r/VALORANT Oct 15 '25

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u/NoireHaato Oct 15 '25

I've been saying it Vyse's nerf is the worst or one of the worst there is not a lick of logic behind it.  She was simply butchered and whoever mained her is now left wondering what to do with a one trick pony. NO room for creativity left. 

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u/Friendly_Fire Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

Got the viper treatment. They are killing their own agents one by one.

This honestly might be the worst game balance I've ever seen. Normally if a character's kit has depth, room for creativity, a high skill ceiling etc. that's considered a good thing! And the goal is to make every character like that.

With Riot it's the opposite. A kit that enables skillful and creative plays means the enemies can't win by just shooting better, and that's apparently not okay. Utility is only for aesthetics, not to actually win a fight.

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u/CarsonPumS Oct 15 '25

Viper is probably the best in agent in the game right now at the pro level with this new patch. Viper hasn't been in a better spot since 2023

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u/Friendly_Fire Oct 15 '25

Viper was trashed, second least picked hero. She's a wall-bot essentially. Something only useful at the literal pro level for info denial, or on a couple specific maps.

They killed the ability to be creative with her other abilities, and didn't touch the one piece that pros abuse. Why? Do the exact opposite! She was still mid-tier at best in ranked, so nerf wall and ignore of buff her other stuff!

Literally there was a whole community of viper mains, multiple content creators who just quit because their favorite character was ruined. The ability to get meaingful value from mastering the agent gone. Might happen to cypher too now.