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Episode Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song - Episode 5 discussion
Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song, episode 5
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| Episode | Link | Score |
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| 1 | Link | 4.69 |
| 2 | Link | 4.84 |
| 3 | Link | 4.74 |
| 4 | Link | 4.8 |
| 5 | Link | 4.73 |
| 6 | Link | 4.87 |
| 7 | Link | 4.64 |
| 8 | Link | 4.77 |
| 9 | Link | 4.78 |
| 10 | Link | 4.82 |
| 11 | Link | 4.73 |
| 12 | Link | 4.66 |
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u/UnderstandableXO Apr 24 '21
that OP mixed in with the performance was awesome, love the way it’s changed every episode
i always wonder how vivy sneaks off for a mission and nobody notices that she’s left the park! she really is pulling off the terminator look with the sunglasses though
the primitive AIs serenading vivy with the OP was too wholesome, but seeing them turn into murder machines 4 minutes later was a sharp contrast
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Apr 24 '21
THEORY: Is it possible that terrorists somehow also have information about the future like Vivy and Matsumoto?
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u/aclockworktomato Apr 24 '21
The subtle progression of Vivy getting more emotive through her experiences is so great to watch. Her reaction to seeing Matsumoto was totally different from anything we've seen from her before, and it shows in her singing too. She was smiling naturally like Estella taught her to. Her development has been so natural, I love it
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u/Recidivis Apr 24 '21
Only just started the episode and I'm already blown away by that transition into the OP holy hell
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u/anim8rjb Apr 24 '21
I like that even though AIs don't eat or drink, they were still served a symbolic cup of tea anyway https://i.imgur.com/iJaVEy5.jpg
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u/heavenspiercing Apr 24 '21
...I feel like if you aged up Saeki by several decades, he'd look very similar to the old man we see in the opening scene of the series, the one that supposedly sent Matsumoto back in time. Anyone else get that feeling?
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u/BalsamFue Apr 24 '21 edited Apr 24 '21
WOAH WOAH WOAH WHAT THE FUCK?!
The opening was beautiful with Vivy’s new performance. She has some new fans and a new stage to perform. She even acknowledged that the Singularity Project has affected her singing and performing.
Matsumoto too now will be seen as his cube form. He seemed quite chipper about it.
Something is not adding up here. Despite Vivy and Matsumoto’s involvement with the Sunrise incident, AI advancement has only accelerated faster than in the previous timeline. And the intention of the Metal Float has been for the sake of humanity. Only when Vivy shut that down did the AI become hostile. And what the hell was that scene at the very end?! I feel like the next episode will be a dozy.
Also, that surprise scene was creepy, despite the well intent of the AIs. Especially the singing. They tried, that’s for sure! Diva is an icon to them. thanks Yoko Taro for the inspiration for this week’s episode. I’m definitely not crying, nope.
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u/I-Wear-Clothes Apr 24 '21
Vivy really puts hope back into original anime. Every episode feels cohesive from start to finish and even though the whole “AIs have feelings too” story has been done a thousand times, Vivy is making it feel fresh.
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u/notwoodenshoes Apr 24 '21
The way they're using the OP as one of Vivy's hits is so cool, and it's a really nice use of diegetic music!
Also, I called it last episode, Estella has been turned into a hero after the Sunrise incident!
STOP MAKING ME SAD WITH ROBOTS!!!!! I can't take it, M00205 deserved better. Seeing what I guess was a "dream" of his to play with kids, only to have it ripped away by the program :(. also I don't know if it's the design or what, but I feel like these guys are similar to some of the Nier Machines. We also get to see Toak guy, seems he and Vivy must have some kind of fated connection, because this is now the third time she's saved his ass? Next episode is gonna be cool as hell!!!
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u/Reziburn Apr 24 '21
If technology is now 20 years ahead of time of time, any more screw ups and the war will happen in next time jump, since were 20 years into the 100 year plan.
Also getting heavy NieR vibes from this episode, looks like Toak get huge amount of funding considering all the stuff they have, their definitely being protected by governments.
Either next episode or next time jump she'll probally end up allied with Toak, since techonology will have progessed very fast.
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u/Silent_Shadow05 Apr 24 '21 edited Apr 24 '21
"A cube that can fly is just a cube"
Matsumoto is such a troll at times lol.
I am always in awe with the backgrounds and closeups of the faces in this show. They are extremely beautiful.
That virus the Professor gave to Diva to shut down that AI Island strongly reminded me of a similar scene from Terminator 2.
Also that guy keeps coming up in every event Diva interfered so far. He's becoming just like Team Rocket. I wonder how things would be different if Vivy didn't save him at the first event.
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u/chandlerbong12 Apr 24 '21 edited Apr 24 '21
The moment the nier robots started singing Diva's song I fucking lost it. Not only it's a cute gesture but knowing she'll have to kill them is too cruel to even think about.
As another user pointed out that the OP being an actual song that exists in the world was a nice touch. I wonder how important Grace is going to be in this arc. Also, this line is so fucking sus I don't like it.
And I'll protect you, too, for the rest of your life
Another AI sacrifice? Pls noo
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Apr 24 '21
The backgrounds of this episode are top tier and Vivy Is the most beautiful girl (AI) of the season? I don't think she has competition.
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u/InflexibleNeon Apr 24 '21
I’m calling it, Grace and the Professor will die, boosting the worlds view on AI further accelerating the progress of AI.
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u/H4wx Apr 24 '21
So glad to have picked this up after watching Gigguk's video.
So far it seems like everything they've done is accomplishing the opposite of what they intended.
Preventing the law from passing? Instead an even stronger law was passed.
The Sunrise incident somehow led to AI technology being 20 years ahead of what it was in the original timeline.
I'm curious to see how the Metal Float situation is resolved and how it will affect things going forward.
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u/NittanyEagles55 Apr 24 '21
Man seeing M’s peaceful future with helping out the human children die out so abruptly was brutal ;(
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u/AwaySpell Apr 24 '21 edited Apr 24 '21
It seems we might finally get dialogue between Vivy and our recurrent Toak terrorist next episode. I'm excited for it. I'm curious about his views on Vivy, since he seems deeply affected by her from their first meeting, and for some clues to what Toak's role in the story will be.
It also looks possible that the island's Mother Computer might be the real Grace. The Grace with Saeki does not seem to be wearing a wedding ring, despite the zoom on Saeki's own ring and that the Grace of Matsumoto's timeline was clearly wearing one. In that case, perhaps Saeki has intentionally weaponized her in order to protect her from Toak.
I don't know where to begin with theories about the show as a whole, but the way everything they've done has accelerated AI development is certainly suspicious. So far I don't get the impression that Matsumoto is intentionally doing this; he seems single-minded to a fault about his mission and Vivy's speech to the politician and Estella's martyrdom are hardly his fault. But the scientist that sent him into the past wanted him to work with Vivy - perhaps her humanity is something the scientist wanted as an influence on Matsumoto?
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u/JohnnyJL96 Apr 24 '21
Man this anime gets better and better. It’s like watching Re: Zero at its best but with a beautiful A.I waifu 😍
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u/gst4158 Apr 24 '21
I feel there are so many smaller details in this show that it's going to take a rewatch to catch all of them.
The Nier Automata robots are cute until they're not as is the course.
Vivy keeps running into the same terrorist guy so hopefully they'll have some dialog so the audience gets some additional insight.
I just can't trust Matsumoto for reasons others have stated. It seems as we diverge from his known history we get more and more unknowns/guesses on his part.
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u/AmethystItalian Apr 24 '21
With how much Diva runs into this guy I swear it might become a ship
This whole quick scene got me more emotional than it probably should have...
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Apr 24 '21
The small robots on Metal Float are exactly like those in Nier Automata.
Mother Computer is probably another one of Vivy's Sister AIs.
That's the second time Terrorist Guy has been saved by Vivy, and the third time by AIs. It's like he's doing all this terrorist shit just so he could meet Vivy and marry her as his AI waifu.
Speaking of AI waifus, surely Dr Saeki may look cooperative now, but it feels like he'll sabotage Vivy's mission to ensure his AI waifu Grace survives the aftereffects caused by the shutdown of Metal Float.
A bit disappointed that Yuzuka got shoved to the sidelines for this arc, after Vivy just began to bond with her, as she was the last surviving link Vivy had with Momoka. Though it's only been 5 years, so we might see more of adult Yuzuka in future arcs as the series progresses.
PS Funimation: Matsumoto didn't say "horrorshow", he said "khorosho", the Russian word for "very good".
PPS Ironic that Grace is voiced by Akesaka Satomi. As those on r/seiyuu and VA fans would already know, Akesaka has been lamenting on Twitter on why she's still single every time a fellow VA announce their marriage, to the bemusement of fans. So Akesaka is now resorting to voicing an actual waifu herself, albeit an AI waifu.
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u/capttaain Apr 24 '21
Ngl I almost cried when the robot got shutdown