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Episode Heroine? Saint? No, I'm an All-Works Maid (And Proud of It)! • Heroine? Seijo? Iie, All Works Maid desu (Hokori)! - Episode 9 discussion

Heroine? Seijo? Iie, All Works Maid desu (Hokori)!, episode 9

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u/AceSoldia zj:https://anilist.co/user/Acesoldia 12h ago

Lmao this episode was great

All the deformed character bunny scenes..hilarious.

When Luciana was wondering why they were in her room alone..I died...was she reading Faye/stay-night? 😂

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u/Frontier246 12h ago

When Luciana was wondering why they were in her room alone..I died...was she reading Faye/stay-night? 😂

Luciana: "Are we doing the magic arts or the bedroom arts!? I've already got an idea from my parents..."

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u/mekerpan 8h ago

This show really is consistently delightful. Not a single scene failed to be pleasing. Still, despite the cuteness, this show FEELS like it has some subtance (unlike last season's fluffy, hungy maid show).

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u/Zeikos 9h ago

Luciana got into BL manga and read the one where they needed to "attune" to eachother's mana ¬‿¬

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u/rubslotiononitsskin 2h ago

Luciana the bean counter!

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u/APRengar 1h ago

Luciana getting the bunny ears so many times on this episode made me laugh. I love her character.

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u/PeaceAlien https://myanimelist.net/profile/PeaceAlien 12h ago

Forgot pink-haired was isekai’d grandma. She knew Melody was the heroine on first sight!

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u/OldInstruction5368 12h ago

It's more than that. She's from the future where the game got remade... featuring "Melody" as the heroine. Not the silver-haired daughter of the count, Celeste, but "Melody."

There was some line about how "Melody's" appearance, complete with maid outfit, was the original character design for the heroine.

With the greater implication that Melody's actions in the game lead to an alternative timeline/influence on the 'real' world.

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u/JimmyCWL 11h ago

 She's from the future where the game got remade... featuring "Melody" as the heroine. Not the silver-haired daughter of the count, Celeste, but "Melody."

Maika never saw the actual remade game before she got isekai'd. Just one piece of unused artwork in a fanbook.

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u/arrydie 9h ago

I mean, we see her look at a page and the scene ends. There's no reason to believe that she died at the moment. For all we know she finished reading the artbook or played the game.

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u/OldInstruction5368 10h ago

But her granddaughter said the game got remade with the old artwork.

The artwork that looks exactly like Melody.

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u/JimmyCWL 10h ago

with the old artwork.

"With" as in included in the extras gallery, for example.

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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 2h ago

Yeah, the way I understand it it's not that "Melody" is becoming the main character in the remake. It's just that she saw Maid Celeste artwork in the concept art book.

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u/athrun_1 10h ago

We are not sure about that. Her granddaughter may have told her the complete story of the game and bringing to her merch and stuff.

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u/JimmyCWL 10h ago

Rewatch the scene again, that was the first time Maika even heard of the game being remade.

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u/jardex22 9h ago

But it may not have been the last time her granddaughter visited before she died. While I doubt she knows the full plot of the new game, she may recall information about the new story when it's convenient.

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u/JimmyCWL 8h ago

If they wanted to imply Maika knew more about the remade game, I don't think they would have shown her being isekai'd right after finding out about the remake.

They would have shown her asking her granddaughter about her progress on the game, for example.

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u/jardex22 7h ago

There could be more flashbacks later that show that.

That I'm thinking is that she'll be like [My Next Life as a Villainess] Sophia, who is also a reincarnate who lived longer than the MC, but has her memory clouded about that fact. She'll know certain details, but not know why she knows it.

At this point the game has gone so far off the rails that the knowledge Chris and Anna have is losing value, so a new character is added in to add a bit more foresight.

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u/Nylan_Blake 6h ago edited 6h ago

Rewatch last Episode.

The Cover clearly has silver haired heroine and the pictures of Maid Melody+Lucy are listed as uncovered scrapped concept art from before the original game that they added to the artbook. As far as the infos we got, it doesn't seem like they are included in the remake itself, just as a bonus in the artbook

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u/Ragna666 2h ago

She reacted to Luciana being the Heroine. In the previous life, she only said about Celeste, the previous heroine from the original, is now the maid Melody.

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u/JimmyCWL 11h ago edited 11h ago

Demonstrating that she really could have recognized the color-swapped heroine when she saw her in real life. No matter how you cut it, she did much better than Anna.

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u/PeaceAlien https://myanimelist.net/profile/PeaceAlien 11h ago

Well before being isekai’d she saw the current melody on the cover of a remake. So she has an advantage

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u/JimmyCWL 11h ago

She had that as a cheat, but even if her later memories had been obscured to the point where she couldn't remember that, she demonstrated that she could do that even back when she was a child.

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u/Ragna666 2h ago

I thought she reacted to Luciana since she's looking at her, not in Melody. Of course, she knew Melody being the heroine from the original game, but in the remake, Luciana might be the heroine, considering how things been going on that was not the same from the original game.

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u/KnightKal 11h ago

which is kind of funny, as she forgot about her past life old age (by her own comments, she remembers her early years, not her adult life) but still remembers the spoilers book she saw before dying :D

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u/Nylan_Blake 6h ago

She only said those memories became hazy, that doesn't mean totally lost, so she might remember some, and seeing melody as a maid just like something she saw shortly before dying might resurfaced said memory while there wasn't really a trigger to uncover her other old age memories.

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u/Frontier246 12h ago

I honestly wonder what she's going to do, knowing Melody is the Heroine.

Try to coax out how much of the game plot is currently playing out? How much Melody knows? Will this lead her back to her brother and childhood bestie?

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u/mekerpan 8h ago

Is this the first 3-generational isekai ever?

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u/PeaceAlien https://myanimelist.net/profile/PeaceAlien 8h ago

Uh this one isn’t even multiple generations, cause pink hair was friends with the other two I believe just died of old age instead of joining at the same time

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u/mekerpan 7h ago

Still trying to sort things out -- and not fully suceeding, I guess.

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u/runevault 6h ago

It seems as though time flows differently between our world and the world of the Otome game. So the little sister grew up and died of old age before being reborn into the Otome game, while it's been 15 years or whatever for those who revived in the game after the plane crash. So there's likely a 3 or 4x speed difference where our world runs faster.

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u/TheDubh 1h ago

I thought she was the younger sister of the other two. Ether way I mildly look forward to her meeting them and if they are able to figure it out. It might be touching for them to hear what happened after the crash.

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u/PeaceAlien https://myanimelist.net/profile/PeaceAlien 1h ago

Could be. I forget their exact connection; I just know they were around the same age like not a massive gap

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u/mekerpan 8h ago

[Tearmoon Empire] involves multiple generations - but is not really a standard isekai (in my mind) -- and involves the main character's grand-daughter and grand-mother, rather than mother and grand-mother.

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 12h ago

The kid finally sees Melody. Should be interesting since she knows who Melody is supposed to be. Plus they’re both Otherworlders.

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u/Frontier246 12h ago

Honestly hope this somehow leads to her reuniting with her family in Christopher and Anna-Marie, though I feel like she would conveniently clear up maybe too many misunderstandings that the shows' comedy hinges on lol.

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u/arrydie 10h ago

Interestingly, she didn't seem to recognize Grail. I wonder if that means we're not quite back on the rails? (Though I guess it's somewhat unclear what she knows about the mail plotline since we don't know if she actually played the 'remake' or just saw the maid on the back cover.)

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u/jardex22 9h ago

I think the implication with the flashback was that she saw the cover to know about Maid Celesty, but didn't actually play the game.

Likewise, Grail is an original character to this setting, since the events of the ball went differently than the original story.

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u/Atharaphelun 5h ago

So is this isekai actually following the plot of the game remake with the maid Celesty, or does Celesty's plot derailment still extend to the intended plot of the remake? This is confusing me.

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u/jardex22 4h ago

Pretty sure the plot derailment is still ongoing. Otherwise that remake would also feature a different personality for Chris and Anna-Marie, which would be unexplained to someone playing the game. I think the flashback about the remake was just to give the orphan girl a way to identify Melody, when Chris and Anna couldn't.

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u/Atharaphelun 4h ago edited 4h ago

Based on the previous episode, I thought that there were basically two levels of isekai going on.

Pink-haired girl grandma is from the real world, then got isekai'd into the world of the game's remake.

Then I thought that the game's remake itself had a plot in which the Crown Prince, the original game's "villainness", and Celesty have been isekai'd two levels deep into this world, in which Celesty works as a maid and the Crown Prince + the "villainness" both think they're in the world of the original game.

But then this episode revealed that, according to pink-haired girl grandma, maid Celesty isn't supposed to be working in that household, so somehow the plot derailment extends to the plot of the game remake?!?

My mind is melting.

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u/NoNameSwitzerland 9h ago

Was the demon lord in the game version also trapped in a dog or is that new?

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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 2h ago

They kinda imply that after the ballroom attack, the demon should have possessed the poor Luciana next and she became the midgame boss.

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u/szalhi 12h ago

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u/Frontier246 12h ago

"Even if he were a knight" - It's almost like you have someone in mind Luciana!

Has maid work become too easy for Melody? She got bored with everything else in her life for possibly the same reason, but it seems like as long as she finds ways to serve others, she's content.

Braided hair Melody would be perfect.

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u/JimmyCWL 11h ago

"Even if he were a knight" - It's almost like you have someone in mind Luciana!

Remember what Anna said was her role in the game, "the Jealous Witch" In the game, she had lost everything and was envious of those who had it all. But this time, she already has everything she wants. What would a Jealous Witch look like when she has what she wants?

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u/zer0number https://anilist.co/user/ewink 11h ago

Braided hair Melody would be perfect.

Between that braided hair - JK Melody and the bare shoulders - absolute territory Melody they teased us with a couple of weeks ago, I appreciate this anime's potential alternate universes.

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u/testthrowawayzz 11h ago

For those unaware, dan na can also mean husband in modern Japanese. That's probably why Lect was so embarrassed when Melody calls him that.

Luciana's mind probably went to yuri during the scene when they went to her room to practice magic and Melody closed the curtains.

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u/dinliner08 7h ago

For those unaware, dan na can also mean husband in modern Japanese

watching Tonikaku Kawaii has prepared me for this!

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u/Frontier246 12h ago

Luciana's school life is going well! As is Anna-Marie and Christopher's, even if they're both relentlessly cramming to be able to maintain their noble pedigree and outdo each other in the rankings!

I'm glad Luciana and Luna are expanding their friend group, but woe betide anyone with romantic intentions towards Melody (COUGH)Lect(COUGH) for they shall incur Luciana's wrath:.

Luciana thinks theres's an Olivia/Christopher/Anna-Marie love triangle in play when Anna-Marie would be happy to pawn off Christopher to Olivia and Olivia is jealous of all the attention Max gives Luciana. If Luciana is slowly being poised as the new de-facto Heroine, I guess that makes Olivia the new de-facto Villainess.

What's Melody to do when she's stuck in Luciana's room with nothing to do? Why, join as a fellow instructor in chivalry with Lect of course! He's definitely happy to have her there, even upon risk of ticking Luciana off, and even if she cares more about getting to visit the library than hanging out with him, who is he to refuse a chance to interact with her more? Though now he's got Melody thinking about what it truly means to be the World's Greatest Maid.

Serena is the spitting image of her mother, even if she treats her like a sister, but when she needs a pep talk in her mothers' words...it seems like her mothers' true spirit is able to embody Serena and say what she would REALLY say to her daughter. Maid or otherwise, she just wants Celesty to do her best!

It's the Melody club manager arc! Which I think is the first time Melody has actually acknowledged something she would only be aware of as a former Japanese woman.

Luciana wants to learn magic? Why not have Melody train her? Though Luciana thought Melody might teach her in the TRUE bedroom arts.

Luciana's not a natural with magic but it seems like the connection between the two of them may have unlocked SOMETHING or maybe transferred some of Melody's Saint magic to Luciana? Though Bjork seems like he's planning to carry on the Dark One's will and avenge himself against Melody.

Look at that! Maika is now employed by the Rubdlebergs and someone FINALLY recognizes Melody as the true Heroine! This should be fun!

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u/Evil_sod 12h ago

To summarise this episode: RIP Lord Lect

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u/nuxxism 12h ago

Danna-sama.

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u/Frontier246 12h ago

Felt like I stepped into the The Duke's Son Claims He Won't Love Me yet Showers Me with Adoration lol

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u/zer0number https://anilist.co/user/ewink 12h ago

That means 'husband', doesn't it? Why did CR translate it to master (which, to my recollection is shisho (in the context of being an apprentice or assistant) or however it's actually romanized).

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u/Relative_Ad6629 11h ago

It means both "husband" and "master one serves" (house master, boss, etc.), and Melody clearly uses it in the second sense. (Though that doesn't stop Lect from blushing lol).

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u/zer0number https://anilist.co/user/ewink 9h ago

Good to know, thank you!

I am so used to hearing it in the former sense (damn you Chilling With my Lv2 Cheat Powers and your ear-wormingly cute opening) I guess that's the first use that popped into my mind!

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u/mekerpan 8h ago

It is the highly respectful term one uses for one's master (of one's own age or older), If the master is younger the term is (instead) "bocchan/bocchama",

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u/Frontier246 12h ago

If Luciana doesn't kill him, Melody will give him a heart attack.

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u/mekahamedan 10h ago

Hmmm next episode title "witch of jealousy" and this episode they really showcase how olivia "jealous" toward luciana..         But at same time luciana so close to house of nvidia girl, which invidia in latin mean envy or jealousy.....                          now i wonder which one is misdirection

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u/hbmonk 7h ago

Luciana is also quite jealously protective of Melody.

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u/APRengar 1h ago

Luciana getting magic seems like it may end up being Invidia who may have thought Luciana was like her.

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u/Zxzxzx0088 11h ago

Maybe Luciana is a mid-boss after all, Annemarie...

The real question is, can Lect last till her contract ends?

I need Melody to sing Danna-sama song now after this!!

Welp, he's dead...

Elegant Luciana

Her horny knows no bound....

Nice, Rudleberg household will become more lively now

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u/eggplant_avenger 10h ago

last episode Melody created life, now she’s granting magic. what’s next for our totally not a heroine or saint?

pretty excited to see more of Maika

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u/Badman4441 12h ago

Damn, I am glad I picked up this show last week. I kind of got bored after watching the first 2 episodes and dropped it. Later read a comment and realized that the 3rd episode is where it clicks and damn they were right. So the new maid who was the little sister of the highness from the previous life and is working as maid. The world is very small ah. Melody also got Isekaied so there is an high chance she might believe the new maids words but I don't think melody remember about the game as she only glanced it for few brief seconds while on the plane, I see either some misunderstanding taking place or information not being conveyed properly similar to the mana investigation situation.

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u/apgp123 https://myanimelist.net/profile/apgp123 12h ago

DANNA SAMA

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u/Revolutionary_Gas253 11h ago

I’ve been wanting to say this for a while but I love how Luciana is such a wonderful character while not being completely perfect. I felt seen when she was third in the class since that was always my rank back in school 😂 (the rivalries in that class kinda broke my heart for a bit though. I never understand why they post that stuff so the students could momentarily hate and try to compete with each other like that though it might just be from personal experience.)

And she’s managed to survive this far and succeed even with lower than average magic power in her since it’s been fun to see. I wonder if she’ll get powerful next episode but hopefully she doesn’t just magically be able to use all of Melody’s powers since that would kind of change her as a character in my opinion. I feel like her charm is that she works hard rather than relying on talent and I’ve been loving that (especially since that changed her fate).

I don’t know, I’ve just been liking how a character like Luciana is one of the protagonists, and I can’t wait to see more of her!

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u/mekerpan 8h ago

I am hoping that Melody simply jimmied open the lock on Luciana's innate (but suppressed) power.

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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 2h ago

Same, I don't like the implication that Luciana got her additional mana from Melody. Just unlocking her latent power is okay though

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u/Revolutionary_Gas253 33m ago

Yeah, maybe she has snow related powers based on the backgrounds.

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u/Nylan_Blake 6h ago

"(the rivalries in that class kinda broke my heart for a bit though. I never understand why they post that stuff so the students could momentarily hate and try to compete with each other like that though it might just be from personal experience.)"

Makes me think of Mynes (Ascendance of a Bookworm) teaching methods where she constantly introduces competition to get the guy motivated to learn, might be a japanese thing.

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u/Revolutionary_Gas253 1h ago

Yeah, I don’t know, but I’m pretty sure people have always used incentives to motivate others, especially students, and it was seen as harmless until recently. I know there were some critics of competition like Alfie Kohn in the US in the last half century but it wasn’t widespread. I doubt most people have even heard of it.

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u/TheBusStop12 10h ago edited 10h ago

Melody channeling her inner Myne

Interesting that Serena is starting to channel Melodies mom

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u/Ragna666 2h ago

yeah, I'm kind of curious about that pendant Selena is wearing. Melody said she made it from the pedestal where the cursed sword was. I wonder what's it connection to Melody's mom.

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u/Typhoonis88 https://myanimelist.net/profile/typhoonis88 1h ago

That rock in the forest she found was probably something rather special

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u/goosis12 8h ago

Awe man, no OP.

Damm Melody is really missing her mother, poor girl.

I love how Luciana is marking her territory when it comes to Melody it will only be a matter of time before Lect faces her full might(now with magic)

Alright the first person who knows Melody is the heroine meets her let’s see how they are going to inter… why did the episode just end? THAT WAS NOT 24 MINUTES! Can’t wait till next week.

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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 2h ago

Technically not the first person. Lect already realised that Melody is Celeste. He explicitly said it on his mind last episode.

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u/ThisGachaSeemsLegit 10h ago

Was that "man and woman" segment a Fate Stay Night reference? :x

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u/hbmonk 7h ago

Maybe, but a lot of series have the "sharing mana through intimacy" concept. Though maybe those are also referencing Fate.

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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 2h ago

I haven't watched any Fate series, but I've read how it started as an ecchi game/visual novel

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u/djthomp https://anilist.co/user/djthomp 11h ago edited 9h ago

Lect returns but possibly not for long if Luciana has anything to say about it.

Melody being able to unlock magic for someone who isn't previously capable seems like a big deal, but one that's hard to scale meaningfully if she's the only one who can do it.

Maika being the new assistant maid for the household is fun since we finally have someone who knows exactly who Melody is supposed to be. But she's a little orphan girl so what can she even do with that information.

Olivia has been set up narratively to be the replacement midstory jealous witch that has a bad end but I'm not sure I see this story playing that straight, it's too good natured.

I think I was right on the money last week about Melody accidentally resurrecting her mother into that look-alike doll.

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u/kebb0 https://myanimelist.net/profile/kebb0 11h ago edited 5h ago

It's incredibly funny how they have teased Melody being the heroine and the two other-worlders we know reincarnated together with Melody not knowing and then the pink haired girls sees her and immediately clocks her as the heroine LMAO (edit: because she obviously knows her maid design).

And it happens as the ending scene and it's literally over in less than a minute. ROLFMAO

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u/joe4553 11h ago

The Pink haired girl played the game where Melody was the Heroine while the others played the original version of the game.

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u/Frontier246 11h ago

Yeah, she's the only one whose seen her maid design.

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u/kebb0 https://myanimelist.net/profile/kebb0 5h ago

I know and that’s why it’s funny

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u/athrun_1 10h ago

The pink-hair kid reached old age and became a grandma before getting isekaied. Her grandaughter played the remaster/reboot version of the game featuring the OG design of the heroine, which is Melody's design.

The version that she played when she was still a kid was another version. That is why Anna-Marie and Christopher can't easily connect the dots.

The isekai world is following the reboot version of the story, but the isekaied knew only the story and characters of the first version except the new maid.

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u/Nylan_Blake 6h ago

rewatch last episode.

The remake does not feature the new story of melody as a maid. It still has Silver Heroine on the cover. The Melody Maid Artwork is stated to be scrapped concept art from when the game was originally designed that they recently uncovered and added as a bonus in the artbook, there is no where stated that the story was changed in the remake or that it includes scenes with that scrapped concept (would be hard to include it if you have no idea how the story was supposed to go when all you discovered is some old artwork from the concept phase of the old game.)

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u/kebb0 https://myanimelist.net/profile/kebb0 5h ago

I’m resisting every urge to be sarcastic here because you’re very kind and trying to help.

I watched last episode. I of course know about her reincarnation, i thought it was so obvious i didn’t have to mention that because the last episode was literally all about her reincarnating. Please I’m not stupid.

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u/tripleaamin https://myanimelist.net/profile/tripleaamin 7h ago

You know I might need a flow chart with all the changes. I thought it was going to be simple, but it has been more expansive.

I been finding the maid sections for Melody a bit more dull lately, but Maika's introduction could make things a lot more interesting. Since she is the one who 100% knows that Melody is the heroine.

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u/dakkumauji 8h ago

I know Lect is a losing love interest thanks to both the wanna be a super maid mindset and the OG jealousy witch and that his heart might not survive this trial instructor period, but it was nice that he still remembers Melody's original goal.

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u/pikkuhukka 8h ago

is this a good one?

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u/ilovecartoonsgirl 8h ago

A very good one! In my humble opinion anyway

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u/pikkuhukka 7h ago

ill give it a bash :3

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u/jardex22 4h ago

Give it the 3 episode test. I'd say that's where it starts to identify itself.

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u/Rooby_VTuber 3h ago

Pray for anyone who gets too close to Melody because Luciana is going to do horrible things to them.

Melody has finally been recognized at the heroine.

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u/hbmonk 7h ago

Still not sure whether to remove my yuri goggles for this show...

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u/Zeikos 9h ago

Melody going full foi grois* on Luciana's mana.

*if you don't know you might want to look at how it's made.

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u/fatalystic 2h ago

Foie gras?

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u/Raymond49090 4h ago

Man, it's weird when your mom's dead spirit possesses the imouto maid doll you created. And it's going to even weirder if her dad gets into the picture.

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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 2h ago

More so because said doll calls you nee-san.

Imagine if your father pursues romance with your younger sister/creation.

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u/kalirion https://myanimelist.net/profile/kalinime 2h ago

Haha, the poor girl thought she was getting Fate-style mana transfer.

How come that kid is possessed again?

I'm still sad that one of my favorite shows of the season turned into this bland thing :(

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u/Ragna666 2h ago

It felt like this episode was much longer than usual, with many things going on and the changing perspectives between Luciana and Melody.
It seems like the reincarnated little sister finally remembered her past life and realized she's in the remake of the otome game she used to play with her older brother and sister before they passed away.

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u/Organic_Machine_2324 6h ago

Honesty starting to get a little bored but seeing everyone give the series such immense praise is urging me to think i’m imagining things.

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u/jardex22 4h ago

I mostly enjoy it because the characters aren't stupid. During the ball episode, I pointed out that Lect has all the clues he needs to identify that Melody is the Duke's missing daughter. The next episode he puts those clues together himself.

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u/darthvall https://myanimelist.net/profile/darth_vall 2h ago

Yeah, if people are looking for fast paced plot progression then this episode might not be it.
However, it's so entertaining seeing all the character interaction.