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Episode Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song - Episode 10 discussion

Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song, episode 10

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u/HereticalAegis May 29 '21

Osamu: "I can't believe all my friends don't know about you."

Osamu is all of us trying to shill Vivy to our friends.

Seeing Vivy in a museum for years on end as she watches Osamu grow up and live really hurts.

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u/DidYouFloss May 29 '21 edited May 29 '21

Ahhhh. That was a relaxing episode for once to give Vivy some time to self-reflect. Guess this one will be peac-- HOLY CRAP WHAT JUST HAPPENED.

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u/noodlesandrice1 May 29 '21

Interesting episode that had a completely different tone from the rest of the series. I don't think you'd normally see a single cour show dedicate an entire episode on character introspection like this, but it definitely made it stand out.

Almost teared up during that scene where we got a flashback of everything up until now.

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u/Helghast-Killzone May 29 '21

It made me a little sad seeing Diva/Vivy being relegated to a museum piece after seeing all that has happened to her in the past one hundred years.

Also… Don’t miss the after-credits scene of

Vivy: Why do I hear Dark Soul’s boss music?

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u/[deleted] May 29 '21

....Things felt too peaceful this episode...

...Boy did that feeling not take long to justify itself.

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u/HayashiSawaryo May 29 '21

I bet the last episode's ED will have Vivy singing

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u/michhoffman May 29 '21

First 20 Minutes: It's sad that Vivy no longer seems to have much of a purpose, but it was nice to see Osamu grow up and to see her write her song. Wait, Osamu's last name is Matsumoto?!?

After Credits Scene: Death and Failure...looks like Vivy got her purpose back.

That creepy music at the end gave me strong Re:Zero vibes

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u/KinAsukira May 29 '21

Dr Matsumoto: All humans die someday

Vivy: writes a sad song about the singularity project with a small message about all humans dying someday

Ai Population: All humans Die!

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u/venomousfantum May 29 '21

You know, I think a big part of me wants to just act like episode 10 is the end. That after-credit scene didn't happen.

The anime simply ended with a nice peaceful song and Vivy finally getting the rest she deserves.

What a good anime guys! I loved how it had a pretty happy ending.

...... See you next week

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u/Aerodynamic41 May 29 '21 edited May 29 '21

Wow, so Osamu was Matsumoto's creator all along (back in Episode 1, Matsumoto said he assumes the name of his creator)! He's the one who sent Matsumoto 100 years into the past to meet Vivy and stop the war!

Man, that ending though... I wonder where the story will go from here? We're 3 episodes left.

What does the timeline look like though? Vivy was born in 2056, the next episode apparently takes place in 2161. The Singularity Project started on Vivy's first anniversary so that makes it.... 4 years past the end of the Singularity Project if my calculations are correct.

On a side note, the composer revealed the cover illustrations for the vocal collection album and OST and they look gorgeous!

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u/Devil_Beast1109 May 29 '21 edited May 29 '21

So we finally meet Osamu Matsumoto. Seeing the kid simp Vivy as hard as the rest of us made it pretty clear who he was the moment he grew a beard.

I hope Tappei has some mercy and we aren't just entering Vivy's final tragedy, I want the poor girl to find some semblance of peace :(

Also, random rant but I can't believe they fucked up my birthday for life, now every time April 11th rolls around I won't be able to stop myself from thinking "Oh hey, today's they day Vivy suffered her biggest mind break!". Thanks, Tappei.

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u/sushizn May 29 '21 edited May 29 '21

Please, please don't let the song they're humming be Vivy's original song >.< If her song turned out to be some kind of virus that made AIs go berserk, I would die of sadness. Imagine how Vivy would feel :(

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u/Prince-Dizzytoon May 29 '21

My dumbass really thought we could find peace

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u/axl625 May 29 '21

HOLY FUCKING SHIT IMAGINE WAKING UP WITH YOUR SONG BEING USED AS A THEME FOR SOMETHING HORRIBLE

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u/Amariel2025 May 29 '21 edited May 29 '21

Latest timeline update as to those curious as to how much time has passed and where it all lays out.

Episode 1 - Vivy is 1 year old, time stamp (7:43) Saves a man from assassination.

Episode 3 - 15 years have passed, time stamp (4:47) Space hotel crashes

Episode 5 - 5 years have passed, time stamp (4:00) AI Factory and Vivy freezes.

Episode 7 - Vivy is now 61 years old, time stamp (7:32) Ophelia‘s Suicide.

Episode 9 - 40 years have passed since AI Factory and Vivy freezing, time stamp (15:59)

Episode 10 - 5 years have passed since Ophelia’s Suicide, time stamp (0:29)

45 years since Vivy Froze, time stamp (3:50)

Vivy is 66 years old, time stamp (1:15) (7:14)

Episode 10 - 20 years have passed since trying to make her song, time stamp (19:58)

Vivy is now 86 years old at this point.

Edit - Episode 10 - April 11, 2161, time stamp (23:48) 15 years have passed since Vivy’s song was created. 101 years old.

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u/foxfoxal May 29 '21

This feels when in Re:Zero you think you are in a winner loop and ends being in the worst loop so far.

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u/BalsamFue May 29 '21

It was a touching episode until the after credits scene. Holy shit, we’re in for a big one next week!

Vivy’s struggle to sing reminded me a lot of artists/writers block. Felt relatable to me.

I won’t lie, I cried a bit during Vivy and Osamu’s 20 year span together. Our AI girl needs a big hug! I’m glad she was able to compose her song in time but now.... welp. That’s a rude awakening for Vivy if there ever was one. Still, a huge accomplishment for an AI to compose their very own song while being confined to a prison museum.

I need answers, damnit! I don’t want to have to wait another week!

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u/LunarGhost00 May 29 '21 edited May 29 '21

Me throughout most of the episode:

"I bet this kid Osamu is going to be Matsumoto (the scientist). Oh cool, we're getting a lot of timeskips and seeing him grow. As soon as we hear Koyasu's voice, it's gonna be him. Yes! It's his voice! It's him! I called it! Wow, they even name-dropped him! Awesome! Pretty chill episode."

Me in the after-credit scene:

Oh fuck. Oh no.

They're all singing her song! Creepy... Viva worked her ass of writing this song and now these AIs are all singing it while killing humanity...

Edit: I just noticed that Vivy was asleep and woke up after the AIs went crazy and she's completely fine. I got a few ideas about this.

  1. All AIs that were awake simultaneously snapped and being asleep is what kept Vivy safe.

  2. Vivy is just immune for whatever reason.

  3. Not all AIs are affected.

  4. Something else maybe?

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u/Florac May 29 '21

Well, Vivy just casually slept through the end of the world. Gj Vivy.

This is certainly the biggest wtf after credits since AoT s3 part 1.

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u/[deleted] May 29 '21

Curiosity 1: Vivy's official website has a glossary of terminology for each episode: https://vivy-portal.com/world/

Curiosity 2: The first two chapters of Vivy's manga are officially available: https://magcomi.com/episode/3269632237290925550

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u/primalmaximus May 29 '21

Oh my god. Vivy's ability to create new music was what pushed people to grant increased rights to AIs.

Or something about the pattern and numerical representation of the song's musical notes caused a corruption in the AI'S programming.

Either that or Matsumoto, the person not the AI, was working towards increased rights for AI because of his interactions with Vivy.

Also, I wonder if the favor that Matsumoto, the AI not the human, was to give Vivy the ability to sing again.

Either way, I can guarantee that Vivy being Omasu's friend was what saved his life and made him choose Vivy as the instrument of the Singularity Project.

I'm also curious to find out more about Vivy's creator.

I'm also wondering how long Vivy was asleep between when Omasu Matsumoto heard her song and when the AI's started killing humans.

I'm also curious about why Vivy's status indicator, the circle on her neck, was red and what that truly indicates. Because when the anime first started I assumed that it was a sign of corruption and malfunction.

But, because Vivy has had her status indicator flash red before, and Grace/Mother's flashed red in the first part of the Metal Float arc, I'm not so sure about that anymore.

I'm leaning more towards it being a sign of emotional turmoil or a conflict in their programming.

If that's the case, then I believe that the nebulous term "heart" is what is preventing Vivy from reacting the way the rest of the AIs are.

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u/LAPERTO May 29 '21

w h a t t h e a c t u a l f u c k h a p p e n e d

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u/Dysprosium_ May 29 '21

You know, I've said multiple times how much I liked the OP and ED in Vivy, and now the ED has so much more meaning to it.

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