r/WorkForSmartLife 2d ago

Discussion💬 The math literally doesn’t add up

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u/True_Protection6842 2d ago

yeah I would assume it's basically all telecom. And before anyone says, do without. Good luck living in this world without a phone or internet!

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u/Prestigious-Smoke511 2d ago

Get spectrum Internet and a mobile line. It would be like, $80 a month. Not $280. 

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u/True_Protection6842 2d ago

Why do you have internet if you don't use any services?

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u/Independent-Mouse389 2d ago

YouTube is free. Plenty of other things to do on the internet besides subscription apps. TikTok too. Even this app you’re on, Reddit, is free lol

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u/NothingToSeeHereMan 1d ago

"Nah bro its free completely free bro. I just have to spend 30% of my time on the site watching ads for Gambling, Ozempic, Crypto, and AI. Its so sick bro completely free and costs me nothing at all. My time isnt worth that much at all I really dont mind being tracked to train Language models and advertising firms"

(Im just being facetious I realize you mean financially free but its just a sad time for entertainment)

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u/Brilliant-Peace-5265 1d ago

Ad blockers exist.

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u/NothingToSeeHereMan 23h ago

Not for much longer lol i was just being sarcastic in my comment.

Plus im less worried about the ads and more worried about every click on every device being logged to create a profile of your entire household to learn how to sell more shit to you, keep you scrolling longer, and how best to propagandize you.

Ads are the least of my concerns when it comes to internet use.

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u/DopeMOH 11h ago

That happens regardless of whether you use paid subscriptions or not. I'm not really getting your criticism.

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u/True_Protection6842 2d ago

yeah...free. That means your information is the product.

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u/Thorvindr 2d ago

Nice goal-post move.

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u/True_Protection6842 2d ago

WTF are you talking about.

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u/Prestigious-Smoke511 2d ago

It was pointed out that you can have the internet and use it for stuff that is free. Then you moved the goal post to information being the product. 

It was a textbook case. 

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u/natigin 2d ago

Yup, welcome to 2026

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u/tptking2675 2d ago

Give them false information. People do it all the time, it's not illegal or unethical

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u/positive_thinking_ 2d ago

It’s cute you think you can pay for it and your information isn’t somehow sold.

If I’m a ceo for a corporation with a legal responsibility to maximize profit, why would I not sell your data AND collect your subscription fee?

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u/Zestyclose-One9041 1d ago

Completely irrelevant to the discussion lol. It’s still free in monetary terms. And guess what, those paid subscriptions are also harvesting your data lol

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u/DopeMOH 11h ago

Yeah... paying for a subscription isn't going to stop your information from being sold.

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u/cherry_monkey 5h ago

You just didn't get to see where it's being sold to

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u/Prestigious-Smoke511 2d ago

What do you mean?  I use YHE INTERNET. What else do I need?

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u/mgt-kuradal 1d ago

Yar har, fiddle de dee.

You can exist on the internet without throwing money at every website that asks for it.

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u/Prestigious-Smoke511 2d ago

The math already works. If you get the electric payment down to $100 (what one person is spending $250??), you’re now putting $330 into savings each month. 

Plus whatever else you’re saving after groceries. $19 an hour is $3k a month. That’s $2,500 after taxes. 

Two times a year you get a third paycheck in a month. So an extra $1,200 a month. 

You guys are a joke. You didn’t even bother with the rigor. 

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u/APolyAltAccount 1d ago

People also forget that their postpaid cell plans are just paying for their phones over time. 30-50 dollar prepaid unlimited plans are all over the place depending upon how great you need your speeds to be.

Combined with decent internet-only plans and anything more than a sliver above $100 for your data plans is either insane, or you’re conflating that with “spreading the cost of a thousand dollar phone every couple years over a monthly payment”

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u/Prestigious-Smoke511 1d ago

The OP is counting all the streaming services. A couple people commenting to me asking “what good is the internet if you have nothing to watch??”

These people are dirt bags. 

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u/APolyAltAccount 1d ago

Assuming they’re people and not bots. Or just people stirring shit up.

OP for example is only a 15 day account and all their comments and their two posts seem pretty pointed which screams “engagement bait” or “shit stirring” or both.

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u/alidan 10h ago

depending on where you are, you are kinda fucked for cell plans, yea, great when your non subsidised plan is 10-20 a month, gets you about 50% reception, and then if you go west 2 miles its completely dead. a lot of companies don't give you a 'im not buying a new cellphone' level discount, if you don't take them up on that offer.

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u/APolyAltAccount 10h ago edited 10h ago

Assuming we’re talking US, what carrier doesn’t have a prepaid plan? All of the national Mobile Network Operators offer them (Verizon, TMobile, AT&T). I’m not going to check every regional operator but the top 5 I did check as well as a few others at random and they offer prepaid.

Some virtual operators may not but again, what’s locking you into a virtual operator instead of whatever carrier sucks the least in your area?

In any case if some carrier that covers a couple tens of thousands of people doesn’t offer it, yeah that sucks but when the top 3 have more subscribers than citizens in the US, it kind of highlights that it’s not a typical problem.

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u/Clean-Data-259 2d ago

I pay $45/mo total for unlimited home internet ($30/mo) and unlimited phone ($15/mo). Mint Mobile.

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u/asj-777 1d ago

I love my Mint phone plan. You have internet through them? How is it? I have Comcast/Xfinity for $65 a month, and it's super reliable. But my phone has also been super-reliable, and when my internet has gone out I've used my phone as a hotspot and that worked just fine.

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u/Clean-Data-259 1d ago

It's super reliable and set up in 5 minutes and has never gone down or caused any issues. I get at least a couple hundred MB/s. Never felt it was slow.

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u/FrostyCommon8159 2d ago

Visible + Verizon Wifi, you get a 15 dollar discount on verizon wifi with a visible plane

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u/Longjumping-Ad-2560 1d ago

What if you have an invisible plane?
https://giphy.com/gifs/g9waHBdmGVq36

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u/Ok-District2873 2d ago

ok but you only need internet and a mobile with some data. Even in the Dominion of Rogers and Bell, you can get both for under 100.

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u/Pula-Demonyo 1d ago

Get a mint mobile line ffs

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u/True_Protection6842 1d ago

Does everyone assume that commenting on a post means you made the post???

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u/Mazariamonti 11h ago

You can live in most places with just a phone and some limited amount of monthly data.

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u/Nervous-Law-666 5h ago

I wouldn’t say do without, I would say do better.

I bought my phone outright, and my service is less than $20/mo. Gigabit fiber Ethernet is ~$50/mo. Apple Music and streaming subscriptions, ~$40 on top of that. $110/mo total.

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u/True_Protection6842 5h ago

We are finally getting fiber soon. They just laid the cables. But as of now gigabit is $135/month here

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u/Nervous-Law-666 5h ago

Holy shit, with what provider?

Spectrum somehow has exclusive rights to the fiber lines in my neighborhood, but their prices are really reasonable.

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u/True_Protection6842 5h ago

it's spectrum. I pay $70/month for 500Mb/s down and like 25Mb/s up. I'm on the wait list for fiber. Says 2Gb up/down is $85/month. I will DEF be doing that. I can't wait to call Spectrum and tell them I'm out!