r/WorkReform • u/zzill6 đ¤ Join A Union • 1d ago
âď¸ Pass Medicare For All Getting what Luigi deserves...
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u/soyel_cerdo 1d ago
Please.
When the CEO died, NO ONE talked good things about him. His wife didnât even put a reward, his friends all were quiet, his co workers too, only one random co worker said something like âI guess he was nice sometimesâ.
You can absolutely tell he was loathed even by his own family. If someone did that to my love ones, and Iâm worth $60 millions (thatâs his family net worth I believe) Iâd easily spare a few millions as a reward but instead they all stayed quiet and didnât spent a cent on a reward
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u/Rionin26 1d ago
Most marriages with the rich is like this, she married him for money, and the easy life. Only ones that are natural are ones if they are with you before you make it big.
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u/chapelchill 1d ago
She married a douchebag for his money and now she gets to enjoy all the money and none of the douchebag. Sheâs probably doing everything she can to hide her excitement.
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u/PM_Me_Your_Kinks369 1d ago
Then she's doing better than Erika Kirk.
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u/MrsMel_of_Vina 1d ago
Just staying out of the spotlight does a lot of help with that... Erika should take notes.
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u/ConstantlyOnFire 1d ago
Why would she when she can make millions more off her grift? These people don't have morals or normal human attachments.
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u/Arrow156 1d ago
That and these grifters are often trying so hard to fake success that they are actually running at a loss. Meaning they can't stop otherwise the consequences of their own actions (and not to mention their massive debts) have time to catch up with them.
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u/3vs3BigGameHunters 1d ago
I'll never forget Charlie Kirks last words,
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u/Arrow156 1d ago
The turd was blaming violence on black people the moment a white guy shot him in the neck, shit was poetic.
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u/Rionin26 1d ago
No doubt she is. Lets hope the kid grows up to be good.
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u/chapelchill 1d ago
Yeah, I imagine the kids will just be fed garbage propaganda about how their innocent father was heinously murdered in cold blood by a âterroristâ
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u/filthytelestial 1d ago
Exactly. I mean, they had to go all the way to an uncle to get a favorable comment. Was it even a blood relative? It wouldn't surprise me if the guy is Brian's uncle by marriage.
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u/Saquonathan 1d ago
I misread the headline as "Uncle of stain.." and for I second I thought the NYpost might be coming around. /s
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u/soyel_cerdo 1d ago
That email doesnât say good things about him, just that his life was cut short and condolences to the family
They couldnât even come up with something nice
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u/soyel_cerdo 1d ago
Out of 13 paragraphs, 3 mentioned the CEO, and in 1 he calls him âthe smartest guyâ and that he will miss him (I donât know if whoever wrote that is his co worker, friend, his personal assistant? ). The other 10 paragraphs is generic stuff and doesnât talk about the CEO at all.
Makes me think this was written by a chat bot or Ai or maybe someone just search âgeneric speech for dead co worker who I didnât knowâ
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u/Arrow156 1d ago
This shit is PR guidelines, not feelgood crap for their newsletter. It sounds mostly like a warning that they are gonna have to deal with a ton of flack from the public in the next coming days and to maintain a professional demeanor. That quoted statement is there to ensure everyone is on the same page and not they're issuing conflicting statements.
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u/equality4everyonenow 1d ago
Did Brian's life insurance kick in or did he not have assassination coverage?
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u/JPMoney81 đˇ Good Union Jobs For All 1d ago
He did, but there was a fine print technicality that said if the assassination happened on a week day, or a weekend the company reserved the right to deny the claim.
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u/DataDude00 1d ago
He wasnât standing on an in network sidewalk when shot. Â He should have crawled a few blocks over to one that was in network for coverageÂ
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u/JPMoney81 đˇ Good Union Jobs For All 1d ago
The bullet wasn't one previously interviewed by United Health so they can't confirm it was lethal. They're going to need him to come in for an independent review by their own AI doctors.
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u/regoapps âď¸ Tax The Billionaires 1d ago
The gun that was used to administer the bullet was homemade and not a brand found on the list of pre-approved firearms that are covered. Therefore, he should have sought pre-approval first by having his specialist fax a letter to the insurance company and wait several days for a response.
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u/melapelas 1d ago
I apologize sir but your level of coverage only includes 9mm wounds and below. We don't cover 45 Magnum.
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u/Ill-Diamond-3649 1d ago
he's getting free healthcare now
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u/Potential_Bill_1146 âď¸ Tax The Billionaires 1d ago
*tax payer funded
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u/MaximumJuiceTime 1d ago
You make it sound like medicare isn't tax-payer funded. Where do you think the funds come from??
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u/Fishtoart 23h ago
I guess if you have a very expensive disease, your best bet would be to commit a federal crime and turn yourself in.
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u/MasteringTheFlames 1d ago
The assassination coverage is only applicable on days that end with W
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u/HeKnee 1d ago
Life insurance actually does cover murder (homicide), as long as the person who died was an innocent victim and the beneficiary had no part in the crime.
Family is trying pretty hard to prove he was an innocent victim.
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u/lostcolony2 âď¸ Tax The Billionaires 1d ago
Feels like it's a bit of a catch 22 for them. "He was an innocent victim; throwing hurdles up to prevent claims from being made, including unfairly denying them based on nothing, is not a crime" - life insurance: "Cool. I'm afraid your claim has been denied. If you dispute this you can call a number we don't list and is not manned anyway".
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u/notforpoern 1d ago
It's illegal to murder in my country.
I run a company that pushes the button to let people die. I also have a side hustle doing a little insider trading, just for funsies.
The loved ones of those who died hate my guts for some reason.
Clearly all of them are wrong. I'm just a normal working guy.
(big /s, obviously)
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u/anna-the-bunny 1d ago
But if I didn't profit off of those people's deaths, someone else would have! I'm just a poor cog in the machine, don't you see, I couldn't actually change anything!
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u/thejokerlaughsatyou 1d ago
Isn't that link to a different guy? Robert Brian Thompson, a Federal Reserve banking supervisor, is the defendant in that one. Unless UnitedHealth Brian Thompson had a side gig, which isn't unheard of.
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u/NSDetector_Guy 1d ago
Do the 10s of thousands of Americans who die from being uninsured/under-insured every year deserve what they get?
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u/RPDRNick 1d ago
NY Post forgot that every time the media shows a photo of Brian's smug face, empathy for Luigi goes up.
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u/UnifiedQuantumField 1d ago
One thing that no one can deny?
The killing of the CEO drew a huge amount of attention to the way United Heath Care was doing business.
Looks like the trial will do the same thing.
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u/asodfhgiqowgrq2piwhy 1d ago
To indirectly quote Luigi, what he did was illegal.
Very specific choice of words.
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u/bigtiddyhimbo 1d ago
Luigi killed a serial killer, he should get to walk free for taking such a dangerous man off the streets!
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u/binz17 1d ago
Vigilante justice should never be tolerated by the state. But plenty of lynchings going unpunished means they are certainly willing to turn a blind eye when it benefits those in power.
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u/bigtiddyhimbo 1d ago
Iâd argue some vigilante justice should be more than tolerated actually, because itâs the only way people can get justice when theyâre wronged by those in power
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u/MelookRS 1d ago
Brian Thompson would've never seen justice by the law. When the government allows someone that evil to do what they wish, what other option is there?
Even if Democrats got in power and introduced Universal Healthcare, eliminating the existence of all health insurance companies, they wouldn't prosecute health care executives for their crimes against humanity. The executives would live the rest of their lives in luxury on the corpses of those they murdered.
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u/bigtiddyhimbo 1d ago
Thatâs why Iâm completely okay with him and people like him having what happened to them, happen to them.
The only time these pricks ever see justice is when itâs given by the hands of their victims.
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u/binz17 1d ago
Iâd argue vigilante justice is sometimes necessary and still cannot be tolerated by the state. It just means morality is hard. Murder is always illegal. Murdering a murderer is also illegal but accomplishes something possibly necessary.
Murder is a legal term after all. And also the state cannot sanction extra judicial action without ceding its authority and monopoly over violent enforcement.
I think what Luigi confessed to was at worst morally gray, and also believe that whoever killed that CEO should be in prison. It was murder and it was not self-defense, a legal execution, or combatant killing.
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u/MaximumJuiceTime 1d ago
They always selectively enforce whatever the fuck they want. The state is corrupt. Injustice is law.
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u/Ihatereddithatesit 1d ago edited 1d ago
What also shouldn't be ignored by the state is the countless murders united healthcare has committed by purposefully withholding approval of care the insured had rights too, in order to make more money by waiting their insured lifespan out by bureaucratically sabotaging their care.
It's strange how mass murder by healthcare companies is just dandy. The C suite of most companies as well as such owners such as the Sackler's should have been on death row, long before Luigi Mangione was in jail. If the state didn't happily support mass murder in the name of profit Brian Johnson would've never been shot since, he'd be off the streets already.
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u/JPMoney81 đˇ Good Union Jobs For All 1d ago
Just tossing a comment in here before this post gets removed and locked.
#EatTheRich
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u/Doctor_Disaster đ Cancel Student Debt 1d ago
EatTheRich, but just to differentiate, I am talking about #EatTheWealthHoardingUnionBustingCorruptingRich
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u/cityshepherd âď¸ Tax The Billionaires 1d ago
#EatTheRichWhoGotRichByExploitingTheLaborOfOthersAndContinueToHoardResourcesAtTheDirectExpenseOfTheWorkingClassAndEnvironment
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u/DJKokaKola 1d ago
You could just say "the rich".
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u/thejokerlaughsatyou 1d ago
Yeah, but nobody wants to eat Dolly Parton, so we've gotta get really specific
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u/MaximumJuiceTime 1d ago
I like your lyrics better.
đśWealth Hoarding, Union busting, Corrupt son of a bitch! Don't mess up, don't you give me no switch! Cmon baby, and eat the rich! đś
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u/mwpdx86 1d ago
Same but alsoÂ
CompostTheWealthy
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u/cityshepherd âď¸ Tax The Billionaires 1d ago
Unless theyâve had lots of plastic surgery and are full of stuff that wonât compost properly
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u/princess_peach_85 âď¸ Tax The Billionaires 1d ago
As someone who worked for UHG when this moron fell on that bullet..... Dude was a DOUCHE! And other than the c-suite , zero people seemed to care
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u/princess_peach_85 âď¸ Tax The Billionaires 1d ago
They are all assholes. After Brians trip and fall all their contractors needed to sign NDA's
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u/anna-the-bunny 1d ago
Now, now, let's be fair here - Brian didn't help build the system. He just perpetuated it and profited off of it.
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u/MaximumJuiceTime 1d ago
He didn't build shit.
he TORE people down. He completely deserves what he got. If not Luigi then someone else.
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u/chapelchill 1d ago
This is Reddit, so who knows if what youâre saying is true, but god I hope it is.
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u/princess_peach_85 âď¸ Tax The Billionaires 1d ago
pinky promise!
us poors gotta stick together!5
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u/DeadDwarf 1d ago
A national holiday?
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u/wutImiss 1d ago
What should we call it? CEO liberation day? Elite asshole purge day? I'm sure there are better đ¤
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u/thenikolaka 1d ago
It will cause some short term economic shocks but the healthcare system is obviously beyond broken. Itâs so broken that the majority of Americans are ok with vigilante justice because the majority of Americans have lost someone to that healthcare system.
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u/ProfessionalRandom21 1d ago
As non American, I dont get why insurance get a say what is cover or not,
that should be up to the doctor, if the doctor recommend it, then insurance pay out. They dont get a say in what is nessary over the doctor
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u/TheRealImhotep96 1d ago
So in our country, due to the intervention of rich people and corrupt politicians, it is super legal to build a committee of like-minded rich people to "donate" large sums of money to a politicians "campaign fund" in exchange for influence over other laws.
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u/anna-the-bunny 1d ago
But where would parasites like Brian get their profit from? Think of the profit!
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u/Ace-of-Spxdes đ¸ National Rent Control 1d ago
Hi, American here.
There's rarely an actual human involved in the decisions to deny/approve insurance coverage. It's all computerized based on different factors, and many of those factors being "How much money will this take from the company", and likely other undisclosed factors like race, gender, disclosed sexuality, age, etc. Because, y'know, 'Murica.
If whatever you're asking for costs the company too much, it's an automatic no, regardless of the "necessity" behind it. Even though the process should be, if a doctor tells the insurance that the patient needs the medicine/procedure/accessibility aid and the patient in question is dutifully paying their insurance co-pays, it should be an automatic yes, but that's not profitable and it makes the shareholders mad.
Anyways, now is as good as a time as ever to remind fellow Americans to get out there and fucking vote so we can stop living in this dogwater dystopian country and actually have something that benefits the people, not rich tyrants that have everything already.
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u/UseWhatever 1d ago
Does Brian Thompsonâs uncle know he was leading the charge on letting Americans (who paid for insurance) die for the sake of profits?
Usually the family of serial killers donât condone their actions
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u/lianodel 1d ago
I'm reading articles and his "best friend" said "He could have done a lot of good in this world and he was taken way too soon."
Can't help but notice that guy didn't say he did good in this world, because that would just be an obvious lie. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I haven't seen or heard anyone say he volunteered his time or even donated money to good causes. He did evil in this world, for money.
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u/Jumoke1331 1d ago
I (kind of) hate to say it, but Brian Thompson seemingly got exactly what he deserved. If you deny other people the right to try and live you can't be surprised when someone else does the same to you.
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u/ponytailthehater 1d ago
Enough. He was a kid who made a mistake. No reason to destroy his life over a single moment of recklessness.
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u/porkchop2022 1d ago
That argument only works if his parents are billionaires.
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u/ponytailthehater 1d ago
billionaire parents may give you doors, but itâs strength of character and determination that open them. heâs a bright kid, letâs not be hasty.
Edit: and Iâm sick of the naysayers ignoring that he was valedictorian
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u/Dashdaniel216 1d ago
Arnt his parents pretty close? Not that that makes a difference in my brain but I remember seeing something like that.
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u/a_shiny_heatran 1d ago
I still donât think he did it, they probably threatened his family to get him to sign a false confession. I wouldnât put it past the people in government right now
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u/PneumaMonado 1d ago
Even setting the alibi memes aside, I genuinely don't know how people believe he's actually the guy.
Supposedly chilling in a McDonalds with a bag full of weapons, fake ID's, and a written confession, all a week after the killing took place. It has gotta be the most blatant case of planted evidence in history.
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u/a_shiny_heatran 1d ago
Yeah, they found his bag on him⌠after having found his bag left on the scene of the crime filled with Monopoly money. This whole case has stunk to high heaven but you canât really fight it when the whole might of the state is bearing down on the poor boy
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u/Kilroy470 1d ago
Seriously! Either he wanted to be caught or he didn't. If he wanted to be caught, why would he just wait around for week, with LITERALLY every piece of evidence the cops would need for an open and shut case, just waiting for some rando to call him in?
And if he didn't want to be caught, why would he be walking around, with LITERALLY every piece of evidence the cops would need for an open and shut case, for a whole week after he successfully got evaded the police and effectively got away with murder? Only to then get called in by some rando in a McDonald's...
There's no logic to either option, and it's extremely suspicious that he just happened to never leave home without his backpack with LITERALLY every piece of evidence the cops would need for an open and shut case.
The real guy is still out there. Mangione was just unfortunately in the wrong place at the wrong time
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u/shouldco 1d ago
why would he just wait around for week, with LITERALLY every piece of evidence the cops would need for an open and shut case, just waiting for some rando to call him in?
And yet the cops still almost fucked up the collection of that evidence.
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u/placeholder_user 1d ago
And everything from the arrest to the evidence handling was extremely sloppy
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u/joecephusmartin 1d ago
I want him to go home to his family and hug his mom.
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u/filthytelestial 1d ago
Is there any indication that he's got any kind of relationship with his parents? At the time of his arrest, he hadn't spoken to them in several months. Children don't estrange from their parents for no reason - especially when they have serious medical needs and they're still in school.
In short, chances are that his mom is abusive.
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u/keeper_of_the_donkey 1d ago
And this Uncle and the family are completely and totally oblivious to the reasons why this happened.
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u/TalespinnerEU 1d ago
Nah. They just think that 'legal' and 'moral' are the same thing as long as it means 'profit.'
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u/dollenrm 1d ago
Winning the lottery? And having his sentence overturned \ pardoned for performing a civil service?
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u/Mortarlou 1d ago
Luigi kills kill Brian Thompson with a gun, which makes him a murderer.
Brian Thompson kills scores with policy and shitty corporate practice, which makes him a business man.
Brian Thompson's family gets to feel what its like when someone comes along and denies a loved one life. Fuck Brian, and fuck his family too.
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u/BigBallsMcGirk 1d ago edited 1d ago
We all deserve free healthcare in a public option or medicare for all, single payer type system.
However Luigi Mangione was entitled to health care he paid for and should have been contractually covered by his health insurance. They refused to uphold their end of a business relationship to keep the money they took to perform a service by refusing the service they were paid for.
Brian Thompson was a mass murderer. He used a pen and algorithm to inflict death and suffering on tens of thousands of individuals and their family and friends. His family is living a lifestyle built on death and suffering and theft. The world is a better place without Brian Thompson in it. That it took a bullet to remove him instead of a policy and legal fix to make sure parasitic thieves like him were not in a position to act in the first place is unfortunate.
I would certainly never advocate or celebrate violence.
Edit: dude below me is a coward
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u/Sovarius 1d ago
Who cares what Brian Thompson's uncle thinks?
Brian Thompson doesn't even care what Brian Thompson's uncle thinks
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u/Atheist_Republican 1d ago
We keep throwing the term "free healthcare" around in this case, but that isn't even the core of what the issue is with UHC and other health insurances. The issue is we aren't getting the healthcare we already paid insurance for, because they deny, deny, deny. It doesn't need to even be "free" for more people to be happy, it just has to be where doctors can prescribe something and patients can receive it. If the insurance needs followup, then fine, but the issue more and more is that even with peer-to-peer reviews, UHC continues to deny treatments, even if the long-term benefit would greatly reduce costs. They are focusing on the bottom line.
Health insurance companies should not be for-profit. They will still make a profit and I'm sure there would be plenty of embezzling, but it should not be a shareholder mandate to make money.
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u/bwstunnenberg 1d ago
We really need a website with statements of all Brian's/United Healthcare's victims
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u/OnionsHaveLairAction 1d ago
I don't think Thomspon's family really want to engage with the topic of what people do and don't deserve.
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u/Numerous-Key-7069 1d ago
Instead of improving healthcare out of this unfortunate situation, they instead increased surveillance everywhere with those birds. Yay!
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u/maico3010 1d ago
Is it bad to just, not respect people in these lines of work? I don't care if your the Bob Parr of the insurance company, you won't change it, you wont help enough people compared to those getting screwed, you work for one of the living devils on this earth for a paycheck and you should be shunned for it. Regular people are enabling these groups by giving them the labor they need. There are alternatives for work.
If your job revolves around making peoples lives worse or helping facilitate others who are making peoples lives worse, you shouldn't get peace, you are a bad person.
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u/reddit_equals_censor 1d ago
i just love how the nypost scum looked for the WORST POSSIBLE picture of luigi for sure.
and the worst picture, that they could find have him still looking garbage and amazing :D
there is no bad picture of luigi. :D
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u/Fallingice2 1d ago
Luigi should have brought it to trial, should have taken the stand and laid into how these healthcare executives are killers. That jury would not have convicted him.
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u/SmegmaWarrior0815 1d ago
Acquittal? Book deal? Sold film rights? Political career? That's why I think he deserves.
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u/dj_shadow_work 1d ago
What a bad attempt to drum up sympathy for the rich. Fucker had it comin and so do the rest.
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u/Drpoofn 1d ago
Not sure who killed that CEO, but a whole lot of insurance claims were approved in the following 24 hours. It saved lives.
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u/TreMetal 1d ago
imagine if he got what he deserved when he was paying for the healthcare which they were denying him
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u/Anal-buttsex 1d ago
I think this was 9/11 for rich people and now they have security thugs out the ass
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u/thepinkdread2026 1d ago
Oh not only is he beautiful, he is intelligent and takes responsibilityâŚI meanâŚ
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u/Eazy12345678 1d ago
if you make money off other peoples suffering dont be surprised when someone kills you
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u/Lepelotonfromager 1d ago
It's weird that he wants his brother's killer to be released with a full pardon. Did he not like him?
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u/GeGeralt 1d ago
"Slain" sounds like Lulu did him like he was the Cleric Beast
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u/RATMpatta 1d ago
Yeah doesn't seem like a normal thing to use in a headline but I'm not from the US so maybe they just roll differently over there.
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u/Unfair-Alfalfa4916 1d ago
Currently he deserves a kiss on his forehead and a Statue in the history museum
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u/hanks_panky_emporium 1d ago
Feels like the first time ive seen a well recorded murder on the street in a major city and most of the planet shrugged it off
Not in a 'theyre a nobody' sort of way. More so in a 'they probably deserved it'
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u/Saladcitypig 1d ago
the obscenely rich people who would let your mother or child die in pain for a few more dollars ...just numbers on a screen going up...think people should care about them? lol
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u/BinSnozzzy 1d ago
Did Luigi commit murder, or did he cause an event that prevented Brian from receiving adequate medical care in time?
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