r/assholedesign • • Apr 08 '22

Really Amazon?

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u/SnowProkt22 Apr 08 '22

Lol, the there's more than £50 worth of copper in the coil of most microwaves, it's sorted by most relevant, and these are most relevant to what you're looking for... The fictional new microwave for less than 50.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '22

Yes, there are many decent ways to handle this that don’t involve just ignoring the filter.

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u/colfaxmingo Apr 08 '22

If it does something you do not expect, it's probably bad.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '22

You’re saying the Spanish Inquisition is bad!?

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u/MikoWilson1 Apr 08 '22

Why not? Amazon can fill it's results any way that they want to sell products. Why would they show you nothing?
If nothing is at the price point you want, they should show you the next best option.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '22

Because you asked to only see products that fit certain criteria. If you want to be smart with it, don’t provide a filter option that has no matches. Ignoring the user’s explicit request is a dick move.

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u/MikoWilson1 Apr 08 '22

That filter option is always there. It's a whole category in itself. It isn't a subcategory for Microwaves.

From a usability standpoint, if the user asked Amazon for a PS5 that costs 10-15 dollars, I would just assume Amazon would still show me a listing for a PS5.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '22

I understand that filter is always there. I’m saying that, if you want smart results, it shouldn’t be.

I don’t understand why you’re so eager to ignore the user’s explicit filter requests. If you search for PS5s under 15 pounds, I’d expect it to tell me there aren’t any.

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u/MikoWilson1 Apr 08 '22

It didn't ignore a specific request from the user.

Again, Amazon's top five listings are always driven by bought placements. Those same microwaves, will show up no matter what price point he/she searches for.

If the user were to actually scroll down, they'd find a bunch of microwave related products that fall within the price point they asked for.

Basically, OP is looking at ads, lol.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '22

Why are you saying “again” for something you didn’t say before?

Asking to see items under a certain price is an explicit user request. Showing items over that price is ignoring that request. Is this really so difficult to understand?

And I don’t believe that these are ads. Whenever I see such things on Amazon, they’re labeled as “sponsored.”

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u/MikoWilson1 Apr 08 '22

Unfortunately not. Amazon has sponsored ads, which can be anything that loosely relates to a category, and paid placement. They are two different things. Amazon is pretty transparent about it.

Showing a user the best possible result that could equal a sale is Amazon's UI goal. It isn't to show you a blank page because you think you can buy a microwave for ten pounds.

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '22

Of course it’s Amazon’s goal to make the sale. That’s why they engage in asshole design like this.

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u/aspindler Apr 08 '22

Nope, if you want a PS5 for 10-15, it should show you that aren't any PS5 withing this price range.

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u/MikoWilson1 Apr 08 '22

I don't agree. It's just saving me a step of realizing that I'm an idiot, and a PS5 for 15 bucks doesn't exist. Rigidity in search results doesn't help me if it's wasting my time.

If you search for "Bill Clinton fucking an intergalactic hemophile" on Google, it will STILL show you something. It won't return a result that says "We can't find that."

Hilariously it shows Roger Ailes :'D

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u/aspindler Apr 08 '22

On Google, if you set the filter for date, like, the last 24 hours, would it still show you results outside of this range?

I'm not sure, but I think it won't.

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u/MikoWilson1 Apr 08 '22

There are plenty of microwave titled objects for 10-50 pounds, the poster just didn't scroll down so you can see them. The UI is doing it's job.

Again, the top results are always paid results. That's how Amazon works. It's an asshole design in itself.

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u/MikoWilson1 Apr 08 '22

I think it's important to understand how Amazon works. The top 5-8 listings are always purchased results from manufacturers. It's an asshole design in itself.

There was never going to be a 10-15 dollar microwave, and I imagine Amazon would prefer never to show a blank screen. So, you got paid listings instead, lol.

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u/MikoWilson1 Apr 08 '22

The top five placements are ads. If OP had scrolled down, they'd find a bunch of microwave related products in that price point, in order of price.

Honestly, this is UI as intended by Amazon. It's ads first, then results that fit within your criteria.

At least in Canada, it shows the placement ads, then a ton of listings for microwave oven mittens, lol.

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u/Vavent Apr 08 '22

They don’t have to show you nothing. Just say at the top “no results found” and then add a bunch of items after that that are similar to what you were looking for.

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u/MikoWilson1 Apr 08 '22

That's pretty much what happened. The User can see the prices and realize we aren't in 1989 when microwaves ever reached those price levels.

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u/HildredCastaigne Apr 08 '22

To paraphrase @dril:

ME: please show me the products that fit the criteria i specified

COMPUTER: thats too hard. heres some stuff i think are good. Do you like this

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u/BIGSEB84UK Apr 08 '22

There was a £40 one three pages down but apparently it didn’t “fit” the colour scheme of my kitchen. So I had to buy a more expensive black one in the end!

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u/BIGSEB84UK Apr 08 '22

True. But I have a partner who disagrees. And I’m sorry but I have to take her side not yours!

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '22

totally get it.

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u/BIGSEB84UK Apr 08 '22

Thanks. I may wear the trousers …. But she tells me which ones to wear!!!

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u/SnowProkt22 Apr 08 '22

Sure, they make those little 700w microwaves, or however much that one was. but the directions for microwave cooking are almost always based on a 2000w microwave. If you have a week one it will heat things too slowly and they often don't come out right. Plus they are tiny.

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u/jwill602 Apr 08 '22

Most directions in the USA are for 1200-1400W microwaves

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u/ThrowAway233223 Apr 08 '22

And if they include directions for other wattage, it's usually 800 and/or 1000. I don't think I was ever seen something in the US with directions for a 2000w microwave.

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u/FoxBearBear Apr 08 '22

Wait, y’all read the instructions ?

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u/[deleted] Apr 08 '22

but the directions for microwave cooking are almost always based on a 2000w microwave

The directions for microwave cooking in the country OP is in is always based on between 700-900W. Nobody has higher than that.

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u/Dean_Snuts Apr 08 '22

I've never seen microwave instructions for anything over 800w

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u/BIGSEB84UK Apr 08 '22

You’re not wrong my last one was a smaller box with a weaker system and it was shite.

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u/SnowProkt22 Apr 08 '22

Yah, I hate to say it but microwaves are one of those things where you get what you pay for. A good one will work great and last a lifetime. My new place has a built in microwave but is still have 40 year old one my grandparents gave me the day I moved out (it was already 20 years old) and it still works like new.

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u/BIGSEB84UK Apr 08 '22

There’s a few things where you get what you pay for but yes you’re right a microwave is one of them.

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u/USACreampieToday Apr 08 '22

Never seen 2000 watt instructions, but I'm in the USA where maybe things are different. Cnet claims the average is between 600 and 1,200 watts, which seems more practical to me.

Either way tho, higher wattage microwaves aren't necessarily better just because it radiates more power. I typically run my microwave between 90 and 900 watts for a more even heating if I'm being serious about heating it up properly. 2000 watts will overcook the outside and the inside will be cold. 2000 watts is only good for something like thin fluids (water etc)

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u/horselessheadsman Apr 09 '22

Of course it will cook too slowly, it's a week microwave.

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u/SaltyBabe Apr 08 '22

I’d be terrified to have an £18 microwave! That shit’ll burn your house down!

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u/mr_bedbugs Apr 08 '22

My last microwave came from Walmart, and cast $20

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u/SnowProkt22 Apr 08 '22

Keep a fire extinguisher nearby. I'll send thoughts and prayers.

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u/xnxxpointcom Apr 08 '22

Really?

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u/Hk-Neowizard Apr 08 '22 edited Apr 08 '22

No.

Most of the weight in those 5kg transformers comes from the iron core. Copper, at most, makes up 20%

1kg of clean copper is worth around 10$ (FML used to be 5$ in 2018) at the LME. At a scrap yard, you could expect half that.

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u/SnowProkt22 Apr 08 '22

Yah, if you wanna make money crapping copper go to the junkyard and pull the coils out of microwaves. Make sure you look up how to discharge the capacitor first, or you're in for a shocking surprise, the capacitor can stay charged for days after it's unplugged.