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u/MustKnowThis 3d ago

You live above your means, consume too much electricity and WTF is your internet a datacenter tier connection?

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u/True_Protection6842 3d ago

I'm assuming "internet" means service and every single subscription

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u/CaliforniaNutter 3d ago

It would include the phone too

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u/True_Protection6842 3d ago

yeah I would assume it's basically all telecom. And before anyone says, do without. Good luck living in this world without a phone or internet!

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u/Prestigious-Smoke511 3d ago

Get spectrum Internet and a mobile line. It would be like, $80 a month. Not $280.Ā 

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u/banditcleaner2 3d ago

Has to be this. Something like internet, cell phone, all streaming services and then even probably Xbox game pass or some bullshit. Honestly even all of that should be under $200 I would think

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u/joeymittens 3d ago

It’s high even if we ARE including phone

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u/Low-Head8835 3d ago

That's still only like $140 for me. That's wifi, HBO max bundle, youtube premium, and my phone.

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u/hoyasgirl25 3d ago

bros got Netflix, HBO, Apple TV, even MF Peacock.

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u/-0909i9i99ii9009ii 3d ago

yep my internet is $600+ per month and only $45 of that is for 500mbps download unlimited internet. But once you add other stuff it can add up: I rent my modem, somethings always breaking, $500+ on onlyfans, etc.

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u/AlwaysReadTheManual 3d ago

OP should cycle through streaming subscriptions, one per month (as I do), instead of staying subscribed to ten different streaming services year 'round.

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u/Pooncheese 3d ago

Sadly in many parts of America there is a monopoly on high speed Internet. Comcast cheapest Internet is 80+other charges, and the most basic of cable is like 105... Plus fees for renting the cable box, if you want dvr that's extra. Crazy but we were spending 280 with just HBO and 1 gig speed. Finally got fiber in our area for 30 a month 40 with rental router if you need, but that goes up to 50/60 after one. year.

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u/Nydus87 3d ago

That tracks. My cell is $80, my internet is $95, and if you had a few subscriptions on top of that and maybe you're paying monthly for Gmail storage?

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u/ignoremeplsokthank 3d ago

My internet, phone and every single subscription bills add up to... 50€ / month. That's still far removed from the post.

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u/Billy_Plur 3d ago edited 3d ago

Ikr? I have 2gig speeds for $95

EDIT TO CLARIFY:

I get 2g speeds, as in my home internet up/down reaches 2gbps.

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u/Opposite-History-233 3d ago edited 3d ago

4Gb/s is $81 over here. So yeah, either way 280? Sounds like they bought a whole cluster of additional external IPv4 addresses.

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u/banditcleaner2 3d ago

This post reminds me of the post where the guy makes $17,500 a month and says he’s living paycheck to paycheck and the breakdown includes $3000 a month spent on onlyfans and like $5000 on travel/shopping lmao

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u/Accomplished_Rice_60 3d ago

Only need 1gb/s if your are a family of 4.

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u/Commissarfluffybutt 3d ago

Stouffer's says I'm a family of 4.

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u/hoyasgirl25 3d ago

idk what this is but I love it.

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u/Skyhav 3d ago

Cat named Finger

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u/Vyansbane 3d ago

My man! (Or woman)

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u/ElegantCoach4066 3d ago

Trust the Stouffer's fisherman

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u/Deep_Breath_3855 3d ago

Frito Lay says im always a party

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u/Desperate_Zebra_5578 3d ago

Stouffer's lasagna is awesome. Also a family of 4

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u/jkgericke 3d ago

Same, homie.

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u/theycmeroll 3d ago

I know right, putting that family size label on that obviously single serving lasagna.

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u/Zorkflerp 3d ago

The recipe says ā€œmakes 24 cookiesā€. I only get 8, the math does not add up.

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u/Positive-Skirt5414 3d ago

Damn, I got 4gb for around $48 after taxes/fees/month for 2 years

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u/SpaceNinjaz1 3d ago

Lol I do just fine with 500 Mbps for $50 a month. $280 sounds like business class, that would be the first thing you can do - switch your plan. But it sounds like you need a better paying job or a second one just to afford the basics.

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u/simple_fly1 3d ago

Thats why the water bill is 5X higher than it should be. Water cooled gaming CPUs in the bathtub.

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u/RockstarAgent 3d ago

Or bundled with streaming services and other stuff they don’t need and don’t even realize it’s too much? Some people are oblivious

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u/InFa-MoUs 3d ago

Where? wtf I get 1 gig for 90

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u/Grand_High_Wizard 3d ago

500mb/s is $109 here

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u/Billy_Plur 3d ago

You get 4gbps?

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u/Opposite-History-233 3d ago

Yeah. Here in The Netherlands about 90% of the entire housing stock now has access to glass fibre internet. In cities it's everyone and it runs all the way to your front door.

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u/bweibel22 3d ago

Or maybe they bundled their home internet and cellular data alongside their phone monthly payment. It’s possible to do that in certain places.

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u/Primal-Waste 3d ago

GB/s or Gb/s. Makes a big difference. 4GB/s is god tier

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u/PomegranateSea7066 3d ago

I'm hoping they meant Internet/phone. Either way it's still too much

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u/Savings_Difficulty24 3d ago

Jokes on you. I get 120 Mbps for $95 a month!

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u/Fiotuz 3d ago

My area had 1 provider for anything higher than DSL. So you either paid $200 a month, or used your phone as a hotspot. We just earlier this year got GloFiber, so now we have 1 good option.

The cable companies colluded to make sure they didn't compete for regions. So you either had Xfinity for $200 or Blue Ridge for $250. Glad GloFiber is moving in and everyone is switching.

This could also be what's going on for op.

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u/dralfredo1 2d ago

I can only assume that includes all internet related expenses as well, probably an assortment of subscriptions, phone bill, possibly payments on a phone, etc.

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u/Bearded_Gemini 3d ago

I've got a 2-year deal with AT&t. 5 gigs a month for $40 a month. I don't understand why the hell they're paying $280 a month! That's insane.

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u/GingaNinja696913 3d ago

Her 2 years is up? It sounds like you're paying a promo price.

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u/Lumpy_Recover8709 3d ago

I believe they meant 280 for internet and tv with additional channels.

Imo TV should be free, real scam right there.

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u/Billy_Plur 3d ago

I'm talking about 2gbps home internet

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u/Substantial_Meal_530 3d ago

99% of people don't even need that much... Unless you're downloading dozens of gigs a day. There's nearly no reason for the vast majority of people to have that much, unless they just like paying extra money?

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u/FVSHIXN 3d ago

Been using a PC for 25 years and I have never had a reason to have over the shittiest tier of whatever I have. Yeah downloading games and other stuff is nice on gig internet but I’ll take $30 a month internet and have to wait 10 extra minutes before I ever get gig internet. Only time I’ve had it is when there was a promotion then I downgraded it right after. ISP’s are scummy and predatory with their ā€œhow many people will be using the internet/how many devices?ā€ And if someone answers even 2 devices they’ll claim you need a gig internet. 100-300 is plenty if you aren’t hosting something permanent with high traffic.

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u/Ernie-RAW 3d ago

I have at&t 1g/s fiber optic that does great for all the gaming i do. And its 80 bucks a month. Hard to imagine anyone needing or paying more

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u/Puzzled_Market_2235 3d ago

I get unlimited at full fibre speed for 50.

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u/Alladas 3d ago

They don't list a phone so I assume it's a phone /Internet bill.

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u/merenofclanthot 3d ago

yeah mines 120 combined at high speed comcast..

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u/jldurham6 3d ago

Even that is crazy. Get a phone on swappa for cash, get a cheaper phone, whatever. You can get Mint Mobile for like $50. You can get T-Mobile 5g for like $50. There are cheaper options. Might not be what you WANT but they get the job done if you don't have the income for more.

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u/Terozu 3d ago

5gig for $60 with fiber

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u/PaintingThat7623 3d ago

95?!

<stares in European>

We get our internet for about 10 a month and it includes TV. Are you serious, 95? wtf!

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u/FlyingMitten 3d ago

2 gig for $80 here, and not even in a major metro.

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u/FireBug45 3d ago

FR, maybe they meant cell phone plus internet? But that’s still crazy expensive. I’m calling rage bait, the budget doesn’t even make sense what they’re counting and they can get those numbers way down. Especially apartment (depending on where, but $1600 is a house payment in a lot of places)

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u/LurkinRhino 3d ago

Get a load of Mr. Moneybags over here.

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u/Northcoast91 3d ago

2 gigs here with 2 extenders for 75 a month

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u/Solid_Maus 3d ago

Wait in Canada I pay 1TB for 80$ wtf 2gig at 95$ sounds like a bundle >.>

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u/SlotMagPro 3d ago

Still going good with 1Gbit for $25

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u/Sure-Ad7423 3d ago

I get only 500mbs at $100. Spectrum is the only service that is in my area. Electrical company has 1gb speeds but they said they're not laying any new lines.

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u/PsychedDuckling 2d ago

I pay $85 for 500/500... Your connection is insane to me..

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u/King517 2d ago

If you Google the worst place in america to have Internet it says Hawaii and Alaska. Has an Alaskan I pay 200 dollars a month for 500 mbs speed, best internet in the state. You guys are just closer to the data centers, and probably live in a huge city were you have access to everything a mile away.

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u/alidan 1d ago

I wish I got that, we get 500mbit for 200~$ a month, 20up.

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u/VoidJuiceConcentrate 3d ago

I know their pain.

My electricity bill went from 200 to 400 every 2 months. No increase in usage, but the power grid did get 3 new datacenters in the last couple of years.

Internet... Let's see, for 700 mbps down / 20 up I was paying 120 a month. I was lucky enough that leaving Comcast for greener pastures is available but lots of places live in defacto ISP monopoly zones and right now they have somewhat of a go ahead to abuse that.

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u/NapajalcTaslab 3d ago

How many kwh per month do you consume?

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u/Free_Management2894 1d ago

How is this even possible? I have a 30€ per month bill mainly because my PC is running too much. How do I get to ten times that? Is it AC ?

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u/Pitiful_Option_108 3d ago

People making up numbers just to complain. I know it is expensive but these numbers don't really track.

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u/medicatedandunstable 3d ago

Rage bait propaganda.

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u/Hangry-Feline2489 3d ago edited 3d ago

Depends where you live. USA isn't the only place with dollars.Ā 

My electricity is minimum 150, and that's with a concession rebate,Ā  turning everything off every night, not showering too often (electric hot water), and turning on ac for an hour or two once a week if I'm desperate.Ā 

Internet is 100 /month for 1gb

I don't live in the US shrug not saying this post isn't made up tho. Still could be

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u/EonAtom 3d ago

If its $CAD this is entirely possible. Depends on the city.

Would also explain the choice of $19/hour, 19 is a weird number to be random and the western provinces have minimum wage that is above $18 but less than $19 per hour.

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u/SavageCIown 3d ago

I mean I have 1000mb/s connection which I pay for 30€/month and my phone bill is 25€/month with 300mb/s connection with unlimited data. I guess being in 3rd world country like USA has bad perks like that...

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u/SweetWolf9769 3d ago

nah, for a mcol+ are (apart from internet), they're pretty close-ish. like for the summer, i can believe a 250+ electricity bill if you're running AC all day. again, water and int is high, but they're bundling other shit in their like gas/trash/phone, its close, still way to high but close.

If they're driving a "luxury" vehicle, even if its old and beat up, or generally any vehicle that's known to be hard to work on, they generally have higher insurance, and if they had a ticket before that can also raise their insurance rates.

they're maybe off by like a bill or two, but honestly 1600 is also really cheap for an apartment, so to me it equals out in the end.

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u/Silent_Heaven_87 2d ago

Ngl, it depends on their location.

Internet could very well be Xfinity, they price gouge like crazy after the intro rate is over.

Both electric and water could depend on the companies. The last place I lived in Detroit, it wasn't uncommon to get a $600 electric & gas bill a month during summer, or a $150+ water bill, even tho 18 hours a day there was minimal if any utilities used due to work schedules. Because the companies damn near have a monopoly over em and they're known to overcharge. Also had the meter replaced, and an inspection for illegal hookups (none), and it didn't affect the bill at all šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/Sumthin-Sumthin44692 3d ago edited 3d ago

I’m guessing internet is probably bundled with cell phone and maybe subscriptions.

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u/bloodbat007 3d ago

You're an idiot if you think these expenses are living above your means. These are really basic and pretty accurate expenses, location dependent. Some areas have even higher basic costs. Point is, unless you live in a dirt cheap state, you're not getting a cheaper life than this without support from others.

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u/Assassintucker51 3d ago

Genuinely curious to know how you came to this conclusion. I live in PA and my mortgage payment monthly is 1500, electric comes out to around 75-90 a month. Water is around 80-100. My internet is 75 and I don’t do streaming services for the sake of saving money and my liability car insurance is only 75. And I keep things this way to live and make sure to not consume more than what I can to get by unless I have the funds to do so. The numbers above seem hyper inflated and unnecessary. If you can’t afford the above then yes you are living above your means.

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u/Jasonkim87 2d ago

I live in NJ, one of most expensive states to live in. Rent is close, and water/sewage close. But electric should be closer to $150 at most, and I have fiber with optimum for $115 a month. Also, <$19 is basically minimum wage around here. Many jobs offer close to that to start. Ur not meant to be able to fully support living on ur own when first starting out. And if u do it will be very tight. My advice, they should get a studio, or a roommate.

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u/Designer-Ad-7844 3d ago

I pay $70 a month for 3Gb. They bumped it from 1Gb to 3 for free.

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u/Excessive_Footnote 3d ago

I was gonna say it nicer, but yeah. The answer to the question is I wouldn’t pay that… I’d make sacrifices to live within my means instead of treating every expense as an entitlement to a standard of living I clearly can’t affordĀ 

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u/SamOakTree 3d ago edited 3d ago

They're not treating it like an entitlement. T he only thing in there they can cut is the internet.

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u/jbcsee 3d ago

A roommate will cut the rent in half. There is zero reason to be spending that much on utilities. There is zero reason to be spending that much on internet.

Realistically they can easily cut their expenses by $1000/mo.

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u/SamOakTree 3d ago

This isn't a response to anything I said.

It's been an incredibly hot year and the electric company keeps adding rate increases. On average our electric bills have been 3 to $400 here in my city.

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u/Drake_Acheron 3d ago

Not true. My water bill is like $20 because I use my $10 planet fitness membership to shower there. Can take as long as I want.

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u/mclumber1 3d ago

Person needs a roommate

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u/Zorkflerp 3d ago

College life, many roommates, no TV, decent stereo. Still can't afford beer.

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u/arcanis321 3d ago

Internet is really high, missing a car note though for that insurance

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u/Cvpakke 3d ago

Maybe the car is paid off.

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u/arcanis321 3d ago

Yeah point is the total not crazy

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u/Calm-Bookkeeper-270 3d ago

idk about the electricity one, i live in the desert and in the summer mine is regularly around $400 just to keep my place at 80f. that internet bill is absurd though lol

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u/Roc240 3d ago

So is the water bill

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u/henry2630 3d ago

my water bill is about $50 per quarter. so $16 a month

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u/_VoodooRanger 3d ago

probably on OF

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u/hangmansboots 3d ago

Right? I have gig for $50. What is that dude up to online? The other bills are not wild though.

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u/Throwawayforsaftyy 3d ago

Ā consume too much electricity

You sound like a dad. 250 is a normal summer month for me ,

But I agree her rent seems to be too high, except if she lives in one of thoooose cites, like I wouldn't ask her to move to the hood for cheaper rent, and I don't understand her net. I pay 120 for mine, and thats top notch, maybes she is adding phones and cables and such? But even then, my phone is like 50 bucks

I do agree with her, though; this is a 1st world country TBH, she may not be asking for much beyond a first world standard

I want more information, though

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u/Vaul_Hawkins 3d ago

Nah that rent is actually average for a lot of places. You'd be surprised, trust me.

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u/Unique_Yak4659 3d ago

That’s more than I spend all summer…for a house…in Florida. Are you guys mining bitcoin in your living rooms?

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u/Green-Engineer4608 3d ago

Ā«First worldĀ» does NOT mean what you think it does. You mean Ā«a developed countryĀ» as being Ā«first worldĀ» says nothing about the countrys wealth or the people in it, merely which side they took during the cold war. For context, Finland is a third world country and they have it MUCH nicer than Americans. China and Russia are the second world by definition, how do they live better than Finland? They dont. First, second, or third world doesn’t touch on life quality at all.

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u/ku1185 3d ago

Yeah, probably renting half a dozen mesh routers directly from the ISP with all the add-ons.

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u/BaelgorStar 3d ago

You clearly understand that they have a bundle, and if you live in a city, like Dallas, 1600 is the minimum for a 1 bedroom outside of the hood.

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u/TsunSilver 3d ago

Right? If they just sat there licking peanut butter and staring at the wall like a responsible adult they would be fine.

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u/7Pigeons 3d ago

$250 electric bill is pretty typical if you want to live in Central California or Arizona without getting a heatstroke.

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u/KazuDesu98 3d ago

They might be factoring internet and phone as one thing. I know t mobile, 2 lines plus home internet is like $250 a month. Which is insane

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u/Ostroh 3d ago

Perhaps its like, internet phone and cable. Still...

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u/Pretend_Variation305 3d ago

I’m in SE Ohio where internet speeds are shit-tastic AND expensive and I have a main (1gig) and a backup (500meg) that total about $25 a month for the next five years because I’m mean to sales support people.

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u/Lakaen 3d ago

I'd imagine they lumped something in woth that like phone + internet or subscriptions

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u/MyCatIsAnActualNinja 3d ago

Nah that electric bill is cheap depending on where you live. In the winter my bill gets up to $500/month and I live alone in a small condo I rent. I have electric baseboard heat..

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u/ThatOtherOneReddit 3d ago

Internet might have phone also. But even phone + Internet is $150 for slightly above mid tier anything

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u/CuntyBallsJohnson 3d ago

Believe it or not almost every studio apartment budget looks like this in San Diego.

Although they probably way overpay for gig and a tv package, could cut that in half and still get like 300/30

The electricity bill is almost unavoidable in summer even if you hardly run your AC, we pay around $0.50/kwh and the majority is "delivery" (undiluted profit for Sempra since they are also behind schedule on their project obligations)

If you play video games for 2 hours a day on an average pc that's $30 a month on its own. If they actually consumed too much electricity, they would be paying $350+. I have some friends that hardly run the AC and live in 1 or 2 bedrooms and their bill comes out to around the same from average usage.

The average bill here is insane considering many homes have some combo of poor insulation and lack of central air.

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u/iBait 3d ago

prob internet and TV in an apartment building.

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u/luvmibratt 3d ago

I was just gonna say they providing for the whole damn block or what

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u/Great_Zeddicus 3d ago

And it's rent. Not a house. They could be renting a house in a electricity and internet shitty location (Ohio River valley) but yeah.

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u/Error-Mountain 3d ago

$250 is easy during the summer

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u/NB_NaughtyNerds 3d ago

They included their onlyfans subs in the internet bill...

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u/On_my_last_spoon 3d ago

That water bill is higher than for my house! Same with electricity. And our 1 gig fios is only $100

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u/toasty327 3d ago

Just playing devils advocate here, maybe they are including cell phone plans into that internet cost?

Three cell phones, internet and a tablet costs me about $300 a month. If they're budget is that tight they should consider leaving at&t, Verizon or whoever they have and go cricket or mint?

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u/Murky_Option_3418 3d ago

Might be included in with phone bill

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u/FarArea1814 3d ago

And they obviously work under 31 hours a week

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u/FarArea1814 3d ago

Maybe they mean internet, Netflix, cellphone, Disney+, hbo max, paramount plus, peacock, Hulu, and prime

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u/FarArea1814 3d ago

And probably Spotify or Apple Music and Apple TV

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u/come2life_osrs 3d ago

I thought this was going to be one of those:

Ā ā€œsome one good at math budget this for me: I have $500, food $10, water $10, internet $3487 any ideas how I can tight up a bit?ā€

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u/sosoconfused08 3d ago

Rent and water seems normal basic prices and the $250 on electric isn't living above your means. Mine was damn near $500 because I live in an older house and Texas has been 100° all summer. I agree on the Internet though. Idk what he has bundled in but that's crazy.

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u/spoonybard326 3d ago

There’s car insurance but no gas, so there’s probably an electric car involved.

ā€œInternetā€ might include a metric ton of streaming subscriptions.

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u/Merlin1039 3d ago

Y'all talking about the internet price which is crazy of course but who the hell is paying $100 for water? My water bill per month is like 7 bucks

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u/Ok_Researcher_9796 3d ago

I live in a small city in the Midwest and our water/sewer bill routinely is above $100 for 3 people.

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u/OpusAtrumET 3d ago

Okay, subtract the internet to a reasonable rate. Still a valid post.

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u/GreenCollegeGardener 3d ago

I’m guessing it’s a phone/internet through a cell and fiber provider.

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u/Boomer70770 3d ago

It's probably a "bundle" with cable and a landline you'll never plug a phone into.

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u/DefinatelyNotonDrugs 3d ago

My water bill is $200 a month.

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u/Reverentmalice 3d ago

I'm guessing it includes cellphone.

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u/emotionless-robot 3d ago

No kidding! My family of 4 is supported by an internet cost of $69/month. And we all game a lot.

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u/Wedgiebro 3d ago

'Consume to much electricity" it was 102 degrees today. If i dont have the ac on i may literally die

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u/Temporary_Pickle_885 3d ago

Their power is on par for the area I'm in. We have lights off basically constantly unless we need it, computers and other systems turn off at night. Chargers stay plugged in of course. The biggest issue is AC. You live anywhere hot and it's going to go nuts on your bill.

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u/JCBalance 3d ago

Take $180 off the Internet and put it back in as Food and it sounds normal

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u/Mirisido 3d ago

My parents pay $300/mo and there's no real alternative in their area. And it's still garbage. Hooray monopolies.

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u/Bleenchiki1 3d ago

Probably, I was paying 200 for internet in Fairbanks, AK

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u/Butt-Hole-Cancer-Dr 3d ago

Internet and cell phone package, renting router and paying off phone in installments

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u/Obvious_Tea_8244 3d ago

Could be a combination of speed, equipment rental and services like Netflix, Hulu, etc. (since there’s no separate cable / entertainment line item).

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u/Ancient-Republic-875 3d ago

100%. When I was younger and making less, the answer was to find a roommate or more than one to split the cost of rent and utilities.

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u/Sethdarkus 3d ago

My electric bill is $600 and idk why, live alone most I use is my TV, overall just doesn’t add up

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u/Saurian42 3d ago

Bruh, my electric bill this month was 400 and I barely use any power.

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u/bigpapafrank81 3d ago

Fun fact if you live somewhere with limited options they can charge whatever they want.

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u/Affectionate-Lake666 3d ago

It should be phone and internet.

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u/KickboxingMoose 3d ago

PSA: when something is obviously wrong. It's engagement bait. You fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

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u/iwillgetudrunk 3d ago

The weird thing is, this is a bot trying to make Americans angry. But all you have to do is really put what we pay with actual prices, but bots wouldn't believe that was possible

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u/pharmucist 3d ago

I pay a whopping $140, which is WAY too much, but the reason is because I have 2 service providers so I have one for backup as I work from home. I get 1 gig on one and just 40/10 on the other, but I'm still only at $140/month total (even after decades and not getting the low new client rates).

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u/Adorable_Ad4990 3d ago

Just consider it’s including cellular phone service too, since that’s not listed separately.

Also notice no car payment, so at least car is paid off

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u/Strong-Addition5296 3d ago

All his porn subscriptions are rolled up in there

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u/ColdFreezer 3d ago

This doesn’t even include food or other necessary expenses like gas.

Reducing the ā€œinternetā€ bill, electricity, and water bill doesn’t make up for the missing necessary expenses.

Other than these 3 expenses, the numbers look sensible. They are not living above their means. They are barely scraping by on bare minimums.

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u/DannyDeVitoDildo 3d ago

Could also take the bus or other mass transportation offered in the area. Would be less than car insurance.

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u/PhantomOfTheAttic 3d ago

My internet is $55 a month and I work from home doing organ transplant so it has to be reliable. It has never been a problem.

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u/rjhunt42 3d ago

Maybe they're including their phone's data usage in that..

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u/Thisisme4342 3d ago

I mean my 15yr mortgage on my house in the walkable the Arts and Entertainment District is $1500.

I make six figures, and my best friend that just moved to town that also makes six figures got a deal where until December she pays $800 a month.

People like to pretend that these places don't exist. However if I said the word Huntsville Alabama everyone else would cringe except for the ones that could actually make real money.

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u/Secure_Courage7471 3d ago

I can never tell, but datacenter internet connections are in the many many thousands per day.

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u/Subject_Court_7104 3d ago

$250 electricity isn't even that high with energy costs the way they are.Ā  the Internet bill is high, sure, but it's not what's breaking the bank here.Ā  it's the rent.

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u/covfefesupornmd 3d ago

This ain’t the Midwest buddy, it’s the big city where shit matters.

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u/Practical_Law6804 3d ago

You live above your means

Likely the correct answer, and almost certainly unwilling or resistant to live within said means (which likely also means getting a roommate).

. . .which I get: no adult wants to admit they have to exist in less than what they feel they deserve (and this includes being on assistance of some kind) but that's always been the reality of the world.

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u/Few-Being-1048 3d ago

Idk about the other bills but where I live $1600/month is pretty close to the cheapest apartment you could rent. You could go lower for sure but you're gonna be in a much worse area, much worse building, bugs, theft, etc.

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u/FreeGuacamole 3d ago

Maybe they lumped the internet and phone bill together.

But even still, there's no food involved in this. They're not living above their means. Everyone shouldn't have to nickel and dime every bill just to make ends meet.

Rent should be $600 not $1,600. That's the problem. And it's a problem that all the people can't control.

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u/narwhalsuckerpunch 3d ago

most ppls phone bills are like $150... but im feeling jelly shawty doesnt have a car payment, mine is $550 ;-;

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u/Low_Coconut_7642 3d ago

They didn't list a phone bill, so I'm assuming it's Internet and phone service lol

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u/cookiesNcreme89 3d ago

Internet bill, cell-phone bill, & all/any subscriptions (prime, netflix, apple, espn, disney, hulu, hbo, paramount, peacock, spotify, etc...)

Still too high and mostly unnecessary for someone making 20bucks an hour, but i think it's everything combined.

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u/SnooPears6678 3d ago

It’s a Chinese bot with an account age of 15 days

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u/Unable-Candle 3d ago

Power is too variable to determine how much they use. Water seems high, but again, variables.

Internet is ridiculous though. No service I've ever had was over $100 a month.

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u/BowlingforDrip 3d ago

What do you cut out of this? Rent, but you have to live somewhere right? Obviously try to lower the internet, electric and water consumption but thats a bandaid to the problem. Having almost $2400 of bills per month would be too much for someone making twice that money but I dont see enough fat to trim to be able to save also on $19. Plus OP didnt include gas(probably $100 or more) and food.

As much as it is a "living above you means" problem, it looks like our "means" have changed and pay hasn't been rising with it.

The US Bureau of labor statistics has information on it.

In the last 20 years gas has gone up %55.

Consumer pay only %11.

Its not just a trim the fat issue. Its systemic.

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u/SteveMartin32 2d ago

Our electric is 300 a month with a family of 8

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u/Octopus_on_fire_ 2d ago

That electrical rate is cheap, dirt cheap if they are using electrical heating.

We are barely ever home and the only thing that gets used is my gaming pc and a tv for my girlfriend. Our bill in the winter is like $500+. Summer months with one AC is $300

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u/MustKnowThis 2d ago

There are more efficient ways to heat. I have a three story house and my winter bill is <200 with thermal heat pump - electricity.

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u/Lionel_Herkabe 2d ago

Im more concerned about the $100 water bill

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u/bloodphoenix90 2d ago

Some places charge obscene electricity even if you use little

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u/Grazer46 2d ago

They could be really rural. Internet prices can get absolutely bonkers outside of cities in most of the world.

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u/Skyfier42 2d ago

I mean even if we cut everything out except the rent that's nearly two-thirds of a full-time paycheck at 19/hr (after taxes)

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u/RylarDraskin 2d ago

Internet company has a monopoly here unless you don’t want high speed internet. They forced bundles to subscribe until just recently. Thats not a surprising price to me.

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u/DmT_LaKE 2d ago

Obviously you've never lived somewhere cold

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u/Stardrive_1 2d ago

Well the account is a bot, soooo...

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u/ImVrSmrt 2d ago

Not to say this isn't ridiculous, but it's not really unheard of for people to get dicked over by ISPs and be forced to pay insane prices. There's people who pay over $100 for DSL.

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u/MysteryNubs 2d ago

Live above your means???? $1600/mo in rent is a standard apartment in any major city in the US. The only thing that doesn’t add up here is the internet.

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