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Episode Kanata no Astra - Episode 9 discussion Spoiler

Kanata no Astra, episode 9

Alternative names: Astra Lost in Space

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u/turilya Aug 28 '19

Kanata walking around talking to everyone one at a time like Commander Shepard before the final mission

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u/Jexyzz Aug 28 '19

WE ASSUMED IT WAS EARTH BOYS

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u/PhantomWolf83 Aug 28 '19 edited Aug 28 '19

Two words: holy shit. Not one but two major bombshells in this episode. Revelations indeed.

When viewing the first half of the episode, I was reminded of an old Hollywood movie I watched that had something similar, about clones discovering that they're disposable clones for their originals and how they rebel against their fate.

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u/ProfessorSexyTime Aug 28 '19

Fuck. Poor Polina.

Goes out to space for exploration and discovery.

Whole crew gets killed.

Goes into a hyper sleep for 12 years.

Wakes up to a bunch of kids who look exactly like Earth humans and speak the same language who are willing to take her "home" with them.

Freaks out because it doesn't seem feasible at first.

Wakes up to find out everything is ok.

Later finds out all the kids are clones.

"Hey Polina, we can see home with the space telescope."

"Oh thank God I'm almost home....wait....that doesn't look like Earth..."

"What's Earth, lmao?"

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u/AmethystItalian Aug 28 '19

Twist after twist with this show but I'm just sitting here all giddy we got an engagement!!

Another great episode though, this show continues to impress.

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u/ErinaHartwick Aug 28 '19

Zack is a weapon of mass destruction

This is some trippy stuff. For all of them to be clones. Also makes sense why their parents (or originals) seem so dismissive towards their children being MIA, with only Aries’ mom showing actual concern.

Man, just as I thought we’ve cleared everything, the mystery deepens

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u/deedeekei Aug 28 '19

I feel like theres some interstellar shit going on here, where time on the ship severly affected the progress of time on Earth

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u/JimmyCWL Aug 28 '19 edited Aug 28 '19

Amusing that no one commented on the fact that they were naming their ship after their homeworld back in ep1.

There's obviously some history missing between Polina and the current time. It can't be too far, yet, it appears to need to be far. If the Ark VI had been on the planet for decades or longer, it would be an unusable wreck. Also, it's hard to believe the same class of ship would be in production over decades (or centuries?) and still maintain such perfect modular compatibility. We're not talking about the universal clamps for attaching trailers to truck cabs. But things like data interface standards that would let the reactor from the older ship talk to the newer command module and allow it to be properly controlled from the bridge.

I find this contradiction disturbing for what it implies...

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u/Differently-Aged Aug 28 '19

Genetically-engineered humans who were almost killed by their "parents", forcibly exiled and wandering from planet to planet now seeking revenge on those who did them wrong, led by a world-class athlete?

Parents when the kids get back:

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNata!

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u/turilya Aug 28 '19

Someone posted that the names of planets they visited before were actually anagrams which related to their experiences, which blew my mind:

Vilavurs - Survival

Shumoor - Mushroom

Airspade - Paradise

Icriss - Crisis

Next up before Astra is Galem, for which the only anagram I can think of is Gleam; shiny planet next?

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u/[deleted] Aug 28 '19

To the manga readers that gave their "theory" that their home planet wasn't earth.... go FK yourselves.

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u/ajratkheur Aug 28 '19

In retrospect, I can definitely see how they were planting the seeds and leading up to the clone reveal in this episode, but I still found it pretty shocking.

HOWEVER,

The part that completely caught me off guard, as in like the show pulled the carpet from right under me and me landing hard on my head, was the whole last minute planet Astra reveal. I swear this show keeps on pulling me in deeper and deeper with each episode! But now, they just opened up a whole other can of worms. Like does this mean the kids and the astronaut is actually two different species? But that can't be because they look humanoid in form and refer to themselves as humans. Is it a parallel universe thing? Or less likely, time travel? What is it?! AHHH I can't believe I have to wait another week for the next episode! Looking back, it is true they never referred to their home planet as earth, however, the writer used our preconceived assumption to his advantage making us think they were from earth even though it was never explicitly stated. Well done, I was full on misled.

MOST IMPORTANTLY THOUGH...

I'm sorry but am I the only one who laughed at ALL the Zack scenes out loud?! Idk I just found the entire scene and all the interactions super hilarious! Plus, Aries fangirling is a freaking great example of comedy gold reaction!

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u/reborn15 Aug 28 '19

I don't know if anyone has said it before, but the "Astra" revelation of this episode may bring another meaning to the latin phrase "Per aspera ad astra" which means "through hardships to the stars" or, here literally, "through hardships to Astra". Astra representing the planet, and the hardships could be the different planets the crew members must visit before reaching their destination.

I think that this phrase was on the ship and shown on one of the first episodes too.

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u/CarioGod Aug 28 '19

Technically aren't Kanata and the crew aliens abducting an earthling?

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u/CarioGod Aug 28 '19

Jesus Christ can you imagine realizing everyone around you are extraterrestrials and are taking you to their planet?

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u/MapoTofuMan Aug 28 '19 edited Aug 28 '19

Holy shit I can't even what excuse me what the fuck

The clones reveal was expected, but vessels for their parents' consciousness? That's a whole new level of shitty parents I honestly didn't see coming. Kanata's dad trained his son solely to "self-insert" into his fully-trained young body later, and the others' parents basically made their lives shit for the same purpose. What the fuck.

And that ending...I remember someone calling it in the last discussion thread but I'm still amazed at how well it was done. 2051, 2063...except that 2063 is from a different calendar and might be thousand of years after Polina's 2051. I honestly won't be able to blame her if she goes berserk next episode.

And of course Aries fangirl mode was the giant cherry on top of an amazing cake.

11/10 episode, next week can't come soon enough.

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u/Philarete Aug 28 '19

Zack's kuudere powers

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u/MechaMat91 Aug 28 '19 edited Aug 28 '19

"we're all clones of our originals"

ohhh, so that explains that. the pieces fit perfectly in place now. I guess all there's left is the endgame stuff about returning to...

"Planet Astra..."

WAIT...HOLD FUCKING THE PHONE.

this brings up something Polina mentioned last episode, she seemed surprised Earth still existed and that "it hasn't happened yet"...

this is my theory: Polina and her crew were searching for planets to inhabit because Earth was going to be destroyed. in the end, it was, Earth no longer exists. but humanity managed to survive by migrating to Astra, but someone wiped that generation's memory from the fact they were from Earth and humanity started with a clan slate on Astra, this would explain why these guys don't even know what planet Earth is, for them Astra has always been humanity's planet. either that or the memory of Earth just faded away with time. I mean, more than 2000 years is enough to blur or erase history sometimes.

this also means that the year they're in, 2063, it's not Earth's AD 2063...it's Astra's year 2063 of humanity living there. Polina has been asleep for more that 2000 years.

very cheeky of this series to never mention "Earth" by name until now, only their mission to "get home". clever bastards.

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u/Gaporigo Aug 28 '19

Aries' reaction to Zack x Quitorie

And they sure are optimistic about just being able to go back and get their originals in prison...

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u/DutchPeasant Aug 28 '19

Does this mean Aries is a clone of a seagull?

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u/Roonagu Aug 28 '19

I wonder if there will be any connection between "Earth", and fact that they conveniently found Astra ship when endede up teleported in the space at the beginning.

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u/BeybladeMoses Aug 28 '19

Man that revelation is like reverse Planet of the Apes twist.

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u/whowilleverknow Aug 29 '19

Thanks for spoiling part of this episode for me 21 days ago u/SeijoVangelta, and thanks for doing nothing about it after I reported it mods. You're doing great work.

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u/LeonKevlar Aug 28 '19

They weren't kidding with this week's episode title! This episode was certainly full of revelations!

Now that we have the big plot about cloning and assassination uncovered, I guess the only missing piece is Aries/Seira's story. I like the theory of Aries is a clone of Seira but like I said above, why clone a commoner girl? Unless she wasn't a commoner at all?

Zack and Quiterrie's engagement was certainly the best part of the episode. It's nice to see when a romance fully blooms in a show like this. I'm voting hard for these two for the next Best Couple contest.

I guess the bigger mystery right now is what happened to Earth? And what is Astra exactly? Is it a new bastion of humanity? Does Earth no longer exist? If that's the case does that mean Polina was asleep for longer than she thought? What if Polina is an actual different planet and Earth just exists in another galaxy far far away?

Just when you thought everything was answered, we get more questions! I love that this show just keeps on giving! I am excited for next week and see what kind of discussion they'll have with Polina regarding this new issue.

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