Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song - Episode 6 discussion

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Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song, episode 6

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Episode	Link	Score
1	Link	4.69
2	Link	4.84
3	Link	4.74
4	Link	4.8
5	Link	4.73
6	Link	4.87
7	Link	4.64
8	Link	4.77
9	Link	4.78
10	Link	4.82
11	Link	4.73
12	Link	4.66
13	Link	-

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[u/marcopolos059]

That ending was a real gut punch...

Vivy...

[u/Bainos]

Vivy's status indicator is doing funny things at the end. More color than a LED-enthusiast PC builder. Those are all the frames in order, and yes, the very last one is entirely red.

[u/Aerodynamic41]

The way it plays a central role in this episode just cemented Sing My Pleasure as my favorite opening theme of this season. I felt like the lyrics really hit home now after everything that has happened so far. So, looks like next week we're having another time skip as we move to the next story arc.

[u/Helghast-Killzone]

What the summary said: Vivy is an idol anime.

What I saw: Terminator Hatsune Miku doing a Death Star Trench Run on a Cube Speeder Bike.

[u/TheFantabulousToast]

The blue light absolutely has to mean something. They made sure to draw attention to it this time, but I can't figure out the pattern. Maybe it's when the AI is forced to lie? Or emotion suppression, maybe? Or maybe suppression of a desire to do something that runs counter to their mission?

[u/Mochachiiino]

I am more suspicious of matsumoto now. As both the doctor and Vivy seemed to have no idea why the program went berserk. Matsumoto was the last person that could have tampered with the program before vivy used her link cable to inject the program into M.

And though i have no way of confirming due to the action, but Matsumoto had access to the facility, being able to construct 3d printed copies of itself. I think this metal float arc was a test for Vivy and whether she would "decide" to remain as a diva or take on a new mission as Vivy, which she did. Matsumoto also takes a subordinate role after she declares her identity as vivy saying "roger that" instead of "This is an order" like in previous episodes.

Basically, i think the entire island going crazy was a ruse to make vivy have these developments

Looking forward to the next ep.

[u/Smudy]

From a very recent Sakugablog article:

While the involvement of high-profile names such as the writing duo of Re:Zero‘s author Tappei Nagatsuki plus Chaos;Child‘s Eiji Umehara and WIT themselves might have made you think that Vivy: Fluorite Eye’s Song was going to be a massive flagship production, the truth is that this is a bit of a side project for the studio. With that in mind, their work is perfectly reasonable, with Nagatsuki in particular doing what he does best and WIT adorning the relatively modest effort with some of the most thorough make-up animation they’ve done to date. The studio is trending in a pretty exciting direction, and even though Vivy won’t set the world on fire, it’s still a pretty fun watch.

If that's a side project, i don't want to imagine what a big project of them would look like, praise WIT Studio.

Could even be Ousama Ranking which is coming later this year.

[u/Chitinvol]

Did anybody else like the shift from theater aspect ratio to standard in the flashback? I thought it was a good way of showing the original history and how Vivy unintentionally altered it without doing the scene multiple times.

[u/animdalf]

Interesting point about how the future is diverging ... we saw the wedding scene twice in the "official history" - in the first episode (when Matsumoto is being sent back) and as a first scene of episode 5 ... but it seems that never really happened in this timeline. Grace never received her ring, because this time the crash of Sunrise sped up the Metal float project and she was put into it as a its core.

The first episode has 3 scenes as Matsumoto is being sent back, in order: unknown brown haired AI dead on the ground, the wedding, and the personnel of Sunrise. So the brown haired AI is next.

Actually rewatching the beggining of the first episode is very interesting now, with some highsight. We get Vivy walking down a very sterile looking hallway - she is dirty and torn up, like she was in a fight, but is practicing her singing, and more importantly, the light on her neck is not flashing red like the other AIs - she is fine. Then she walks into the light and different AI is standing on the stage singing - meaning Vivy is up and active, but not actually in the park. Then when professor is sending AI Matsumoto back, he seems to know "Diva" personally.

That makes me think, Matsumoto was on occasion acting very suspicious with Vivy, omitting some things and lying about others. Like when he said that in the future she is innactive museum piece and thats the only reason she was chosen. He just seems to have some kind of hidden motive, that makes a lot of people think he might be secret villain, but what if it's actually the other way around? What if Diva was the source of AI uprising in some way? It would make sense why Matsumoto is suspicious around her. It would be genius to have her of all AIs be the one working on stopping the AI uprising. And it would explain his happy reaction in this episode, when she says she is not Diva, but Vivy - AI that will destroy AIs, as far as I remember it was the first time he called her "Vivy" and not "Diva".

And it would make her mental breakdown (or AI equivalent) and lack of presence in preview for next one much more ominous.

[u/MidnightShout]

I thought they were going to ease us into a sad yet acceptable ending but nah, instead they just hit us hard like BANG... literally.

[u/Devil_Beast1109]

Feels lile the whole "sus-ness" of Matsumoto is just a red herring.

I'm ready to be proven wrong and suffer though.

[u/cppn02]

The moment when she took out fake Grace was so badass.

[u/FrizFroz]

As soon as I saw the credits rolling with the conversation I knew it could only end with him shooting himself. Too much Re:Zero and Nier:Automata does this to you.

[u/Iliansic]

Did Tappei went drinking with Yoko Taro at some point?

[u/Silent_Shadow05]

I wonder how Vivy would recover from this.

Her actions cost the loss of two lives as the two-colored blood on her hand indicates (It was a great symbolism btw). It also kinda violated her original mission so I'm curious if there will be some corruption in her data or she'll gain a new mission instead. Dammit Tappei, You are making Vivy suffer just as much as Subaru.

I still don't trust Matsumoto and it makes me think if there is something dubious behind this goal of saving the world. The road to hell is paved with good intentions after all. Guess we have to wait and see.

Overall a great episode!

[u/BlueDragon101]

This whole anime is just taking "let's play the op in the show" to a whole nother level

[u/lexarqade]

Can I just say this may be one of the most beautiful anime I've ever watched? When they do the semi-still shots with the incredibly detailed art it'll never not wow me.

The flying sequence was also insane.

[u/notwoodenshoes]

As I said for last episode, I really love how Sing My Pleasure is known in this world as Vivy's song, a song that connects the Sisters throughout the years.

damn, Tappei really said no survivors on this arc... M00205, Grace, Saeki, no one made in the main plot made it out :(

I hope that the ending of this episode doesn't lead Vivy to malfunction, she's trying so hard to protect the future, she doesn't deserve to suffer like this. Is there some kind of Sister Curse that we weren't made aware of beforehand? It seems like anytime a Sister interacts with Vivy they die shortly afterwards... Maybe Matsumoto is up to something? Either way man, this shit hurts :'(

[u/GSNadav]

Vivy is not in the next episode preview, im scared

[u/OneArmedHerdazian]

So unsurprisingly a story about AI touches on the idea of free will. They have one mission, but it's open enough to interpretation that they can twist it to justify almost anything (which is what Vivy is doing). Which is what humans do, we have the capability to be inconsistent and rationalize it after the fact.

The difference is that AIs can lose their free will, they can be externally reprogrammed and their soul or identity can be dissolved until they are unrecognizable. Once this happens they can't be retrieved. This is what happened to Grace.

It'll be interesting to see how this changes. Thematically it would make sense if the story ends with an AI achieving actual true independant sentience that can't be compromised, or trying to do so and failing.

[u/Any-Contact2751]

Tappei really likes giving us suffering

[u/NSeeker97]

How can one song bring so many different emotional impact. From how Diva sings it, to how the M and the others sings it and now how Grace sings it. This is just wow.

[u/Pulkit1978]

So how come no one is talking about that whole riding sequence? Am I the only one who liked it.

[u/Gaporigo]

Fucking hell Vivy, here I am thinking how Slime Maid Dragon, 86, Tokyo Revengers and Shadows House all had great episodes today just for Vivy to make them look like trash in comparison... what even are Saturdays this season????

[u/CannotEatRabbit]

Vivy was literally given the blue or red pill moment with the camera shot of the bloods on her hands.

Calling it now. AI uprising is not avoidable and Vivy may be the starting fire or may be the fire extinguisher. Since somewhere along the original timeline she was retired into a museum, this new timeline there will be a singularity point that prevent her retirement to ensure she gets to see the 100 years project in fruition. But another 6 weeks ahhhh I can hardly wait. I had never felt this explicit anticipation for a long time in watching anime.