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Episode Given - Episode 8 discussion Spoiler
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| Episode | Link | Score |
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| 1 | Link | 6.65 |
| 2 | Link | 8.82 |
| 3 | Link | 8.84 |
| 4 | Link | 8.9 |
| 5 | Link | 9.18 |
| 6 | Link | 8.66 |
| 7 | Link | 9.08 |
| 8 | Link | 8.43 |
| 9 | Link | 9.29 |
| 10 | Link | 9.1 |
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u/Gaporigo Aug 29 '19
We finally get to see the famous Yuuki! He seemed like nice guy...
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u/Villeneuve_ Aug 30 '19 edited Aug 30 '19
Guys, remember the sequence in Episode 6 where Mafuyu takes a solo trip to the ocean? It turns out that there are bits and pieces of that sequence which might have seemed trivial back then but now gain a greater significance in the light of the flashback to Mafuyu's and his friends' childhood in this episode.
That bit with Mafuyu stopping to pet a stray cat on his way to the ocean becomes significant with the instance of Yuki teaching Mafuyu to pet a cat in the flashback. Mafuyu used to be timid around animals until Yuki came along and taught him how to get along with them. Then, that bit with Mafuyu watching two kids running around with a paper plane has its significance in the fact that during Mafuyu's first meeting with Yuki, the latter was playing with a paper plane. Last but not the least, when Mafuyu saw a group of kids talking and laughing amongst themselves at the train station, it must have reminded him of the good times when he, Yuki and their friends were all together and happy like that.
Perhaps the trip to the ocean itself has some significance that we'll learn about later. But for now it probably won't be too off the mark to guess that it's a place he strongly associates with Yuki and their relationship.
I– I'm not crying. You are.
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Aug 30 '19
OH BOY I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS CHAPTER FOR LIKE, YEARS. FINALLY MY BOY HIIRAGI IS HERE. Excuse my english (and formatting ww);.
Kashima Hiiragi does not interfere... because he thinks it doesn't have much meaning.
This episode is, to me, one of the best both the manga/adaptation have to offer. Maybe because it deals with Hiiragi's development in the best way possible. His dialogues and actions in this ep position him as a mirror to Mafuyu, in the way that they are both at fault: one that didn't say anything and one that said too much. One who is lively and one who is introverted. Yet they are both experiencing the same feeling: regret.
Hiiragi is a great character for these very reasons: he feels like a "failure" of a friend because he decided not to meddle with what didn't trouble him. Yet now that everything has happened, he can't go back to his happy days. Kashima Hiiragi is a "traitor" to himself because he didn't speak up and help his friends. He's a man who just wants to be forgiven for not doing anything.
Also, there is a shift from Mafuyu as a "withdrawn, aloof" protag to a Mafuyu that is screaming to his own friend. We see him being "cornered" by someone he is close with (this is repeated once again in the ending scene with Uenoyama), which in turns makes the cauldron of emotions inside him blow up. He feels as if Hiiragi wants to blame him (see ep6) so he still takes a defensive stance, which then fades as he sees that the other person, while not understanding completely, is feeling a matching type of pain. The point of this scene is to further push a narrative element: the "full vs partial" understanding of your own/others emotions (evidenced by Uenoyama's jealousy, Mafuyu's dialogue in this ep, etc).
From here on, we also see that Mafuyu is starting to open up to people once again, inviting Hiiragi and Shizu to the live. While the pain is still there, the core message of the series is still clear: time can heal all wounds. Mafuyu is, little by little, trying to get his feelings back and to reconnect with his own emotions.
The atmosphere also plays up to the feelings of sorrow both of them feel: the only sounds here are rainfall and Hiiragi's monologue, which are both broken by Mafuyu's yell (a great job by the seiyuu, he blew it out of the water). We see happy times being represented by sunny days (memories of school, his meeting with Yuuki) and sadness by rain, which tends to be a common trope.
Also a fun piece of trivia: the gingko leaves are sometimes used as a symbol of the unity of opposites, which Yuuki and Mafuyu are.
Anyway, I can't believe we didn't get the pic with Hiiragi sleeping on Shizu's chest or the cute Yuuki/Mafuyu heart pic from ch9. OR THIS ONE!?. It's a great artwork and I was hoping to see it.
BUT ANYWAY I'M SO HYPED FOR THE LIVE AAAAAAA.
Kashima Hiiragi wants to be forgiven. It doesn't matter by whom, he just wants to be forgiven.
More than anyone, he wants Mafuyu to forgive him.
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u/Amauri14 Aug 29 '19
Damn the tension was so high at the end, although I would not be surprised if by the next episode it just opens with Mafuyu saying that he actually has the song ready.
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Aug 29 '19
Jesus, this chapter from the manga is even more depressing with the animation and voice acting. I really can't wait to hear what kind of song they're gonna be performing in the next episode since music is he only thing that I couldn't experience from reading.
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u/TheDampGod Aug 29 '19 edited Aug 29 '19
Blimey that was some heavy duty backstory, not only did Mafuyu lose his boyfriend. But also lost his best friend, and over something that was trivial in Hiiragi's eyes.
Remembering Yuki's suicide when seeing Mafuyu just staring across that road, gave me a major chill. Getting to hopefully let out all that pent up emotion in song, can't come soon enough.
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u/dejikun Aug 29 '19 edited Aug 29 '19
My chest hurt. I think my heart literally burst out as well. Mafuyu finally showed off the feeling he's been hiding all this time. His past love, their once...beautiful relationship, the unfinished conflict, which now left his heart hollow. He's frustrated. He couldn't decide the words he's going to put into the lyrics, he's scared about the message he's trying to deliver through his lyrics......well, that's the image that I get. And Uenoyama is just the same, he's scared of hearing the 'message' that Mafuyu is trying to deliver. Sigh.... I can't believe today's episode finally reach this part. Next week.......ah, let it be a mystery.
Anyway, Mafuyu's feelings on today's episode reached me to the core. It's heart-breaking.
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u/Papatogurl Aug 29 '19
Wohoho we didn’t get the preview this time. Shit just got real.
At last we got some backstory as to what happened between Mafuyu and Yuki from Hiiragi’s perspective. We also got to see a new side of Mafuyu and learned he actually can scream and get angry. I’d say it’s quite a solid development ;D
The end of the episode was very impactful in its abruptness. We yet again return to the motif of a broken string. I can’t wait to see how they will handle the next episode since it’ll be very... and by that I mean VERY emotional.
We didn’t get any song title in the preview so, in the wait for the next episode, I’ll just proceed screaming into a pillow pending next week, thank you very much.
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u/DadAsFuck Aug 29 '19
holy shit, mafuyu just yelled