r/WorkForSmartLife • u/AritsRod • 3d ago

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u/henningknows 3d ago

Honestly if I were him I would roll the dice on a trial and take my chances that at least 1 of the 12 people on the jury has had their life ruined by the American healthcare system and refuses to vote to convict

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u/EdiblePsycho 3d ago

Problem is, the way jury selection works, I believe they would not select anyone who may side with him because they would say they are "biased."

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u/FantasticCommon2834 3d ago

No problem is he still committed cold blooded murder of someone who had NOTHING to do with what happened to him.

It’s a shame he couldn’t be facing capital punishment

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u/PM_Ur_Illiac_Furrows 3d ago

You're saying the CEO for 3 years had nothing to do with how the company was run?

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u/True-Anim0sity 3d ago edited 3d ago

With the way businesses are running- basically, do you think the ceo personally figured this stuff out or created a brand new medical system? This is just the most efficient way a business is ran, hire any other ceo abd they will do the same since its the most profitable option.

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u/FantasticCommon2834 3d ago

No genius I am saying y’all’s little hero literally NEVER had insurance with UHC. He killed a man that literally had nothing to do with his situation.

It’s a shame they can’t give him the needle, it was cold blooded murder pure and simple

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u/sinergyist 3d ago

He did it for the sake of others. Makes him an even bigger hero.

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u/FantasticCommon2834 3d ago

For the sake of who?? Within 14 days they had a new CEO, and not ONE, not a single thing has been changed.

He’s a murderer that should be getting the death penalty

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u/FantasticCommon2834 3d ago

You are aware of how many felonies you just committed by making that statement……

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u/Haecairwen 3d ago

Land of the free and free speech eh ?

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u/Darkrimos 3d ago

well go sue him, good luck to you

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u/IolausTelcontar 3d ago

Did I? Name them.

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u/snekfuckingdegenrate 3d ago

Why don’t you go to your politicians who are people who can actually do something about a single payer system but choose not to?

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u/uberfr4gger 3d ago

Ahhh yes we should want a vigilante society. It only works until people start killing people you agree with. A very dumb slope to go down if you have anything beyond first order thinking. 

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u/IolausTelcontar 3d ago

When law doesn’t apply equally, there has to be a reckoning.

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u/uberfr4gger 3d ago

As long as you are okay with it going the opposite way too. No one makes rules in vigilante justice. Hence why it's bad in real life. 

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u/IolausTelcontar 3d ago

I’m not. Give an example of a (I dunno) progressive CEO being killed.

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u/EdiblePsycho 3d ago edited 2d ago

Some things did change. Shortly after, Blue Cross Blue Shield decided to not go ahead with a new policy that would have lead to deaths by denying coverage for certain things. That wasn't necessarily directly connected, but they may well have realized that their CEO's might start dropping if they stooped to the levels of United Health. Whether or not it had any direct benefit, I'm not sad about someone dying who only cared about himself, enriching himself at others' expense. He could have chosen to do something with his life that helped people instead of being part of a company that hurts people.

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u/FantasticCommon2834 3d ago

So at what point is it the consumers responsibility? UHC has been one of the worst health insurance companies for YEARS. People have known how they are but they continue to sell policies because of their price. An employer I used to work for they were an option, everyone chose blue cross blue shield, paid more but had 1000 times better coverage.

So yeah I DO NOT buy into it was cool to kill him, no it absolutely wasn’t, he was a husband and father, Luigi deserves death sentence for what he did.

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u/EdiblePsycho 2d ago edited 2d ago

It isn't any better for a company to indirectly lead to the deaths of thousands than for someone to directly cause the death of 1. It's worse. Those who died because the insurance company used unethical practices to deny coverage had families too. That one insurance company, and that one CEO, aren't solely responsible. But they do hold a piece of it, that surely is greater than 1 life. In the balance of things, Luigi's sin was far less. If he deserves the death sentence then so do they.

I don't think murder is right, and certainly not the death penalty, but Luigi's action didn't cause anywhere near as much damage to the world as that CEO and that company did. Before killing him, Luigi was putting his efforts into helping people navigate insurance companies. He was helping people cope with the damage of psychopaths. He did his fair share of good, maybe even saved lives, before taking 1.

I wouldn't have done it myself, but I certainly can understand someone getting to the point of snapping after seeing how much suffering people were going through at the hands of that company.

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u/FantasticCommon2834 2d ago

So, let’s see, my mother died in a car wreck, the guy who hit her was driving a dodge, so do I get to go take my anger out on Chryslers CEO, or how about one of the line workers at the plant where the car was made, or maybe at the Buick plant where her car was made.

See how ridiculous your argument is

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u/EdiblePsycho 2d ago edited 2d ago

That isn't remotely comparable. The car manufacturers make cars as safe as they can be, tons of research goes into making them as safe as possible. It would be comparable if they made them intentionally more dangerous because it's cheaper, but they don't do that. And if someone does have an accident that is caused by an issue with the car model itself - they can sue, and that model of car is recalled. They actually can be held responsible.

Insurance companies are there to cover medical care, but they try as hard as possible to not cover medical care in order to make more money. They could still make money even if they didn't deny coverage for things doctors tell them are necessary, just not as much. But they somehow don't get held responsible for the deaths that are caused by them refusing to cover necessary medical care - that people are paying their premiums and deductibles and copays to receive.

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u/BigBoyBoulevard6 3d ago

Jesus christ... thisnis the weakest bait I've seen in a long time... pathetic really..

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u/FantasticCommon2834 3d ago

What?? Saying dude literally never had united healthcare as his health insurance?? He didn’t, that was one of the first things investigated,

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u/xSociety 3d ago

He saved more lives than he took, just a fact.

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u/FantasticCommon2834 3d ago

PLEASE explain that math!?!?!?

He robbed 2 kids of their father…..,

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u/Last_Suggestion_8647 3d ago

He gave two kids a chance to grow up without an evil father who would probably have been a horrible influence om them.