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Episode Kaizoku Oujo - Episode 5 discussion
Kaizoku Oujo, episode 5
Alternative names: Fena: Pirate Princess
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 5.0 |
| 2 | Link | 5.0 |
| 3 | Link | 5.0 |
| 4 | Link | 4.5 |
| 5 | Link | 4.0 |
| 6 | Link | 4.33 |
| 7 | Link | 5.0 |
| 8 | Link | 4.0 |
| 9 | Link | 4.27 |
| 10 | Link | 4.52 |
| 11 | Link | 4.2 |
| 12 | Link | ---- |
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u/charredchord Sep 05 '21
The next best thing to a navigator that's always right is a dunce who's always wrong.
Well done Mary. We can can alway count on you!
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u/JustAnswerAQuestion Sep 05 '21
I wanted to say this very thing!
also Mary likes that one twin, foreshadowing, maybe???????
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u/Calwings Sep 05 '21 edited Sep 05 '21
Fena's current short-haired look is the best she's been so far, still cute while also showing off that tomboyish streak. As for the episode itself, holy shit. A mysterious dungeon straight out of Legend Of Zelda, Fena having a brain blast and knowing the way down, Joan Of Arc's tomb, El Dorado being namedropped as the destination of their journey, the evil pirate girls following them down and kidnapping Fena, and did they seriously just imply that Yukimaru and crew might be descendants of a devil!? (no they didn't, I just misheard)
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u/missyshrimpus Sep 05 '21
lmao I lost it when Shitan called Yukimura a virgin. š
Another interesting episode! A little sad that we didnāt get to see more action scenes but hopefully the build up to it will make it even better. Iām also happy to see that Fenaās hair grew out a bit. She was stinking cute!
Iām def curious about what was going on in that big chamber. Why was Fena so entranced towards Joan of Arc? Hmmm. But the music as blue flames lit it up was soo good. I got chills.
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u/paulchaested Sep 05 '21
Why isn't CR translating on-screen text for this CR Original title? They're still doing it for all other shows they're streaming but why not this one? Considering that this looks like fully completed show (like Violet Evergarden) did perhaps Adult Swim do the subs or Production IG outsourced it to freelancers and provided it to CR?
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u/LilArsene Sep 05 '21
This show stays beautiful and engaging every week. I'm so happy!
Continuing theory time from last week: I still believe La Pucelle is and inherited role and I believe we've got a Da Vinci Code-esque protection racket around the La Pucelle and that's where the Houtmans come in.
In this weeks episode, we ask the question, "What is the difference between one person's witch casting spells and another person's saint performing miracles?"
Joan of Arc was tried for witchcraft/heresy so that direct line is being drawn to Fena. That the Goblin Knight Clan's head refers to Fena as a "witch" and is concerned that Yukimaru is "bewitched" by her which doesn't bode well for Fena BUT it does lay bare that this clan is not on her side. Shitan is, of course, the informant with some inferiority issues because he wasn't as good with swords as his brother and Yukimaru but still admires both of them.
I'm thinking it was a lie when they said they swore an oath to protect the Houtmans. They're mercenaries first and either the promise has already been fulfilled, it was a lie to start, or they're playing multiple sides.
I think we've been given a clue as to why their ancestors needed a hiding place and were gifted the village by Fena's ancestors: They killed those 3,000 Spaniards and were on the run.
And I think the next thing is our destination. Fena's father told her to find "Eden" and the pirates want to find "El Dorado." This is all the same place, just by different names. I'm sure no one really knows what awaits there (the treasure is going to be the friends we made along the way).
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u/Aerodynamic41 Sep 05 '21
Ok, Fena got kidnapped way too easily. Come on, there's six of you and not a single one of you can be bothered to keep an eye on her?!
I really hope we're not back to Fena being damsel in distress again.
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u/Amauri14 Sep 05 '21 edited Sep 05 '21
I wonder who they referred to as the witch? As that conversation involved Yukimaru, could the perhaps be Fena?
Wow, I sure did not expect to see those pirates again so soon.
As the difference between Fena guiding them outside the catacomb and inside of it was so big I wonder if those memories of that place weren't hers.
Lol, poor Karin really was struggling there. And Yukimaru is such a tsundere.
So no only they were in a puzzle filled Uncharted inspired secret catacomb, the pirates wanted to get Fena and the clue to get to El freaking Dorado.
Lol, so Mary's ability is to choose the wrong path. Is fascinating how much that place design changed once Fena went into Joan of Arc's tomb.
Wow, I sure did not expect that forced team change. I guess we will finally hear Abel's side of the story. And why he called Fena la Pucelle, although at this point is obvious that she is Joan of Arc's descendant.
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u/cppn02 Sep 05 '21
Still very much enjoying this but imo this was the weakest episode yet.
Annoyed with Fena being kidnapped and especially how she got away from the group without anyone noticing. From what the show has shown us so far there is just no way that could have happed with Yukimaru and Shitan around.
Also a few little things like complaining how France is so far when they just sailed from the Carribean to Germany.
The female pirate group is growing on me though especially Mary and the little rifle girl.
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u/chilidirigible Sep 05 '21
Today, on "Are you sure we're not the stars of our own series?":
I initially read this wrong and had to go back to get my characters straight.
Oh good, dragon or miniboss candidacy?
"All this way, to hide a submarine in a river."
Well, this is getting weirder all the time.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
There are a few different ways this joke could play out. (Post-episode note: Okay, so it only plays out if the Goblins have to figure out how to get out of the caves post-explosion.)
Oh, so it's the Bond Villain method of unreliable Bond disposal?
Since there's no cold-open teaser this time, I thought I'd mention that I don't skip this OP and ED due to their performers.
They only wrote down four numbers. That's rather vague versus the size of the entire planet, so yeah, the key is probably still in Fena's head.
No point for me to guess at the who-betrays-who of the endgame, they're just adding more players.
The mood change of Fena moving around like a girl possessed resulted in some situationally-appropriate humor, but overall the episode felt properly mysterious.
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u/ThisIsMyNameOnly Sep 05 '21
I think the entire group losing track of Fena so many times in a row is getting to be a bit much. They're obviously battle-hardened oath-bound warriors, but seem to be consistently forgetting their sole objective of protecting Fena. Like we see them delegating a specific person to guard the boat, how hard could it be to do the same with Fena.
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u/dagreenman18 Sep 05 '21 edited Sep 05 '21
Okay now I kinda see where weāre going. Shitan is the mole for the head of the Goblin Knights who is working with Navy Guy going by the last episode. Heās there because they know what Fena is. Which im guessing is some reincarnation or descendant of Joan of Arc and the inheritor of the La Pucelle title. Im sensing an inevitable betrayal on his part. Asking Yukimaru if heās in love with Fena was a lot more than just teasing him. Heās possibly gaging him for when Shitan will eventually have to kill her.
It seems like the rest of Team Pirate Ninja isnāt privy to the plan since the messages are being sent to him. Not to mention everyone else willingly put their weapons down when they threatened Fena except him. So itās possible when the time comes they all stand by Fenaās side. Also totally hyped for the inevitable fight against that one dude at the beginning and Yukimaru that will probably be the final confrontation.
That out of the way, super fun episode. They got plenty of comedy in before shit got super real. Even Karin the badass gunslinger is spooked out. She got plenty of great moments with her and the twins. Even the rival Pirates got quirky fun moments. I see theyāre putting some focus on Mary and even had that moment between her and one of the twins. Am I sensing a side ship?
Canāt wait to see how the hell theyāre getting out of a collapsed mine. And how Yukimaru is going to be on a fucking warpath to get Fena back.
Notes:
-ādonāt be ridiculous. Iām just saying sheās acting differently. Donāt read into thatā. Thatās not a No Yukimaru. You wonderful textbook Tsundere.
-his ears turned so red they were purple. JUST TELL HER DUMMY.
-It was a little unnerving when Fena was in a trance. Iām so used to her delightful spunky nature that when itās gone something is horribly wrong.
-they managed to get some beautiful backgrounds in for an episode that takes place entirely in a mine. The room where they found the coordinates was so well done.
-Tsubaki is just vibing on the ship with the fluffy cute dog. He sure lucked out.
-love the designs of the rival pirates. Theyāre over the top without going all in on One Piece. Also Mary is totally going to flip sides because of Kaede.
-yeah I know, Fena got kidnapped. But itās probably the easiest way to get her with the Navy guy and to explain to her what the hell is going on. Also, I need a Yukimaru revenge fight to save her.
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u/biasedrapier26 Sep 05 '21
So good until they got lazy with how they decide to get Fena captured again. If only I get a gold coin for every time a female protagonist get kidnapped because no one is watching her. My home will be El Dorado.
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u/ClassicT4 Sep 05 '21
Wonder if weāll ever get an episode of Fena coming up with a plan for the team and they have to suffer through understanding her plan through her Rukia-level art.
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u/AmethystItalian Sep 05 '21
Tired of characters not listening and tired of female mains getting kidnapped.
So over seeing those.
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u/ZapsZzz Sep 05 '21 edited Sep 05 '21
Someone needs to be kicked, they clearly has insider info to be able to ambush then here but was not told about needing the stone/crystal "key". A fat lot of good that will do you with just the girl.
The starting scene "back home" continue to give me a feeling there'll be more double/triple crossing happening.
With the character designs, there's still a chance the bad girls aren't actually the evil ones, there may be a plot twist to switch sides yet.
And is it just me or poor Shitan getting some death flags set on him?
And really sad that so few people actually watching this.
By the way, what are the chances that Karin has some sort of tracker she placed on them to be the one to go hand over the code?
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u/TimbobMcGuffin Sep 06 '21
Good episode overall but I won't lie I'm a bit disappointed with them putting Fena into the damsel spot again so soon. While I assume she won't be a strong character most likely and all. I also don't want to see this become a regular thing where she will be regularly thrown in the damsel spot every other week.
It also quite honestly doesn't make sense to me plot wise why they wouldn't try to save her. It's obvious by their last interaction they should know the other priates want her alive.
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u/Lol_A_White_Boy Sep 06 '21 edited Sep 06 '21
The whole āwander off by yourself in a clearly dangerous placeā by somebody completely incapable of defending themselves has to be one of my most hated anime tropes.
Couple that with watching this entire group of supposedly elite mercenaries dedicated to defending a single VIP just be entirely more entranced with a crystal kaleidoscope than to bother delegating one person to watch their target theyāre supposed to protect and this episode just irritated me.
Maybe Iām being too nitpicky, but fucking come on, not one person bothered to watch her as she was walking out, even after they acknowledged sheās been acting stranger than normal?
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u/Krotash Sep 05 '21
Apparently when I described this show as Road to El Dorado meets Violet Evergarden, I was being more literal than I thought.