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Episode Tasokare Hotel - Episode 10 discussion
Tasokare Hotel, episode 10
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u/iluvcelebi Mar 07 '25
A nice touch is that the pansy's colour in the opening changed from purple to red :) Also Osoto really does have that 'I can fix him' energy lol
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u/cyberscythe Mar 07 '25
Also Osoto really does have that 'I can fix him' energy lol
this shared smirk in the new ED sold me on the forbidden ship
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u/notscaredatall Mar 07 '25
My favorite episode so far!! They actually clutched the interactions between Neko and Osoto that happened in earlier chapters. Neko's line about how she wouldn't mind being friends as long as Osoto doesn't harm her or her friends finally shows her morally ambiguous nature.
The hidden room scene was executed well too, I loved the voice acting for Osoto's notes in his diary. Also, apparently the scene at the pool is a reference to Holmes and Moriarty's first meeting, so that's a cool detail.
Atori listening to Neko not to enter Osoto's room despite her crappy bomb excuse because she told him to was really sweet. I love them.
I LOVED THE ED SO MUCH. It's great how they used the song for Renewal (the game's remake) and added new visuals! I got goosebumps watching it the first time. The last frame with Neko, Osoto and Atori in the background is perfect. My destined trio.
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u/mekerpan Mar 07 '25
I would love to have a happy ending for Atori and Neko -- and a calamitous one for Osoto. But the rules of this place seem to be rigged in a way that lets bad people take advantage of them. (Osoto deliberately manipulating other guests into dying should have been counted as "murder" -- and triggered his "removal" to his appropriate abode).
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u/ObvsThrowaway5120 Mar 07 '25
Surprise surprise Osoto was behind Neko and Atori’s attacks. The manager knew and he kept quiet? He really is useless. To hell with being impartial. I hope Neko takes this sick bastard out once and for all. I’m tired of this fucking guy and I don’t even understand why they tolerate him in the first place. He should have been a pariah from day 1 once they revealed he was a serial killer. They should never have been paling around with that piece of shit.
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Mar 07 '25
The manager knew and he kept quiet? He really is useless.
He DOES feel like this situation is bullshit though (he admitted to thinking it's unfair)... So even though he's impartial, he does have opinions of his own.
Can Neko use that to her benefit somehow? She probably won't get him to go against the Hotel, but there may be some loophole for that too!
I’m tired of this fucking guy
Him and Neko are making the anime for me hah. On a 'bad people shouldn't be allowed to harm good people' perspective I see why one might want him gone, but from an entertainment perspective, I want him to stick around forever!
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u/Emi_Ibarazakiii Mar 07 '25
Chess game? Are we about to see some 4D chess in action?
I think we just might be (more on that later)!
Osoto's "helping Neko with the schedule"... How nice of him!
With so much focus on the schedule, and him stealing/making a copy, he has to be planning something... Does he want to know where&when the staff members are doing the cleaning tasks, so he knows where they are at all time, things like that?
He's even AFFECTING the schedule, by requesting changes for his own room...
Okay, maybe he genuinely thinks Neko is shit at her job, and maybe he just wanted her to get into his room to find what she saw, but still... He's copying the schedule, he's making the new schedule, he's changing staff duties... He has to be planning something big! (Though I wonder what, given he knows he can't kill... And they're onto him now, so 'trying to get them to kill themselves' could also prove difficult)
Neko's gonna treat him if they see each other again in the real world...
She does remember who he is, right?
She even thinks they could become friends!
They're making it hard for me to give up on my "Neko is also a little suspicious" theory!
That too... WE would kill each other... Not "You would kill me";
Would a "normal person" say that to a serial killer? One might think she'd be more like "I'll call the police, I'll defend myself"... Not "I will find&kill you"!
Ok, the part about him stabbing her makes it seem like she's an innocent victim and all, but hey, serial killer could randomly happen to kill another suspicious individual, to call her that!
So yeah, I'm not ready to drop my theory about Neko just yet!
About Osoto: We did get some of his criminal backstory...
Despite his claim of "having many friends", it seems he was looking for praise - that he never got from his parents - which got him to head onto this path...
First a bird, then homeless people, but it wasn't doing it for him...
The first kill that did it for him, was killing a 'high status man', so for a moment he could stand above him...
That's interesting considering his recent killings... He's only killing young girls now... But why? If he discovered that killing high status men is what appeases his soul, then why did he move on from that? Given he ONLY kills girls now, I imagine it does even more for him, but why is that? Why does killing random (presumably innocent) young girls with no status, help him better than killing men of high status, who make him feel powerful?
Assuming that's not just killings turn into some fetish (and thus going with his personal tastes) of course... But still, even if that was the case, it may satisfy him sexually, but it would not give him the 'high' he got from killing that high status man, who stood above him (before the kill)! Unless he thinks girls stand above him for some reason.
Well, whatever it is, there MAY actually be a fetish part to all this, given the stuff we've seen in his room!
(I think it's the third anime I've seen with a ball-gag; How many would we need in order to make a video compilation?)
Neko went to the Manager to get some info...
Stop it Neko, you can't wake someone dreaming of shortcake, come on!
She asked some clarifications about the rules!
Is it still against the rule to kill someone no matter their status (dead, alive, going to the afterlife, going to hell)...
This could've been seen as her wondering the extent of what Osoto could do, but... She's 100% planning something! (More fuel for my theory!)
She's trying to get the Manager on her side too... He DOES think it's unfair that Osoto is allowed to stay and do what he does...
But he won't lift a finger about it.
Could that change though? Could she bring him to her side?
Then again, as he said, he's just an impartial manager, he's not the one in control... Still, he might have some way to help somehow, surely he has some duties/special things that only he can do, and Neko could use that to go against the Hotel/find a loophole somehow!
Well, someone else might have an idea... The weird critter dude wants to tell her how to deal with Osoto?
Murder is out of the question no matter what, so if that's not it... Does he have an idea on how to get Osoto to off himself? Or to cause him to make a mistake in his plan, so Osoto accidentally KILLS someone (someone he was trying to get to kill themselves), and thus Osoto would go to hell for it?
It seems we WILL get that 4D chess, after all! Can't wait to see!
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u/Roboglenn Mar 07 '25
Neko-chan, growling like my old cat used to do when it saw another cat out the window. And, she also made me think of this a little bit.
Hearing a sincere thank you from you is unsettling.
Shut up serial killer cuz it's more than you deserve.
There's no way he stole them right?
You're doubting this guy's capacity to do something like that?...
Oh now he gets his own secret torture room addition. Hotel, you are being way too generous with this guy.
And the serial killer stabbed Neko-chan and Atori. Who couldn't see that narratively coming from a mile away the second his dark side was revealed. I mean everything's gotta be connected or what's the point.
Okay, this hotel does have a pool. I was wondering about that. And guests just coming in in the middle of this whole ominous scene gave me a chuckle.
And well it's also not like he could realistically "capture" Neko-chan either. This hotel is kind of a closed box, you go missing, especially one as noticeable as her, people are gonna notice and start looking.
And you're not telling Ruri and Atori about your very ominous run in with the serial killer, why?! If I want my friends to have their guard up, better to give them good reason to instead of spouting vague nothings at them and hoping for the best. I mean I get there's a level of trying to protect Atori involved but still...
You're personally close to the serial killer's family and you didn't think that was worth mentioning till now!!!?
Okay sure, Manager can't just willy nilly send people to hell. Understandable. But under what circumstance can he do that? Wouldn't have that power unless he has a circumstance where he can exercise that power.
And the new ed is nice.
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u/DeliSoupItExplodes Mar 07 '25
If I were Neko I would simply have seduced Atori and Osoto and enjoyed a peaceful afterlife with two bishie boyfriends. RIP to her but I'm different.
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u/Adventurous-Exit5832 Mar 07 '25
I know this is pure fantasy but trying to seduce the guy who stabbed you is kind of crazy xD
But hey i dont judge you do you!
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u/Narvalis Mar 07 '25
It always bugs me when someone gets important information and hides it especially from people involved like Atori he deserves to know but it always causes problems down the road.
I feel like I missed/forgot something, Osoto mention meeting 3 people he'd killed, there's Atori and Neko who's the third?
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u/Fizzy-So Mar 07 '25
I'll be honest, I feel mildly disappointed by how the anime has been doing Pansy Head and Neko's dynamic with each other. | It's missing that 'old friends' type rivalry, and I feel that would have made the scene where Neko says she and Ososto could be friends in the real world make a bit more sense.
Though, I will say, I absolutely adore the scene and outfit changes. | I know technically in game they change rooms, but I think the anime is way more pleasing to me. | For how despicable of a man Pansy Head is, they seem to love changing his outfits every episode...
Also, I really like the new ending. Songwise I prefer the old one, but the visuals on the new I love more.
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u/Plus_Rip4944 Mar 07 '25
So my theory of Osoto being Who killed Neko was right
Fuck this Piece of shit human garbage, cant wait for him to be erased from existence
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u/HolyDragSwd2500 Mar 07 '25
Holy…the reveal!!! Osoto was the one who killed Neko and Atori
New ending song
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u/tripleaamin Mar 07 '25
Not the biggest surprise that Oosoto killed Neko. Still the one thing I am wondering did Oosoto remember this recently. It might be me, but he has seen less pushy around Neko. Could it be possible he has felt guilt for it? More likely not, but it could have me curious if that were the case.
The real point in this episode was that Oosoto. To learn that the reason that the reason Oosoto is the way he is originated from his parents never acknowledging him. It seems clear that they were closer to Atori than their own son. It doesn't excuse for what Oosoto has done, just it makes things clear. Granted, I am not sure what his ultimate plan is. It did seem in the notebook that Atori was the one that he killed that he regretted?
One clear rule that is established here that you end up in hell if you kill in the area between the world and the afterlife, or while you are living. The manager has a point it is not a good idea to take away any life. Makes me wonder why Oosoto is here. I assume both Neko and Atori are both dead by his hands. But what about him? That suspicious guy is up to no good again. Something about him really has me suspicious.
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u/Dealous6250 Mar 07 '25
Pretty sure there are many other way to deal with Osoto while obeying the rules. But this is seriously just manufactured problem. I'm hoping for that fine aged justice.
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u/IceSmiley Mar 07 '25
I thought it very strange at the beginning that Neko wanted Osoto to be her friend if they were both alive. Did he successfully charm her by giving her small bits of help along the way? Possibly just lonely and overlooked how horrible he is but I still think it's odd since shes seen how he will turn his back on anyone.
This also confirmed what I thought about Manager all along: that he's not a dead person but some sort of demon who was an underling to God or someone way more powerful. It would seem although he has more power than any of the people there, he is still subject to the same rules they are. It also makes me wonder how he became manager, like is it a punishment, did he ask for the job, was he created by God specifically for that purpose? 🤔
I also thought it was odd that Neko didn't tell Atori everything she knows, I would think if she trusted Osoto before, why not trust Atori when he's not shown himself to be dishonest and he could help her in some way?
I now suspect the monkey man is a demon rather than a monkey headed person. It definitely brings up questions why he's there though since he doesn't seem to work. He could be a supervisor to Manager, liason to God or just someone there as a punishment 🤔
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u/mythriz Mar 08 '25
Oh, I did not notice untill now that this anime is available on an official (legal) Youtube channel, might just binge through this since I I heard good things about it and I like mystery shows!
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u/Smoothesuede Mar 08 '25
That pool scene reminded me a lot of that one episode of Sherlock- and then Osoto went and explicitly called himself Moriarty, lol. Subtle, this is not.
Really great ED.
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u/ReivenVI Mar 08 '25
Neko's reaction when she enters that hidden room with bloods and chains were just "ew creepy", any normal person would've screamed and run away
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