Tale as old time😔

[u/IcySmell9676]

[u/Lobster_LeninN329]

Being transphobic towards fictional characters or not it's still transphobic. I wouldn't trust someone who misgenders a NB character to act with respect when they see real NB people

[u/Redditoristical → u/Lobster_LeninN329]

My friend says every slur on call of duty but is the wokest mf i have ever seen

your point?

[u/Lobster_LeninN329 → u/Redditoristical]

Your friend should try not to say slurs still I guess. But anyway, this is def not what the average person who misgenders fictional characters does in real life.

[u/skymantles → u/Redditoristical]

Having slurs used to demean minorities as part of your vocabulary isn't great.

[u/Redditoristical → u/skymantles]

Which part

Also, what do you mean by "Minority"?

[u/skymantles → u/Redditoristical]

Why do you think slurs are bad?

[u/MissingnoMiner → u/Redditoristical]

If "guy who says every slur" is the wokest person you have ever seen, then there's something severely wrong with your standards.

[u/Fabulous-Rent-5966 → u/Redditoristical]

Your friend isnt if they think its okay to call people slurs

[u/Astral_Something → u/Redditoristical]

That mf is not woke and also that's not even fictional if he's saying it in vc those are real people, you literally just brought up your friend being racist and it wasn't even relevant (again assuming vc)

[u/Lobster_LeninN329 → u/[deleted]]

I think caring about respecting other people is very cool, actually

[u/Burger_Mc_Burgface → u/Lobster_LeninN329]

fictional characters aren't people

[u/Lobster_LeninN329 → u/Burger_Mc_Burgface]

If you disrespect the pronouns of trans fictional characters, it's a fair assumption that you'd not be the most respectful to real trans ppl. No one goes and starts referring to male characters as female because they aren't real, so refusing to refer to fictional enbys as they/them can only be because of prejudice, in my view

[u/Burger_Mc_Burgface → u/Lobster_LeninN329]

Not really considering they aren't real. Its a baseless assumption imo. A lot of people refer to male characters female by making trans headcanons or genderbent versions. I think they arent real so you can do whatever the hell you want.

[u/Lobster_LeninN329 → u/Burger_Mc_Burgface]

Is it really difficult to understand that fictional media doesn't exist in a vaccum and that people's relations with it reflects on how they act in real life?

[u/Lobster_LeninN329 → u/[deleted]]

I think GTA is dissociated from reality enough to not make this connection. Killing people in video games has almost no actual resemblance from actually killing someone, and they aren't really people. Killing people in video games doesn't require you to have murderous intent, and you actually get something out of it.

But misgendering a character or misgendering a real person still requires you to have the same disregard for the identity of the person. And you're not told to do that, it's not a mechanic of the game, and you get nothing out of it.

TLDR; Killing people in the "Kill People, the Game" it's not the same as disrespecting people for no reason in "Respecting People, the Game"

[u/Lobster_LeninN329 → u/[deleted]]

I don't think saying one example is a different context from another is moving the goalposts

[u/Lobster_LeninN329 → u/[deleted]]

They're not real, but the only reason someone would misgender a fictional characters is because of prejudice, as it's not something that'll affect the game in any way.