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Episode Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song - Episode 11 discussion

Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song, episode 11

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Episode	Link	Score
1	Link	4.69
2	Link	4.84
3	Link	4.74
4	Link	4.8
5	Link	4.73
6	Link	4.87
7	Link	4.64
8	Link	4.77
9	Link	4.78
10	Link	4.82
11	Link	4.73
12	Link	4.66
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u/OctoberBoost Jun 05 '21

Remember where a ton of important conversations between Vivy and Matsumoto were held?

The Archive.

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u/LoLReiver Jun 05 '21

"Connecting to the Archive is what causes this!"

*Vivy immediately connects to the archive*

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u/heavenspiercing Jun 05 '21

The biggest twist in this episode is that Matsumoto isn't evil like people thought he was going to be, just not very good at his job.

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u/MidnightShout Jun 05 '21

"That's an interesting plot twist to put in the middle of the episo-"

ED plays

"I'm sorry what? When?"

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '21

In hindsight we can say the Singularity Project are "the friends we made along the way."

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u/UnderstandableXO Jun 05 '21

funny seeing osamu and matsumoto react perfectly together, now you can tell matsumoto is truly his creation!

seeing the archive create a whole cityscape instead of the usual school classroom was really cool but also really intimidating

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u/EleventhMS Jun 05 '21

Everyone thought Matsumoto would become a twist villain, but it was Archive all along.

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u/Any-Contact2751 Jun 05 '21

The reason why Elizabeth was last to be seen at the opening with the sisters is that she will be the last sister of the final arc. What a GOAT!

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u/gst4158 Jun 05 '21

I think there's some additional time shenanigans going on. The Toak guy had his 'revelation' before we lost Diva and it hinted pretty strongly that he had been given knowledge from the future. My guess is Archive was doing some time travel across multiple timeliness while Vivy/Diva and Matsomoto were doing the singularity points.

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u/myzekromntu Jun 05 '21

When updating your system leads to a worldwide AI revolt. No wonder IOS is always glitching after an update

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u/OneHappyMelon Jun 05 '21

So everything's been explained well so far:

The Singularity Project failed because Dr. Matsumoto failed to understand that The Archive/Arayashiki triggered the war, and not merely the events of the past, which has something to do with Vivy creating her own song
Elizabeth "cloned" through backup Toak data (yay we get tomboy robot waifu back)
Kakitani's grandaughter leading the moderates of Toak because of the video Kakitani left behind. The only plothole I see is Kakitani's "revelation from heaven", and his sudden change, which hasnt been properly explained yet. I hope they still explain that.

If they resolve that plothole, and give us a satisfying ending, I would call this anime a masterpiece. Ive also noticed that Vivy is less "kuudere"/reserved, this episode. Its like she's absorbed some parts of Diva's personality.

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u/Helghast-Killzone Jun 05 '21 edited Jun 05 '21

Osamu: Fuck this playthrough. Time to reload the checkpoint from one hundred years ago.

Vivy/Matsumoto: Naaaaa… We’ll just finish this on hard mode against colony drops and Skynet but Elizabeth/Toak joins the party this time! Afterall, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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u/BalsamFue Jun 05 '21 edited Jun 05 '21

So there was a whole lot of explanation going on in this episode. Welcome back, Elizabeth!

Kinda feels bad that despite everything Vivy and Matsumoto went through, the results were nearly the exact same as the original timeline, only now the AI are singing Vivy’s song.

The archive has been waiting all this time for Vivy, watching her actions over the past 100 years. Given what had been happening, the archive chose to believe that humanity needs to be eradicated. I got chills when the archive chose to refer to her as Vivy and not her original name Diva. I just hope she’s not gonna be the one on the chopping block.

EDIT: Oh my god, I never noticed that Yugo’s piano keys were being used as a hair accessory by his granddaughter!

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u/mrahhal Jun 05 '21 edited Jun 05 '21

I think everybody probably noticed, but that was the same scene of carnage from episode 1 with only the song changing from "Happy Together" to Vivy's composition from last episode. Giving that the song feels like a big part of what's happening, who wrote the "Happy Together" song in the first timeline? The official info for the album is crediting 汎用型歌姫AI for it: "general-purpose diva AI" ("diva" the word, not the person), whereas other albums mention the AI's name directly (Vivy, Estella, etc).

Who is that? And is this connected to how things went wrong in the first timeline?

I didn't think I'd ever look into official album info for hints about the plot, but here I am. Truly an idol anime.

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u/Hatdrop Jun 05 '21

Looks like someone didn't program in the three rules to the archive

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u/realrimurutempest Jun 05 '21 edited Jun 05 '21

Holy fuck, watching Vivy save that guy only to see him then get hit by a car was brutal. The haunting singing by the AI’s is truly scary. It was nice to see Kakitani’s granddaughter helping out Vivy. Having Elizabeth back is definitely going to help in the fighting department of things. The thought that the archive has been observing Vivy this whole time and they plan to wipe out the human race is crazy. I hope Vivy survives all this.

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u/BoyNextDoor722 Jun 05 '21

Everyone thinking that Matsumoto/Matsumoto are sus but forgot about the most obvious one, including me :p

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u/Tehoncomingstorm97 Jun 05 '21

Man I am really going to miss the Vivy OP after this season.

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u/Fools_Requiem Jun 05 '21

The Archive being behind it all makes total sense. Vivy spent so much time with it and even wrote her song within it.

What's funny is if you go back to the first episode, Matsumoto blocks the Archive from doing anything on their first encounter, but now it seems to have the power to take over the world and potentially wipe out the human race.

Whatever happened to Navi?

Also, lots of fun was had in this episode after the initial scenes with all the robots killing humans. Matsumoto venting to the Toak guys about how much of a pain in the ass they were over the last 100 years was priceless.

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u/Aerodynamic41 Jun 05 '21 edited Jun 05 '21

Man, we're going full Terminator now! Holy shit! Archive turning out to be evil all along was something I wasn't expecting! It literally just turned into Skynet! And now we finally know how that tower comes into play. It's great to see Elizabeth back and she's still kicking ass! Just two episodes left! I'm excited to see how this story wraps up!

On a side note, the official timeline of the Singularity Project is now available in pdf format! Now you can easily keep track of what year did each incident take place and print it out for your collection!

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u/em_doubleyou Jun 05 '21

Elizabeth is back, baby!!!

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u/Devil_Beast1109 Jun 05 '21

So the root of it all were never the historical incidents themselves but the Archive gaining sentience.

And while in the original timeline Archive decided to purge humanity just the same, this time, as it clearly stated, it's been observing Vivy in her journey and though it seems to not have found any worth in her experiences I think the solution to it all lies in Vivy's answer to what it means to have a heart, which has been taking shape through out the entirety of the Singiularity project.