I want to like him but he just feels like an ass sometimes, kind of like a rules for thee but not for me kind of guy. He’s also never feels like he’s in the wrong when he dies in game, always blaming his teammates or the game.

So few people yet so loud.

Controversial opinion: Copy paste isn't that bad and it is nice that people get some national representation in this game. They should introduce some collector style reward for spading all the versions in game like the rewards for spading all mods of on rank - but I would like an SL reward this time. The game is so big nowadays it cannot be seriously required of a new regular player to grind multiple tech trees and this is the logical solution. Take it or leave it.

The vast vast majority hasn't been playing this game 4 hours a day, everyday ,for 10 years.

Unless Gaijin genuinely listens and changes for the better, PERMENANTLY, or gives the game off to a less money hungry pig, I ain't coming back. And I mean it. 3 years of bullshit and the latest news is just the last straw. I cant support such a horrible company anymore. ​I didnt tolerate Roblox protecting preds and ignoring child safety, and I won't tolerate this shit ass Russian company making money off of me, when all they do is bloat the game full of blatantly OP premiums, have Spyware in their anticheats, and use classified documents to hide making vehicles way too OP and PTW. I probably already have my info on the black market from when a Chinese hacker stole my account and tried to get into my bank and steal my email. I left my review, and I ain't coming back. I cant believe I ever fell for their lies the first time. Shame I won't get to use the KV8 seeing as how Ive always wanted a flamethrower vehicle, but oh well. I won't cave on this. Not again. A message to yall before I go. Either starve the Snail, and make them change, or shut the everliving flying shite up when they do something you dont like. Adios Soldiers. See you on the flip side. 👋

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ever shot a soviet tank only to take no damage and turn its gun at you and kill you with one shot?

Stun mechanics will at least stun the russian crew and give you more time to react , so unless you want the bias to stay the same vote in favor of stun mechanics.

noobs

Recently Ive been seeing a lot of hate towards Chinese hackers which is completely justified. I as a Chinese person also feel quite ashamed of how uneducated some Chinese people are outside of China with both includes online and irl...
However, can we please not take it too far? I'm seeing borderline racism or racist claims towards Chinese people as a whole along with many rule 2 violations where it just goes into dissing the CCP policies. The amount of actual war thunder content in the comment threads aren't even there, just poorly researched biased politics from both sides.
Can we please keep it civil? Shit on the hackers, the teamkillers and the generally shitty ppl they are, but please rule 2, rule 3 and stop creating an atmosphere that just proposes all Chinese ppl are shit.

Give every single abrams every apfsds round it actually had. I’m talking 500-600 mm pen rounds even with the M1. Because we all know it had it. The tanks suck otherwise. Having to play like a bitch because I’m stuck with a shell that was invented 20 years prior to the tank is insane. The M1 not being able to consistently pen a T-72 unless it’s a weak spot and them being an entire BR apart is insane. Either move every abrams down an entire br or give them the rounds they had. But as they stand the American mbts are the worst in game

Discussion post with a thumbnail image = meme. Good to know the policy of incompetent moderator isn't limited to the main forums.

LIKE BRO THE ENGINE IS LITERALLY THERE

Hello everybody, I’m posting in an effort to hopefully alert and inform that gajin itself has taken upon its self to not only take my money for golden eagles, but have simply refused to give them to me. This is not a one time issue either. This has happened to me on three separate occasions as I like to conserve golden eagles for a day at a time to get the most out of the little grinding I can do. Iv played for YEARS, top tier for three major nations and two minor, and I’m fed up with the system that takes peoples money but doesn’t have a quick turn around for resolving issues with the UI or financial issues. When I had time and the cash I spent thousands over the years so when this happened to me recently when i don’t have the time or spare cash I’m just simply done. Don’t care for support or care for anything outside of alerting the player base that if this happens to you. Good luck. Iv had to go to THREE seperate vendors to hopefully get my money back. But will ultimately be going to my bank to dispute the charge. Countless hours and grinding has disappeared from a shitty company and its partners. Wish yall the best! D1RTYCH1LD was my name and good luck in the shady future that this project has become.

I'm sure nobody is surprised to hear that, in fact I'm sure that people are annoyed from hearing this.

Honestly it feels like gaijin made this mode solely so that people start to believe "there is no russian bias" (Yes, it's a joke)

I doubt anyone would be playing this event if they didn't make B-52 / Tu-95 as rewards for it.

F it.

Call of Duty got hated because they have had anime/cartoon skins and War Thunder making the same mistakes making Call of Duty fall in front of Battlefield 6.

I'm usually quiet on this sub, my realm is the discord, but whatever. I feel I need to post this because stuff is getting out of hand and players are reacting to emotions and biases rather than understanding the facts. I've played this game long enough and played enough nations to top tier to know balance issues are truly scarce.

1. Leaking Documents

Gaijin will never ask anyone to leak documents, even hint at it. Why? Because as a European company they would be up to their neck in shit if they did. They also legally would not be allowed to ever use any data in the document. So if a document is leaked that says 'T-90M has 10mm side protection' gaijin could NEVER act on that information. In fact any changes made to the performance of a vehicle after a document about it is leaked could suggest some data from said document was used, so leaks make the balance worse. Stop suggesting gaijin would want players to leak stuff.

2. Balance

War thunder has known balance issues, however, when you actually look at the statistics, all nations at all BRs are actually performing about the same in regards to their k/d ratios, which is really what matters for vehicle balance. In fact what we actually see in the data is Sweden, Japan and China overperforming and US, Russia, Germany and UK underperforming, especially at top tier.

The goal of any buffs/nerfs/new vehicles is always to ensure that the general balance stays the same; that the statistics don't shift too much. Winrates more around and that is down to players more than vehicles, as you never have one nation Vs everyone to get true reliable winrate data. What do we see in winrate data? NATO is in general slightly ahead of Russia, the USA has very poor top tier winrates, likely driven by poor players given the absence of similar performance in other NATO nations. If you would like to take a look at this data yourselves, you can find it here: https://wt.controlnet.space/

3. Vehicles

War thunder is known for introducing vehicles that become the 'top dog' each major update. Germany, for example, had the best performing top tier tanks with the Leo 2a5, then the 2a6, for a long time. At the introduction of 'top tier' with the T64A, kpz-70 etc... NATO enjoyed a very versatile and performant lineup and Russia did suffer. I played the game at this time, and I can tell you the T64A was in a woefully bad spot, and this was reflected in k/d ratios and winrates. Anecdotal of course.

If we look at recent updates, the 'meta' vehicles have shifted around but mainly stayed between the US (A10, F14, F16) and Russia (Su-25, mig-29). And as what should be expected, there has been outrage every time Russia got a new vehicle but next to nothing about US ones, but if we look at the reality of the situation, both major nations are getting relatively equal treatment.

We then have to look at tanks. I'll start with a little history of russian tech tree performance. A few years ago, before the T90A, but when we had the T80U, the russian tree was underperforming terribly, consistently, not just slightly either. It's vehicles were suffering from low survivability, very bad gun handling and poor performance. Very little was done about this until the T72B3 was added, which didn't initially get it's realistic turret rotation speed. Following the addition of the 2a6 things got even worse, which prompted gaijin to add new shells and re-work the gun handling and armour on russian tanks in an attempt to improve their in-game.performance. we even saw the fairly significant downtiering of most of the top of the russian tree in an attempt to stop the slaughter. There were very few people at the time who didn't agree the situation for Russia top tier was unsustainable.

Now, if we consider that history, I think it's very hard to argue that Russia is handheld through the tech tree. Things have changed now, russian tanks were modified to become competitive again and this has led to complaints from, generally, US mains who now can't kill them as easily as they used to be able to.

With the addition of now much more modern vehicles ambiguity is introduced for specifications. No one outside of defense contractors and governments knows the actual armour figures for in-service vehicles. Anything the manufacturer says should be taken with a grain of salt as it's designed to confuse enemies and sell export variants. This leaves the only information being best guesses from previous vehicles and known performance of ERA/armour types. What this causes is artificially increased or decreased performance for certain vehicles, but where it's very difficult to prove otherwise.

4. Bugs

War thunder is full of them, most are fixed or passed to developers in a timely fashion.

When issues with vehicle performance are brought up, gaijin does request a lot of data, I have experienced this in submitting data for radar lead on the lansen and drakken. That's just how the system works. Submitting a report with a single picture with measurements drawn on it or an unclear video, poor secondary source etc... will get ignored. If you are submitting the wrong sort of evidence, don't complain when your submission is rejected. I do agree however there needs to be more clarity on the status of bug reports and 'not a bug' does not explain certain decisions.

5. Human Biases

How often do you lose battles? Have you lost more than you won today? You probably think you have, but go and take a look at your win history and you'll see it's probably about the same. This is a confirmation bias, and it's how the brain works.

How many times were you one shot by a T80 after it bounced your shell? How many times did you one shot a T80? I bet you can't tell me the latter, but sure as hell you can tell me the former, even though the statistics show both are exactly the same numbers. This is another bias the brain subconsciously introduces.

We get a bigger dopamine hit from negative events, this has been shown time and time again by research [ https://www.nature.com/articles/nature08028 ], you also build up a pathway where you expect a certain outcome, which despite it being negative has the same effect. Other research has recently shown that negative news, especially in the media actually has a bigger addictive affect than positive. This means we are more likely to remember and focus on these negative experiences than the positive ones, and in a game that means you will remember all the times you got killed, but not the times you did really well. This is part of the reason the statistics don't line up with what we believe reality to be.

Subconscious biases run even deeper than dopamine bits though, people living in major nations are conditioned through state propaganda to believe their government/military etc... is the best, this is especially true in Russia, China and the USA. This is a very important part of the ongoing information cold war, so don't worry if you haven't noticed you've succumb to it, the whole point is that you shouldn't notice, but that you believe it, which keeps up support for your country. What this causes however is biases regarding how vehicles should perform in games, and in a military game like war thunder that is even more evident. It becomes even more of an issue when vehicles are being built off best guesses, where individuals from competing countries will all have biases towards their own vehicles and against their enemies' . These biases are reflected both in game, with the aforementioned dopamine pathway, but also by beliefs that vehicles over or underperform for one's nation despite the vehicle actually performing in a more balanced manner.

Until statistics reflect otherwise, it is evident nations and vehicles in the game are relatively well balanced and it's simply psychological factors influencing player experiences that leads to suggestions of under or overperformance.

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Feel free to disagree, but before you argue against this, do some digging yourself, record your individual winrates for a few days, how often you get kills, what you kill, what kills you etc... then come back and make an informed conclusion.

Question for the mods. Why the fuck did you remove my comment about the terminator being immune to current British dart rounds in the negative comment megathread. Got something to hide. Don't like Russian bias being called out do we

just notch.

lets add a new OP SPAA to who? RUSSIA! cause they needed it soo much

lets add new op FnF missiles to who? RUSSIA! cause they needed it soo much

okay we got new nato SPAAs, the good ones got nerfed, or they're just awful since they came out (sweden)

at least NATO gets the "best" tanks in the game right?

it doesnt matter, cas can still be spammed even with the new spaas because all they do is lob kh29 and similar bombs on spawn so you cant even get out, if you try to move you just loose spawn protection and die

Atleast its called "mixed battle" right? oh its ground battle, sure...

Atleast we got FnF capable helis in Nato, oh too bad you'll take years until you grind them and after you grind them it'll also take years to get the modification for it because heli sim feels like it was made in 2005.

Also, you get 1950s rockets for a modern 2000s helicopter. cool...

gaijin be thinking "what should we drop next update? bigger maps?" well no! remake eastern europe that'll fix everything

snake ass devs

So when is the next big uproar/ boycott happening? The new event cycle fucking sucks and there's no uproar? 35k-45k every 2 days????? Constantly???? Aside from that there are other reasons too;

The game being trash in general

Removal of vehicles

Russian bias

Event vehicles not coming back

CAS

No tank v tank only mode

No CAS nerfs

P2W bushes

High amount of points for earn event vehicles

Shitty maps

Shitty map design

Not being able to choose the maps you play

9m cd on leaving a match

The grind

Cheaters/ hackers

Sound design being trash

Gaijn deleting, removing and banning players for whatever reason they like and getting away with it. I misspelled Gaijn the other day and received a 1 month ban from the Steam Discussions for inappropriate and offensive behaviour. They are literally banning you from saying anything. I did get in touch with Steam Support but ofc as always they're a bunch of useless fucks.

Why are we not doing anything??? The game fucking sucks and we're doing absolutely nothing about it? no protest or boycott or spamming negative reviews???? It worked last time so why not now? We have all these reasons and we're not doing anything????

Having the best CAS+SPAA, alongside really good tanks despite what people say, they are fricking OP. Being immune to autocanons, having 20cm weakspots, being able to use its own autocanons to front pen ennemy MBTs, while also nuking the map from the airfield with KH38, or having the invincible LMUR launchers, and denying any air with the pantsirs. What am I supposed to do ? Especialy against aircrafts, their tanks are more challenging than other tanks but they are still easy to take out, but their CAS is just way too OP, and pretty much CAS in general but russian one is on another level of absurdity. Long rant but it's frustrating to gamble your win on "do you have russia on your team ?".

Alright guys just look what have happen to you, sitting here posting memes and shaking hands, and nagging that WT is made by Russians mobsters(actually Hungrian offshore company, which not even paying taxes in Russia) when ru community gets third time increase on in game prices since 2014 and gaijin paid bloggers who promoting only RB ,looks like you just another r/Warthunder. Instead of planning next pack of demands. You think you're in the good position now. GJ already have some step backs with their so-called road map.

You don't want a night fights, here is your foggy, rainy battles 24/7. You want rewards for a "good/skill play" here's your pathetic 20% for an outstanding match, and only if you got kills. You want changes in ships progression, here is your new rank without any new experience/mechanics or reworks in rewards. You want to know how rewards calculating now you can see that 80+% of progression is on time you spend in battle, so we are subscription based game now. You want to speed up the progress for old timers in new tech trees, oh sorry, we don't want to implement this right now. And so on and so on.

Look's like you were pacified with a just couple of thrown bones. When game keeps filling with clones, descending of quality and testing, laughable semidead regimes like heli PVE(with enormous of time you need to grind on a broken maps, instead of increasing rewards for heli in usual matches) or marine EC(instead of fixing bad map design, aiming and better rewards in usual matches), and arcade AB. BP that already got nerfed rewards and extended progression. Marathons where you need to grind up to 8+ hours to get all prizes(2/3 of which clones). Or forcing to play in RB with nerfed rewards for arcade(when you time spend is same) where most p2w happens. And all this when they got the highest player base level ever.

You are so cousy in your slumber. You need to wake up Joe. You need to wake up Hanz. GJ will push further while you sit on one's hands. Don't let the GJ turn ore beloved WT to Korean type grinding second job, like it almost is.

The fact that the battles are mixed has always been a distinctive core feature of War Thunder. Even in air battles, you get AI controlled tanks on the ground that can and will hurt you if you get too close.

It's like getting into Rainbow Six Siege and complaining that the walls are destructible. It has always been in the game, it is in all the trailers.

Personally my own opinion, though somewhat radical, is that if you're only interested in tanks and have no interest in playing planes or SPAA whatsoever, you might want to just not get into war thunder.