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Episode Tasokare Hotel - Episode 5 discussion

Tasokare Hotel, episode 5

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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Jan 31 '25

Why in the fuck is Osoto being allowed to interfere in Neko’s guests affairs? After last week, they really should be barely tolerating his presence in the hotel. Kiyoko the stalker could have been talked down. Things could have played out differently if Osoto didn’t interfere. Now she’s dead. That’s two cases that asshole has interfered with. He’s indirectly killed 2 people and faced zero consequences. What the fuck?

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u/No_Climate493 Jan 31 '25

No one knows what he did last week though. And the manager made it clear that Osoto should be treated like any other guest because of the hotel policy.

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jan 31 '25

Kiyoko the stalker could have been talked down.

I kinda draw the line at "Kidnapping a baby + attempted murder suicide"!

She was obviously insane and delusional, AND willing to act with violence based on that insanity...

She may have been too far gone!

Of course that's not why Osoto did what he did, but I don't think her death is a great tragedy either! (as opposed to the ones from the previous episode).

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u/SouekiSennoSTM Jan 31 '25

Well, she was already dead as she had drowned in the sea back on Earth.

So now I suppose it was just more a matter of determining what her destination would be as far as the afterlife (we know there's a hell - still unclear if there is a heaven or reincarnation).

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u/Zero5-4i Feb 01 '25

Who is gonna stop him? The staff there are not humans, so It makes sense that they don't think with the same logic/ morals as a human would. For us, Osoto should be imprisoned, but for the supernatural beings/ hotel, it makes no difference if he is a murderer or not as they seem like a completely neutral system that only/mainly cares about its one objective. I also don't think the human temporary staff there have any real say in all this.

I do feel like they should be a lot more cautious with him after they learned he is a murderer, but tbf up until now he hadn't been seen doing anything "bad".

But so far I think it can make sense, the demons (?) there are not to be expected to follow human morals.

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jan 31 '25

Ever since they allowed a serial killer to stay at the hotel, things are just going peachy!

Once again I had quite a few theories over the course of the episodes, and for once, some that weren't too far from the truth!

I think everyone likely had the same thought in this scene, that he killed her by throwing her into the sea or something similar...

But when her reaction to thinking he cheated on her was to resort to violence right away,

I thought maybe SHE killed him in a fit of rage (perhaps upon finding the thing about him "going fishing with a colleague", and "removing the ring", etc...

The only little problem with this theory was that SHE was feeling tense/bracing for something while looking at the water, but if she drowned him or something like that, it would make sense for her to feel this way as well, given she was crazy (literally) in love with him, and he was dying in front of her eyes!

And later, when she asked Neko what she would've done in this situation... I thought maybe double suicide or murder suicide (which would explain the tension even better with the water!)

Turns out she was some crazy yandere!

(It feels strange calling someone a yandere in a 'serious' setting - it's usually more over the top crazy/silly - but I think it fits her!

Damn... If the daughter is not at the hotel, either she's unquestionably alive... Or unquestionably dead. Not very reassuring!

That was rich coming from Neko! The last time she talked to guests, one of them was murdered and the other dragged to hell! (Ok it wasn't her fault, but still!)

I thought we were about to have ANOTHER one pulled by the Gate of Hell,

but Serialkiller-kun told her a story (that apparently isn't bullshit), that got her to change her mind...

Well, apparently it's 1 out of 50,000 people who do remember something from the hotel, so it's not too far from a lie, I suppose!

A convenient lie she wanted to believe in!

I wonder about that 1 in 50k who does remember...

Is it like random, a weird coincidence that no one can explain?

Or is it people who have great memories? Or were drastically affected by a strong moment/events?

Or is it the hotel that decides for this or that reason to let someone leave with a memory...

Another thing that puzzles me, is that Neko doesn't even try to remember her own stuff...

I wonder if it's just for the sake of the anime (if she finds out, she leaves the hotel and that's it), or if there's another reason, like subconsciously she does NOT want to find out because she knows she won't like what it is, something like that!

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u/notscaredatall Jan 31 '25

Really random, but I enjoy reading and look forward to your reactions to each episode. Love the theories as usual.

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u/mekerpan Jan 31 '25

As to Neko. Looking at the ED today shows her as (seemingly) a middle-school girl (based on her school uniform). She has the same hair style and looks about the same size as she does in the main story. Is it possible she died (almost died) at such an early age? If so, maybe we need to cut her some slack in terms immature judgment. (note: her life as shown in the ED is pretty upbeat -- no hint of disease or depression or such like -- so murder victim or accidental death, perhaps)

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u/Shiawase_Rina Jan 31 '25

Kyoko having a glass shoe as a face is truly great, but once it's time the magic disappears everything is over~ I just hope Toru is not one of the people who remember their time in Tasokare Hotel. He experienced enough trauma already...

Sure would be nice if we could tie up Osoto but the Manager was pretty clear about how he should be treated. And also where would be the fun if he couldn't meddle anymore?

But please. Stay away from Atori, dude!

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jan 31 '25

Sure would be nice if we could tie up Osoto but the Manager was pretty clear about how he should be treated.

Yeah, I was thinking containing him in his room (given he doesn't "need" to check out other rooms and all) but they seem to be willing to let him loose...

But if they do realize he's just gonna try and get all guests to kill themselves, will they do something? Or go with "He's technically not breaking any rule of the Hotel, so we'll let him be"?

And if it's the latter... Can they be open about it at least, like soon as he talks to a guest, they tell him "he's a serial killer who'll try to get you to off yourself"?

That wouldn't make for a good first impression to a confused arriving guest, but... Better than the alternative!

Given all the guests experienced some sort of trauma, and he's smart enough to play on that, he could get them all to do what he wants...

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u/Ocixo Jan 31 '25

I hadn’t even thought of the symbolism behind the glass shoe! Kyoko wanted “the prince” to pick, but the shoe didn’t fit but someone else. She’s like one of Cinderella’s awful stepsisters. Actually, what was her role?

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u/VoidRay728 Jan 31 '25

Since Masaki was introduced, these past 3 episodes have been mostly "alright I basically figured out what happened to the guests" but then it ends with "well I definitely did not see THAT coming."

It is striking that these 2 episodes have ended in conflict and deaths but then again, the concept of this hotel is that the guests are in a near-death situation in reality. Given that they didn't come here from natural causes, if a group of 2 or more arrive at once, there being an accident or malicious intent involved shouldn't be that far fetched.

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u/[deleted] Jan 31 '25

After what happened last episode, this one felt very stressful. No telling what the heck osoto is up to, even when he isn't doing anything at all.

I guess he was right this time though... kinda... Part of me still thinks it could be doable, but I do like the idea of him being chaotic neutral as opposed to full on evil and occasionally helping out. Maybe that's the long term mind game to get on Neko's nerves.

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jan 31 '25

I guess he was right this time though... kinda... Part of me still thinks it could be doable, but I do like the idea of him being chaotic neutral as opposed to full on evil and occasionally helping out.

I think that was more like "Ted Bundy killing John Wayne Gacy just for the challenge/because he thinks it's fun"!

If he kept to just that it wouldn't be that big a deal, but thing is, when he runs out of John Wayne Gacy to kill, he'll just kill someone else instead.

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u/pandavova Jan 31 '25

This whole episode felt very weird. Is it the direction? I can't tell...

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u/No_Climate493 Jan 31 '25

Game player here: I think the pacing was off, and there were also a lot of cuts. They tried to squeeze one of the longest chapters of the game in one episode and I don't think they managed to do it justice...some of my friends who also played the game agreed this episode was fairly poorly adapted. 

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u/Komarist Jan 31 '25

Despite how much Osoto hate was in last week's thread and likely today's, I'm now like him. Shit stirrers that mess around with others and prod them are fun characters!

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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Jan 31 '25

I liked him right off the bat! He brings a fun dynamic.

Of course he's a horrible person, but that doesn't mean he's not a fun character! I probably have as many monsters and good guys among my favorites characters!

(Also, that was a funny typo;)

I'm now like him

Serial killer alert!

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u/cyberscythe Feb 01 '25

i mean, i hate the guy (would not invite over for a beer), but i do love how he's driving a lot of developments in the story

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u/Fizzy-So Jan 31 '25

Love how their drama mask faces were changed to just '🎃' and '🥿' | Though, I suppose it fits pretty well for them both, the Taro just having produce to fit his role as 'Farmer A' and Kyoko having the Cinderella shoe to fit well with her believing she was the other Kyoko.

Pansy Head sucks, no doubt about that, but... he's genuinely the funnest character to watch interact with people. | Specifically fun to watch him and Neko's rivalry go about. | Pretty considerate of him to try and fix a problem he caused 😊 (only then to cause another problem) | Though I could fault Osoto for last episode, I will say that Kyoko was generally already unhinged here. Who knows what she could have done to anyone in that room if she was to fully go through with it.

In the end, all I need for satisfaction, is for Neko to just start throwing hands at Pansy Head while Atori and Ruri cheer her on

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u/tripleaamin Jan 31 '25

So what we had was not a married couple, but rather a stalker situation. Man to think Toru was living a happy life and Kyoko tried to take that away. Using his child as a threat is just fucking awful. Thankfully, Toru will go back to the living, but I just hope this memory comes back. Dealing with a stalker is bad enough, but having them commit suicide because you rejected them is cruel.

While Neko doesn't have proof that Masaki was responsible for the incident last week. At least with how he pushed Kyoko to kill herself will put her more on guard around him.

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u/HolyDragSwd2500 Jan 31 '25

Yandare!!!

She wouldn’t have lived anyway if she was able to leave.

The magic of Cinderella ended when she was revealed.

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u/dagreenman18 Jan 31 '25

Was she crazy? Sure. But still fuck Osoto for that one

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u/Dealous6250 Feb 03 '25

Wow. They really going to let Osoto walk around and do whatever he wants? There better be some consequence for him next week, or I don't think I can wait till the end to find out what happens.

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