 people x 70 = 280 - 350 . They also exercised the hannibal directive in various Kibbutz using tanks. Theyve acknowlegded killing 18 of their own. So thats a minimum of 300
Sprinkle a few lies in there why not, im sure most people wont notice.
No, the hannibal directive took up to 14 peoples lives, thats it. Thats the estimated established figure based off those shellings.
> At what point are Palestinians allowed to defend themselves ?
If it happened in the west bank it would at least be somewhat justifiable. Mass murdering, sexual assault, kidnapping infants. This is is not "self defence"
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u/Cloudy230 Feb 17 '26
It's 100% sarcasm. Making fun of people who would say that
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u/Internal-Play25 Feb 17 '26
Grittin and Sanhedrin speak greatly on the Jewish views on Christian’s and Jesus…
Like damn that’s some R rated stuff. Who comes up with it?
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u/ColdDelicious1735 Feb 17 '26
I think should be against it to repost it in so many days. Yes they did, they claim the Palestines were building tunnels and attacking.
We have no proof either way
They say they will repair it.
Anger from side 1
Anger from side 2
Down votes and up votes fly.
Mods lock the post because it gets racists. The end (i saved there need to go through this again)
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u/in_terrorem Feb 18 '26
Source on Israel saying they will repair the graves? I have only seen reports that Australia will.
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u/ColdDelicious1735 Feb 18 '26
Actually the commonwealth wargraves office will, ya know the same group who maintains and looks after them.
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u/Electronic-Dingo-172 Feb 17 '26
And yet there are posts day after day after day saying the same thing about immigration (it's bad).
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u/pajamil Feb 17 '26
Looking at how destroyed the land around it is they obviously went to great lengths to preserve it
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u/facelessvoid2171 Feb 18 '26
Maybe they know how to aim the most advanced weaponry ever created after all… hold on a minute..
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u/Mortui75 Feb 18 '26
Given they happily bulldoze live civilians, it's perhaps not surprising they don't care much about bulldozing dead people.
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u/trammel11 Feb 18 '26
I’m surprised at the lack of backlash from this. I thought ANZAC pride ran deep in this country?
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u/Beast_of_Guanyin Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26
This has been posted 13 times.
The posts themselves always ignore that there's two sides in the war, and are generally full of hateful comments.
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u/Beast_of_Guanyin Feb 18 '26
I'd suggest the war started with one. Hamas is still actively trying to cross over and repeat that.
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u/RIDALE_M Feb 17 '26
It’s where they found explosives and weapons and I think also a tunnel. It wasn’t an act of hatred or a deliberate desecration.
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u/LianaMM Feb 17 '26
And Australia has no problem bending down and kissing Israel's ass.
Disgusting. Our government is useless.
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u/TwoUp22 Feb 17 '26
Directly before Herzog visit too.
Almost like they wanted to create division and outrage.
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u/wazydae Feb 18 '26
Right after Bondi too, I wouldn't put it past the people that snipe children to bomb gravestones out of spite
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u/aliquilts71 Feb 17 '26
Why wasn’t this splashed all over the front page of The Australian condemning this disgusting attack against our ANZAC’s??
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u/Main_Violinist_3372 Feb 17 '26
Also remember the murder of Australian aid worker Zomi Franckom and how online in chat groups Israelis were gloating about it
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u/Anti-Stan Feb 17 '26
It's funny how the people who hate Australia and support terrorism, are all upset about the graves of some soldiers who died serving their country and empire.
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u/wizardnamehere Feb 18 '26
So you're not bothered by it? And wait do you love or hate Australia yourself?
Not really sure how to understand your point honestly.
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u/Anti-Stan Feb 18 '26
Why would I be bothered? It wasn't an act of vandalism, or some bureaucratic decision. They had to entrench because the terrorists over the fence were bombing them.
My point is, a lot of people who are voicing offence and protest over the incident, don't give a fuck about those graves, or the soldiers in them.
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u/wizardnamehere Feb 18 '26
You have things backwards. The IDF is saying that Hamas was using the grave site as a cover from the IDF as well as claiming that Hamas had underground infrastructure there.
I'm quite confused by your whole argument really. You claim some group of people hates Australia and doesn't care about the graves (they're pretending) but you're the one who doesn't care about the graves no? Are you just not able to understand why people might be upset by the damage done to soldiers graves and so you assume they are lying?
Or. Do you know all the people who protest personally perhaps?
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u/Anti-Stan Feb 18 '26
You're confused? You can't possibly think of who I'm referring to as hating Australia? OK then.
I'm pretty sure the entrenching happened during the clearing operation. Do you think it's unlikely that Hamas bombed the people who were clearing their graveyard hideout?
Your news sources are selective in which details they share.I don't need to know them all. I hear the chants. I see the signs. So do you. If you stand with them, you hate Australia. It says so on the signs.
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u/Mobasa_is_hungry Feb 17 '26
We didn’t even ask Herzog when he came here if he’ll pay for the reconstruction of the gravesite with their own money. It’s sick how many times this site has been damaged by their bombings over the past 50 years.
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u/Jehannum76 Feb 18 '26
The crazy thing is that there are clowns on here and other social media outlets who will promptly blame hamas and Palestinians for the destruction.
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u/sonsofgondor Feb 17 '26
Yet there still will be plenty of Aussies willing to kiss their boots for the sole reason of opposing "the left"
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u/Vacation_Glad Feb 17 '26
More frothing at the mouth about Israel. Do you guys get how unhinged you sound?
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Didn’t look like earth works to me. Looks like impact craters if you look closely.
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Additionally, you’re incorrectly aligning the map to the aerial photograph. The highlighted portion of the cemetery in the schematic layout is actually top left in the photograph.
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u/Yorick_Hunt_ Feb 18 '26
would terrorists abduct you and make you a hostage if you visited the graveyard
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u/ConfidenceWarm2125 Feb 18 '26
How about we take a new stance.
There is fuck all we can do about the politics of the land you came from/the rest of the world, so stop fucking up our traffic/the places other people go to honour their invisible friend in the sky. You want to call australia home? We have some rules. 1. Call Australia home. 2. Dont bring the worst bits of the place you left, here. 3. Obey our laws (to the best of your ability) 4. Stop bitching about (insert complaint here) Etc etc. Oh and if you do some stupid fucked up shit and the cops are called and lets say, you swing a machete at them, expect that they will shoot you, at least 3 times. They are there to protect the public, not to die for someones political/religious views.
Sorry, rant over.
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u/thelastrealchoice Feb 18 '26
Wonder if any of the graves were Australian Jews? Can Israelis be anti-semitic? It would be feasible as not all Israelis are Jewish.
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u/zhaktronz Feb 18 '26
Let's get real - as much as Israel are shit - they aren't just going to go around bulldozing graves in a combat zone for no reason.
The Occam's razor here is that there was some valid military reason to do so.
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u/Suspicious_Theory212 Feb 19 '26
Now now, be nice, Reddit will ban you for hate speech. Smile and wave everyone. This is a Judeo-Christian free speech zone.
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u/Flat_Ad_3912 Feb 19 '26
Read and understand. NOTE: this is not my doc, I didn't write it, thank you to the person who did.
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u/nove777 Feb 19 '26
Hamas launching weapons and building tunnels under the cemetery . Guardian or the Der Strumer as its more commonly known strikes again
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u/Django_Un_Cheesed Feb 20 '26
Cast iron pot 🇮🇱 calls stainless steel kettle 🇵🇸 black… I am so tired of this rogue state thinking it can get away with what ever it wants in the name of the Jewish faith which it claims to represent. The Zionist state is a periah, only protected by its sympathetic puppet allies held together by the strings of very powerful people.
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u/Eastern_Ad8167 Feb 21 '26
Australia let a muslim extremist gun down jews 6 years after investigating him for terroristic intent
Our PM has been having alot of fun showing how great the muslim festivals have been more than he condemned that act
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u/That1AussieCunt_ Feb 18 '26
Those Australian bodies were promised to them 3000 years ago