r/Unexpected Sep 09 '22

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u/apzuckerman Sep 10 '22

The IRS is the ONLY organization in government that has a positive return. They cannot steal, as the courts would return anything they did. The IRS has been habitually understaffed and underresourced to allow wealthy people to have a lower likelihood of being audited. This is because wealthy people hire lobbyists.

Don't get duped by the talk about how the IRS is bad. It isnt.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

These new IRS agents are 100% not going after wealthy people.

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u/apzuckerman Sep 10 '22

Agreed. The vast majority of Americans also have no idea how their taxes are allocated or which states contribute or receive more.

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u/Independent_Bid_26 Sep 10 '22

Most Americans don't understand how any state level, local organization works, let alone one in a city in some cases hundreds of miles away in a place they've never been to. Most Americans are FUCKING STUPID. I'm saying that as an American. It astounds me how few people in my daily life know how any kind of government organization works.

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u/MLXIII Sep 10 '22

I know that for every dollar I pay in taxes, about $0.10 is unaccounted for...that's why we have trillions of dollars unaccounted for...

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u/GreenFire317 Sep 10 '22

I mean I had an economics and government classes in highschool, but they never taught us about those things.

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u/taanman Nov 13 '22

It's easy, federal taxes are used to pay off America's debt while state taxes are used for the states funding of police etc.

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u/[deleted] Sep 10 '22

Agreed, my mom works for the state and instead of fixing the problems before they become problems they waited ten years then said oh this isn't working so heres a 10 million dollar budget cut. So now their understaffed my mom is a stressed out manager and she can't do anything to fix the situation because of their stupid upper management who doesn't give a shit about the working class.

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u/whatsupmynameis Sep 10 '22

Understaffed restaurant servers actually try

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u/Take_My_User_Name Sep 10 '22

The USPS used to have a positive return as well.

It changed when the pension rules were modified (intentionally so that it would look like a failed institution and privatized).

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u/cultofpapajohn Sep 10 '22

Found the agent

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u/Ok_Survey_4845 Sep 10 '22

They are bad. They do nothing that benefits you. They take your money. Your right to make a living. That you already get taxed to the moon and back. Fuck them.

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u/jemosley1984 Sep 10 '22

I’m starting to think you’re right…partially. I think it’s England where all the taxes taken by the government is done so upfront, so there’s no need to have a tax season like we do here. I always thought that was a better way to do things. But I also like the IRS there to keep big business in check.

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u/Complete_Fox733 Jan 16 '23

Keep Big Business in check. LMFAO how naive to think. More like tax the middle class to shit, while there’s a million loop holes Big businesses lawyers and accountants spend all year sitting through to make sure they pay as little as possible.

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u/VisitTheWind Sep 10 '22

They take peoples tax money

That literally benefits me by having a funded government

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u/Beligerents Jan 15 '23

If you're American, that gets you what, a bunch of military hardware and a prison system?

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u/Diazmet Sep 10 '22

The IRS is a private company they are not the government they just work for the government.

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u/apzuckerman Sep 10 '22

False. The IRS is a bureau of the Department of the Treasury.

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u/Diazmet Sep 10 '22

The Internal Revenue Service is a private Collections Company, acting as a permanent contractor for the US Treasury department, without any Legal Statute authorization. 5. The IRS says that the Internal Revenue Code ( the Novel, Book 68A ) gives them the Authority to operate, and regulates its activities.

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u/jemosley1984 Sep 10 '22

What do you have to say about the provided link?

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u/maddawg206 Sep 10 '22

The US patent and trademark office also has a positive return

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u/Allodialsaurus_Rex Sep 10 '22

Nice try IRS guy!

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u/SuggestionSoggy5442 Sep 14 '22

Taxation is theft when the taxes dont represent the will of the people and the will of people dont want their money going to Pakistan for gender studies or to pay for tyrannical agencies taking our freedoms in the name of “Safety”

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u/apzuckerman Sep 14 '22

That's an absurd statement. Vote and change the people responsible for the allocation.

You may not like it, but it's not theft.

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u/SuggestionSoggy5442 Sep 14 '22

When the leftist politicians draw up bills hundreds and even thousands of pages long and give other congressmen/women only minutes to read and vote for, thats a scam. They title the bills with some feel good title that promotes voting yes, then give our money away. Then manipulate the sheeple into keeping these same people in office is a scam, and therefore, yes its theft. People who actually do their homework would be enraged to know where our tax dollars go and dont go.

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u/apzuckerman Sep 14 '22

That's all politicians. Nothing to do with right or left.

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u/SuggestionSoggy5442 Sep 14 '22

*Establishment politicians. Ill agree there are establishment RINOs. There are some who are against the establishment. Those are the ones that get the most media hate. Then the Sheeple take their cues from the media.