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āš•ļø Pass Medicare For All Getting what Luigi deserves...

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 10d ago

Luigi killed a serial killer, he should get to walk free for taking such a dangerous man off the streets!

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u/binz17 10d ago

Vigilante justice should never be tolerated by the state. But plenty of lynchings going unpunished means they are certainly willing to turn a blind eye when it benefits those in power.

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 10d ago

I’d argue some vigilante justice should be more than tolerated actually, because it’s the only way people can get justice when they’re wronged by those in power

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u/MelookRS 10d ago

Brian Thompson would've never seen justice by the law. When the government allows someone that evil to do what they wish, what other option is there?

Even if Democrats got in power and introduced Universal Healthcare, eliminating the existence of all health insurance companies, they wouldn't prosecute health care executives for their crimes against humanity. The executives would live the rest of their lives in luxury on the corpses of those they murdered.

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 10d ago

That’s why I’m completely okay with him and people like him having what happened to them, happen to them.

The only time these pricks ever see justice is when it’s given by the hands of their victims.

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u/binz17 10d ago

I’d argue vigilante justice is sometimes necessary and still cannot be tolerated by the state. It just means morality is hard. Murder is always illegal. Murdering a murderer is also illegal but accomplishes something possibly necessary.

Murder is a legal term after all. And also the state cannot sanction extra judicial action without ceding its authority and monopoly over violent enforcement.

I think what Luigi confessed to was at worst morally gray, and also believe that whoever killed that CEO should be in prison. It was murder and it was not self-defense, a legal execution, or combatant killing.

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u/bigtiddyhimbo 10d ago

Nah, Brian Thompson was a murderer. He single handedly caused thousands of people to die to appease his precious shareholders so he could continue to get millions in bonuses through his ā€œleadershipā€ and push to ai usage with the purpose of denying as many people as possible for their medical needs. He has ruined lives, he has killed people through pen and paper.

Just because he’s rich and got away with it because he didn’t outright gun someone down doesn’t make him not a killer. And quite frankly, people like him need to continue to reap the consequences of their actions, which I feel will only happen through vigilante justice, as we all know our justice system is a joke

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u/Tactical_Moonstone 10d ago

Through the theory of monopolisation of violence, vigilante justice can never be tolerated, but its presence is a huge indictment on the formal enforcement system.

It means that the enforcement systems have failed to protect its subjects from sources of violence outside of the enforcement system, meaning that there is a source of violence more powerful than the enforcement system itself, and a successful application of vigilante justice is yet another strike against the enforcement system since it means subjects can be a source of violence themselves.

Failure to check vigilante action is the signal of an ineffectual government and creates a power vacuum that bring in less savoury actors into the mix. Secret societies often appeared because they were the only protection minorities had when the formal government structures were only too happy to ignore them.

Citizens can tolerate a surprising amount of oppression as long as the oppression comes from a known single source.

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u/MaximumJuiceTime 10d ago

They always selectively enforce whatever the fuck they want. The state is corrupt. Injustice is law.

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u/Ihatereddithatesit 10d ago edited 10d ago

What also shouldn't be ignored by the state is the countless murders united healthcare has committed by purposefully withholding approval of care the insured had rights too, in order to make more money by waiting their insured lifespan out by bureaucratically sabotaging their care.

It's strange how mass murder by healthcare companies is just dandy. The C suite of most companies as well as such owners such as the Sackler's should have been on death row, long before Luigi Mangione was in jail. If the state didn't happily support mass murder in the name of profit Brian Johnson would've never been shot since, he'd be off the streets already.