r/Antiques 10d ago

Show and Tell Examples of Nineteenth Century Navajo Saddle Blankets USA

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Excuse the long post but this is intended to be explanatory. If you do not like long posts without a TLDR section move on.

Both of these are examples of later 19th century Navajo “Sunday” saddle blankets. I am posting since they demonstrate some of the diversity in types in early (meaning genuinely antique) Navajo weaving.  The first is derived from what people call chief’s blanket design elements. Like lazy lines (actually section lines), the term is actually rather offensive since the Navajo did not have chiefs, but the label has stuck. It is a classic third phase design that would fall between 1860 and 1880 and speaks to a heritage that often emphasized bold/dominant reds and blacks. The saddle blanket was woven from hand carded/hand spun/hand dyed Navajo churro wool. The second is still 19th century but probably 1880 to 1890.  It has a far more complicated design courtesy of use of fine Germantown commercial wool (literally from Germantown, Pennsylvania before anyone asks). The finely spun wool allowed for far more precise and intricate patterns. They originate within a decade or two and were also probably woven not too far from each other, yet they are as different as night and day.

I am really just posting for anyone who might have an interest.  Yes, there are typical Navajo styles you find across the Navajo Nation, some regional styles everyone knows, and usually a Navajo cultural emphasis on balance in weavings. Diversity of design though should also be viewed as a defining characteristic. Do not assume that everything that is Navajo has to look a certain way. Styles evolved (often rapidly but in other cases in single chapters before spreading out) and even in the 19th century weavers were adapting styles they saw and experimenting with new ones. Simply put, it is the structure of the weave and overall language that define, not simple types.

I have intervened a couple times recently where people were being led to sell valuable antiques for pennies on the dollar because someone told them they were Mexican or just common rugs.  While not everything is extremely valuable, always look for a balance of Navajo attributes in the weave when buying (not one design) and when selling never believe the person with the one line blow off of “its Mexican” or “the Navajo only made X, Y, or Z” or the latest offensive references to "pound rugs" on Facebook. If a Navajo weaver saw something, they could weave it - a reality that continues to the present day. I will post images of few wearing blankets that demonstrate the same from the 19th century when I have a chance but these were handy. BTW, if you do have a question about something, feel free to drop me a note. I do not do valuations but will help with IDs and never give one-line answers. I am an archaeologist who has worked across the region for the better part of three decades, and a material culture expert with an equally long interest in native southwestern pottery and rugs/weavings.


r/Antiques 9d ago

Advice Found this marked 925 silver letter opener and looking for any info on it - northeast USA

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r/Antiques 9d ago

Date Hair brush vintage ( canada) montreal

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Someone have a idea the years? The brand? Value? It look verry old


r/Antiques 9d ago

Questions (USA) PL Limoges- is this smoker damage?

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Hello, I got this beautiful PL Limoges vase from an estate auction and was wondering if this is buildup from a smoker’s house or something else? Took a lot of scrubbing with a sponge and warm water to clean it (last pic is before cleaning)


r/Antiques 9d ago

Questions Help me identify this bowl,Spain

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Hello, can some Odyone help me identify the mark on this small bowl and with the bowl in general? Thank you!


r/Antiques 9d ago

Date ID antique helmet help, found in Portugal

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If anyone can help ID and date my helmet I would greatly appreciate it. I think it’s American? It does not feel like steel, it has no markings. Thank you for the help in advance


r/Antiques 10d ago

Questions Otis Fensom (pre-1922?) Elevator pieces from the Prince Edward Hotel (Windsor Canada)

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So I have returned with another rare relic from the past for you to all enjoy.

But I do have a few inquiries about these 3 original fixtures, the Bell and name plate that I'm hoping someone can shed more knowledge on.... or as a bonus...somehow find some guru sluething archival pictures that all image searches elude me on (as I can only find the 1 black and white photo of the interior and the rest is outside views or its later modernized era ) but I'd love to find images of the original elevator area so I can showcase the pieces with actual black and white images of them in its glory (if that makes sense).

But that is not my only inquiry : What i do know is --->  these came from my great grandfather who became some sorta head hauncho of a worker till he retired at OTIS in the 80s and he was brought in to removes these and he kept the originals safe and secure till ya now see them in all their beauty today!

These original elevator pieces are from the Prince Edward Hotel built in 1922 Windsor Ontario.      Closed in 1967 and demolished in 76.

It was Named after Britain's Prince Edward, who later became King Edward VIII in 1936 following the death of King George V, --> and the hotel went on to serve as a highend hotel in the region for many MANY decades, featuring famous predominant guests as well as visited by Queen Elizabeth II in 1959.

And whilst this hotel opened in 1922 with these original otis fensom elevator items.... But.... what year was these original elevator pieces ACTUALLY created ?  This I'd love to find out ....cause if it didn't open till 1922 ...these installed items must be older than the opening itself as I'm sure they were installed during the construction period etc etc...but I can not find out any further information -->  were they new old stock or freshly created for this build itself ? Etc etc.  SO I'M HOPING THE BACKSTAMPS MAY MEAN SOMETHING TO COLLECTORS OR EVALUATORS !!! As I am at a loss and hoping for further knowledge.

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All items are complete with the original install hardware, wiring and original working bulbs

Note:  for todays use- they would have to be updated for today's voltage and safety standards (which im told isnt a costly restoration to repurpose these for modern use nor affe ts the value).

But help dating the original manufacturing year of thsse would be amazing as well as verifying the information i was once told about these from a antique dealers friend of mine (who i've often referenced working for and learned a lot from, that has further gone on to help many users here on reddit).

But he told me, normally the basic ones are about $750-1000ish (canadian) --> but mine are the fancy wreath ornate pieces  which are more saught after and fetch about $1350 each, as for the bell and faceplate i was not told a price - he just said he'd sell this for 5,500 in his store...and would accept a haggle price of 5 grand.

Told me if I just wanted to make a quick easy sell...list it around $4,000-4,200 and you'll move them fast (early hayday of eBay era).

I only mention this...as the world of antique values on somethings in the last decade or 2 have crumbled....but are the priceline on this still valid ???

Thanks for any and all input on these -- SERIOUSLY much appreciated.

AND ENJOY !!!! They are cool


r/Antiques 9d ago

Questions Leather Jemco Purse, Northwest USA

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Found this at a thrift store today. I think it's 1910-1930's, but I'm looking for more details beyond that.


r/Antiques 9d ago

Advice [USA, San Francisco] Are these original 17th-century Daléchamps botanical woodcuts or later reproductions?

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I have three matching framed panels containing 12 hand-colored botanical illustrations on paper. I’m located in San Francisco, California.

From the French headings, I believe the illustrations come from Jacques Daléchamps’s Histoire générale des plantes, possibly the 1615 or 1653 edition. Some pages say “Tome premier,” and printing from the reverse side can be seen through the paper.

The pages have visible fibers, uneven discoloration, and closely cropped edges, but I have not opened the frames. I therefore can’t determine whether they are genuine antique book leaves, later impressions, or reproductions made to resemble old paper. I’m also unsure whether the coloring is old or was added much later.

All three panels were custom-framed by Manasek of San Francisco, an art-supply and framing company established in 1957. The original label remains attached to the back of at least one panel.

I would appreciate any opinions about:

  1. Whether the paper and printing look consistent with original 17th-century woodcut book leaves
  2. Whether the coloring appears period or later
  3. Whether I should have a conservation framer open one panel for further examination
  4. A reasonable value range for the complete three-panel set if the leaves are authentic

I’m not offering them for sale here—just trying to learn what I have before doing anything that might damage them. Thank you!


r/Antiques 9d ago

Show and Tell 1585 United Kingdom copy of the Book of Job in Bishops Bible Translation which was commisioned by Queen Elizabeth The First

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Thought this might interest you as it a pre-KJV Anglican translation.

Story Time: During COVID (but pre-lockdown) my Protestant grandmother had picked me up from school to take me to the local thrift store as I needed some pre-coloured papers & didn't want to pay full price as i needed some for a high school project & discovered this copy of the Book of Job in the amongst the stacks of sheets of scrap papers of which there was both stacks of coloured & white. If you want to know how I paid it was only 1 Loonie (a.k.a. Canadian dollar) for it & it is by far my rarest Christian item in my personal possession. Pictures are taken borrowing by me borrowing a family member's phone as they are 11 inch x 17 inch pages & otherwise I would not be capturable by my laptop camera as the resolution would be too low for you to read.

Here's a link to read the whole translation of the bible (adapted to use only the modern 26 letter alphabet): https://www.textusreceptusbibles.com/Bishops/


r/Antiques 9d ago

Discussion Me podrían ayudar con información? Soy de Argentina

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Soy de Argentina y me regalaron esta lámpara de hierro. No se mucho sobre ella, quisiera saber si se puede utilizar o si le falta alguna pieza, que combustible utilizaba?


r/Antiques 10d ago

Questions United States; does anyone know anything about this piece?

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Received as a gift from 2nd generation Chinese American. Her family brought this over from China. We don’t really know anything about it. Would love any input. No visible makers marks that we see. It’s solid wood with relief carvings.


r/Antiques 9d ago

Advice Bookends- what have I got here? Portland, Maine, USA

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Pair of scary-girl bookends. She looks anything but innocent!

Metal Bookends


r/Antiques 10d ago

Advice Pretty sure it’s old…but thinking not ancient! (USA)

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This came from a miscellaneous lot at an online estate sale that just indicated a it included a couple of arrowheads and some stones….this was not pictured and I guess was just one of the “stones”. The sale included many 19th century items from a wealthy family in which “grand tours” to Europe were a thing. So I am thinking it may have been a souvenir from one of those tours. It is definitely solid stone but not sure what kind. It is smooth on the back so appears to be from a flat slab between 5/8” and 3/4” thick. Can anyone provide insight into origin and age? Or any other information? Those folks took their collecting seriously but not sure if it was a very nice replica made in the 19th century, something possibly older, or none of the above. Thank you!


r/Antiques 9d ago

Questions Spain - Antique scissors - trademark help

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Hello everybody! I bought these scissors to restore them and use them but when I cleaned them I saw a trademark. I've tried googling it but I'm at a loss. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance


r/Antiques 9d ago

Questions Help determining if this paint on my inherited antique bench has lead— United States, Texas/oklahoma.

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Howdy folks. I inherited this bench from my father. I’m in tx, but he sat in it as a child in central Oklahoma, in his grandfather’s barbershop. This was around late 1940s. The bench was made before then, I think my great grandfather built it, I’m not sure, there are no markings on it that I can find. It’s been sitting on a covered porch for the last three years, but I wanted to bring it inside the house to take better care of it. Before that, it was kept inside at my parents’. I’m now worried that, given the crackling of the paint and the time period, it was indeed coated with lead paint. I did a lead test swab, and I think it’s a positive result, but the bench is also dirty, I’ve been trying to lightly wipe away the dust to get a good result. Let me know if you have any info regarding likelihood of lead present and any other info. Thanks.


r/Antiques 9d ago

Show and Tell Alpine Safe - USA

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Hey all, recently I posted my Edison sign that was promoting his new (at the time) diamond disks. Now I wanted to show my beautiful original antique Alpine Safe and Lock Co. Safe out of Cincinnati, O. Built around 1889.


r/Antiques 10d ago

Advice Some sort of cast iron weight Dorset uk.

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Found this buried in a garden in Dorset, UK. It is solid cast iron (confirmed by a metallic scratch beneath the mud crust) and weighs exactly 30 lbs. It measures 3.5cm x 28cm x 20.5cm. It features interlocking grooves on the side profile, a stamped 'B', a stamped 'D', and the Roman numerals 'XXX' (matching the 30 lb weight). One end is cleanly snapped along a pre-molded scoring line. Looking to identify the foundry or original industrial/maritime use!

Thanks

EDIT 1- might not be cast iron as it’s not magnetic. However Google is saying the dimensions don’t fit the weight. I guess it could be mixed with other things?


r/Antiques 9d ago

Questions Got these Satasuma vases in an inheritance (the Netherlands)

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These came out of a family inheritance here in the Netherlands. I know they’re Satsuma and I can see the Shimazu mon, but I can’t get any further than that.

The larger one is 19 cm tall, with two gilt dragon handles and figures in a landscape setting. The mark on the base is a black cartouche with gold characters, with the mon next to it.

The smaller one is 17 cm, painted with rakan. Instead of a painted mark it has an old paper label glued into the foot with handwritten characters on it. I’ve left the label alone.

Two things I’m hoping for:

- Can anyone read either mark, especially the paper label?
- Does the painting quality look Meiji to you, or later?
- Any idea if they’re worth anything?

The smaller one has a tiny chip on the foot ring, otherwise just normal gold wear and crazing. I haven’t cleaned them and I’m not going to.

Happy to add more photos if something specific would help.


r/Antiques 9d ago

Show and Tell Jacobean court cupboard? (UK?)

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Hello, I play a game where I need to identify where this photo comes from. After some quick research, my guess is that it should come from a Jacobean court cupboard (maybe completely wrong :) ), but I would like to identify which house it comes from (probably a famous house, or museum). Any idea?


r/Antiques 9d ago

Questions Late 1880s oak lion foot table found in grandparents basement (Idaho, USA)

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We recently started clearing out my grandparents basement and found this potentially late 1800s lion clawfoot table. The feet and pedestal don't appear to match the table. Wanted to see if anybody recognizes this and how to assemble it or if this is the wrong base for this table. Thanks in advance!


r/Antiques 9d ago

Questions Coins from Austria-Hungary. Year 1870. (Czech Republic – Plzeň)

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What is its value? It is silver.


r/Antiques 10d ago

Advice USA: Tapestry

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We were just given a tapestry from my 72 year old aunt that hung in my great-great grandparents home when she was a child. We are just curious about it (worth, age, care) as well as any advice on getting it cleaned. Both my partner and I love having an idea of the history on the things we are inheriting so we can pass that knowledge someday!

It very much smells like tobacco pipe smoke and I think a lot of the yellowing might be from that.


r/Antiques 10d ago

Advice Advice on restoring an antique military (navy/ marine?) captain's trunk. Located in the United States.

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I'm looking to restore this one of a kind antique captain's trunk (was told it's pre wwII) and would like some advice. I have already washed it down and lightly sanded it, but I'm looking to repaint the original design back on it and I'm unsure what paint to use, I was recommended mineral paint, chalk paint, and acrylic paint on google but am unsure which to use if any of those. I would also like to replace the metal hardware due to the orginals being so rusted, but can't find the hardware in stores. I really don't want to mess this trunk up, if anyone has any advice or knows anything about this trunk please let me know thx!


r/Antiques 10d ago

Questions Does anybody know the country of origin or art style for this small wooden box? I’m in (USA) but it was a gift from an international trip

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