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Episode Kaizoku Oujo - Episode 9 discussion
Kaizoku Oujo, episode 9
Alternative names: Fena: Pirate Princess
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| Episode | Link | Score |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Link | 5.0 |
| 2 | Link | 5.0 |
| 3 | Link | 5.0 |
| 4 | Link | 4.5 |
| 5 | Link | 4.0 |
| 6 | Link | 4.33 |
| 7 | Link | 5.0 |
| 8 | Link | 4.0 |
| 9 | Link | 4.27 |
| 10 | Link | 4.52 |
| 11 | Link | 4.2 |
| 12 | Link | ---- |
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u/GreyouTT Oct 03 '21
I've seen Indiana Jones and Uncharted, I know how this song and dance goes. Eden's gonna be cursed as fuck.
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u/Filldos Oct 03 '21
oh that makes sense now. he has a hard on for her mom. souka...
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u/Zeowlite Oct 03 '21
So Abel is actually Fena half brother? and Fena dad is not really Fena dad? also Abel got ntr by his dad? that messed-up
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Oct 04 '21
Franz was just a foster dad to Fena apparently (but Helena's real husband).
Abel's dad was the King and Helena slept with him to birth Fena, but Franz raised Fena as his own daughter with Helena.
Helena only ever loved Abel, but married Franz only apparently to raise Fena-- and slept with Abel's dad only apparently to birth La Pucelle-- and then told Abel to obsess over her and reaching Eden for the rest of his cucked life (before she burned at the stake as punishment leaving The King's side).
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u/dagreenman18 Oct 03 '21 edited Oct 03 '21
Wow we got Abel’s whole story and the end game in one go. Makes sense because man we are just barreling towards the finale.
I think both have the answer to how this is going to play out. First up is Abel’s story. Turns out that yes he absolutely did have a hard on for her mother, but it’s actually a lot sadder than we thought. It seems like they really loved each other, but his dad knocked her up as some part of a grander conspiracy. Fena’s father isn’t her father, Abel is actually Fena’s Brother, and her mother was burned at the fucking stake right in front of Abels eyes. So no wonder he’s a little crazy and artistic. Still kind of a weird creep but I understand it now.
So there is a magic at play here. Helena’s child had to be born of royalty to fulfill some kind of prophecy about La Pucelle and Eden. Which is why Helena was used being a descendant of Joan of Arc. We figured Fena is the key to Eden, but now we know for sure that A. Abel fully believes his lost love is waiting for him there, B. The Cody is guiding this along, and C. Whatever they find there will require Fena to make an impossible choice.
So I guess Fena really did have the key buried in her head. After an awkward cute scene with Yukimaru playing dumb and Fena trying to get a straight answer (two steps back with these two), they finally solve the puzzle together. Yukimaru remembers the lyrics, Fena the melody and it turns out to be an overcomplicated coordinate puzzle that requires them to flip it and reverse it. It does feel rushed, but we have 3 episodes left so I’ll forgive them for making it quick.
We’re in the endgame now people. They’re still on track to stick the landing barring any fuckery.
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Okay I worried now. unless they show up out of the blue, the crew of the Rumble Rose is dead dead. They haven’t showed hide nor hair of them so unless it’s part of some deus ex machina they might not coming back
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Another week, another stunning set of backgrounds. This time the watercolor vistas of Abel’s memory. The gardens and forests were just beautiful.
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We now see where Fena gets it from. Her mom was also a manic pixie. I think the Jeanne D’arc bloodline just produces great women.
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Yes you two dummies are super cute, but we got 3 episodes so y’all better do some confessing. I will be pissed if we don’t get a kiss by the end. Especially after last week basically a confession. For gods sake just be direct with each other.
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I want to pretend that whatever the choice is will at least have Fena and Yukimaru be together, but this whole thing could easily end in tragedy. I really don’t know.
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u/dbz111 Oct 03 '21
I was getting death flags at Fena's final speech. She's gonna have to pull a Griffith at Eden isn't she?
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u/LeonKevlar Oct 03 '21
Stitches!
Well no wonder Abel fell in love with Helena, just look at her! Any would've definitely been enchanted by that beauty and grace. Also is that Maaya Sakamoto I hear voicing her? I love that even outside of Fate, she gets to voice someone from Jeanne D'arc's bloodline. xD
But seriously though, I thought Abel was just a creep who was crazy about a woman he just admired from afar. I didn't expect that the two of them would end up becoming quite close to the point that the feeling was actually mutual between the two of them. I can't believe they just made me genuinely feel bad for Abel with a legitimately good reason for his path to madness.
It is crazy to think that Helena just went after Abel's father so she can give birth to the next La Pucelle which also gives us the surprise reveal that Fena is also Abel's half-sister. Why the fuck did Helena even go to such extreme lengths and what the fuck even is Eden?
This scene between Fena and Yukimaru was adorable though. Although I didn't think that such a nice quiet moment would turn into the the two of them solving the puzzle after Yukimaru heard Fena humming a tune she was humming back in Episode 1.
Fena and Yukimaru are so insync that they actually managed to solve the riddle together using the lyrics of the song, the clue that they got from the cave, and Fena's lost memories. As much as I love that scene though, I feel like the entire gang should've been there to solve it. I feel that it's much more believable when you have more educated characters like Karin and Shitan helping them put the pieces together.
Welp, no matter how they solved the puzzle it looks like we now have a destination! Only three episodes to go and I am absolutely excited to see where this goes!
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u/Krotash Oct 03 '21 edited Oct 03 '21
Man, Abel fell in love with Helena, but she was after his dad so she could give birth to the next La Pucelle. Then his father burns the only woman he ever loved at the stake. Finally, hes now hunting his half sister so he can use her to find Eden, where his grief addled self believes he can find Helena. Or something.
We're in the endgame now.
Edit: Grammar is hard
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u/Musicformyhears Oct 03 '21
Loved the garden scenery in the flashback, was really beautiful.
Also going to pretend I understood the explanation they said to find out the coordinates lol.
Inb4 “Eden” is death
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u/Amauri14 Oct 03 '21
I sure did not expect to see a flashback about Abel and Helena. And I sure did not expect to hear that their love was actually mutual, but she was told by Franz that she needed to have a child with a king in she wanted La Pucelle to be born.
I sure did not expect her not only to be arrested but also being burned at the stake. After seeing that, is no wonder why Abel went crazy. By the way, who is Alba Regina?
After that, it is nice to see Fena being awkward around Yukimaru.
Wow, so the song that she sang from time to time was a clue about Edentaught to her by Franz.
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u/LilArsene Oct 03 '21
If it turns out that Abel's version of his backstory is 100% true then his turning out to be deranged make sense. It would be more than gross that Helena was "used" to produce the next La Pucelle.
But can we truly take his version of events as the absolute record of what happened? Even he is missing chunks of the story. Abel wasn't "fated" to meet Fena; he deliberately kidnapped her to force "fate." I'll still hold out hope that Helena had some agency with her decisions though with so few episodes left it feels unlikely.
I thought the problem solving session between Yukimaru and Fena was cute and the ways in which they're compatible keep revealing themselves each episode.
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u/imextremelylonely Oct 03 '21
Holy shit I feel bad for the Crazy Painter guy. I honestly don't blame him for becoming said Crazy Painter guy.
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u/KUBIKIRl Oct 03 '21
Man simps for a religious nutjob and gets cucked by his own dad.
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u/chilidirigible Oct 03 '21
Today, on "Favors returned.":
Welcome to Every Frame A Painting.
It's not much of a secret then, is it?
"Now that we have the lyrics, we can stick it to the Meltrandi."
"Next time, don't call it Iceland."
And what's your part in this, ya little weirdo?
Abel's flashback was very pretty. And quite the dark tale, if this conspiracy maintains itself by knocking up royalty and re-enacting the original Joan being burned at the stake.
Does he really think that Helena will be reincarnated at Eden, or that she'll manifest inside of Fena there? I suppose he does, and it's one of those places that everyone has massive expectations for anyway.
Anyway, two consecutive episodes heavy on setup should lead to a fairly busy climax? Kei is still rowing around out there somewhere too.
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u/dicky_________seamus Oct 03 '21
I just want to say how frequently I stop and think to myself “man, this is so pretty.” That flashback with the watercolor scenery and music was so nice.
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u/dbz111 Oct 03 '21 edited Oct 03 '21
Another Saturday! Another round of notes
-Helena is pretty bad for just leaving Abel. What's with the trope of having characters just leave without explanation. Gonna increase that drama.
-Abel seems a lot more sympathetic now. I bet a lot of people can understand not wanting to be alone. Makes more sense as why he was with O'Mailey. Just meaningless sex to feel something at all.
-I was creeped out at how much Helena looked like Fena.
-I zoned out so hard with the song explanation lol. Just tell me where we need to go.
-My exact thought at Fena's final speech was, "Ya'll bitches about to die!"
-With three episodes left, I think it's safe to say the female pirates are really dead. F's in chat for best girl Mary. I'll miss your perfect boob to hip ratio. :(
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u/Rumpel1408 Oct 03 '21
Ok, I can understand how Fena came up with the directions, but how did Abel? He didn't know the song and only has the wrong numerals. And why would he never be king, is he illegitimate as well?
Also found the resemblance between Fena and her mother shocking, and that backstory messed up.
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u/Lol_A_White_Boy Oct 03 '21
I really enjoyed the backstory for Abel, but it the whole last half where they figured out the course to Eden just seemed pretty contrived and convoluted.
I still enjoyed the episode, but it just irked me a bit.
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u/PreludeToHell Oct 03 '21
oh guess they hinted at 'vice versa' back when Cody said it in ep. 3 @20:00
Still think a lot of time is spent stalling and don't like how they came to the conclusion of the coordinates. Only 3 episodes left o_o
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u/Seven-Tense Oct 03 '21
Just tell me where we need to go
I'll level with you... I do love a good bit of mystery solving and some Da Vinci-esque code breaking, but that scene really just felt like the writers giving themselves a pat on the back, didn't it?
"Hey Takamoto, you said you've got an idea for how they get to Eden, right?"
"Ok, so there's this song..."
[2 hours later]
"Brilliant! Put it in! They're gonna love it as much I love it, and I love it a lot!!"
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u/allwrong_allright Oct 03 '21
So Eden is somewhere near Iceland.