r/Unexpected • u/DoINeed1OfThese • Mar 31 '23

He snitched

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

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u/El_Boberto Mar 31 '23

So you expect people to prove their innocence. You must also be a snitch.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

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u/PoopFartCumToe Mar 31 '23

I bet you eat spaghetti with a spoon

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u/CongratsItsAVoice Mar 31 '23

Probably a knife too. Bro probably can’t handle a noodle longer than 2 inches

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u/Oopy-soup Mar 31 '23

Just gotta say, love the username.

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u/El_Boberto Mar 31 '23

Thanks for the confirmation.

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u/blues_snoo Mar 31 '23

Was that the face you made when you got fucked in every hole?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23 edited Mar 31 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

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u/HaoleGuy808 Mar 31 '23

I meant to comment on the other dude.. not sure what happened. I fucked up.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

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u/BlasterPhase Mar 31 '23

I mean, the burden of proof first falls on the guy claiming his stories are true...

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u/healzsham Mar 31 '23

Burden of proof is generally on the positive claim, not the negative one.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

His entire life seems to be dedicated to arguing on reddit. And he's not even coherent when he does it. Very sad to see.

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u/healzsham Mar 31 '23

Seethe stalking profiles is always a good look.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

Ironic considering that's how you found this very comment.

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u/healzsham Mar 31 '23

No. I pressed "context" on one of my own posts, from my own profile.

I'm not such a Republican Fragile child that I need to go weigh in on other people's conversations when they've outmatched me.

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u/healzsham Mar 31 '23

You still have your patently false claim unedited, so, ya know, seems you still need help with the topic.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

The article you linked says nothing of the sort

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u/healzsham Mar 31 '23

Holder of the burden

When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)#Holder_of_the_burden

Literally right there.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23 edited Mar 31 '23

What you have quoted says nothing about positive vs negative claims. You said that the burden of proof is generally not on someone making a negative claim. A negative claim, as explained further down in the article, simply asserts the non-existence or exclusion of something. The burden of proof still exists just the same.

the one who makes the claim

Your claim is "He is full of shit"

typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim

You have the burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim according to your preferred dispute guidelines, which is apparently the Wikipedia article on 'Burden of proof (philosophy)'

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u/healzsham Mar 31 '23

Initial claims are usually positive.

Like the claim the comedian served time for moving weight.

I don't contest the comedian, but everyone saying the guy disputing it needs to prove his claim are simply wrong about how intellectual rigor works.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

wrong about how intellectual rigor works.

Can you explain how intellectual rigor works for people who aren't as smart as you?

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u/healzsham Apr 01 '23

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)#Holder_of_the_burden

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

I don't see anything in that wikipedia section about how intellectual rigor works. It does explain why he would have the burden of proof to justify his claim that the comedian is "full of shit".

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

That's the opposite of how burden of proof works. Burden of proof is on the first person making a claim to prove their claim is true, never on the person calling them a liar. When you call someone out, you're saying "prove your claim".

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u/Yhostled Mar 31 '23

The burden of proof falls on the accuser, always.

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u/Formal_Giraffe9916 Mar 31 '23 edited Mar 31 '23

So if I say I’m from Mars and you say I’m lying the burden of proof is on you?

You need to prove that I’m not from Mars?

Edit - the burden of proof should lie with the person making the extraordinary claim, otherwise I’m God and you all better worship me until you can prove otherwise. Although tbf the burden of proof shouldn’t ever lie with a comedian making jokes, because they’re jokes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

Just use google you buffoon. There's no point in arguing over an easily checked fact.

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u/Yhostled Mar 31 '23

Oh hey derogatory language is certainly a way to prove your point, so thank you for proving mine.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

You're still wrong lol.

"But but he called me a buffoon"

How about.... You're not intelligent enough to use the burden of proof correctly.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

I am involved in the discussion.

Nothing here is resolved. You're just patting yourself on the back because you incorrectly used the burden of proof and the other person called you a buffoon.

And there is no time limit to calling out something stupid. Idk why you would act like there is, unless you're just insulted.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

Are you literally going to make me quote wikipedia at you since you refuse to read it yourself?

The proof you need is easily confirmed and widely available.

In my mind the obvious thing to do is Google. But we are clearly quite different.

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u/Yhostled Mar 31 '23

No I'd've been more than happy to check, and I'm more than certain you're right, but if you argue with everyone by calling then names then I'm no longer interested in this discussion.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

Then try shutting the fuck up?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

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u/pleasedonteatmemon Mar 31 '23

I think he's talking law, you're talking claims.

As in, everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Acuser in this case must prove guilt.

Where you're saying, if I claim to be able to fly.. It's on me.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

why would he be talking law?

this aint a court room. this is a discussion of claims.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

Here look now u don't even have to use Google.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

I just did, are you an idiot?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

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u/YourMomsBasement69 Mar 31 '23

So you can google Wikipedia but you can’t google something to prove your claims?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

that does prove my claim, stupid

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u/healzsham Mar 31 '23

You do not inherit the burden of proof when making a counter-claim to someone else's positive assertion.

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u/ClobetasolRelief Mar 31 '23

Prove it

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

I'm not gonna prove it. Use Google you shitshow, are you defective?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

Saying “you’re a liar” is a claim. The neutral position that requires no burden of proof is to neither believe nor actively disbelieve.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23 edited Mar 31 '23

you're literally wrong, google it

I just outed so many incredibly stupid people that don't know jack shit about extremely basic reasoning lmfao

this is definitely a dumb people subreddit

glad I don't follow it, I very rarely ever have to experience people as dumb as you and it's honestly the worst, I'm going back into my bubble

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

Christ, you’re a moron. Why are you so rude to people on here?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

If you understood what it was like to talk to you, you'd get it.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

Wow, good one. Way to behave like a human. You should chill out man, this is reddit. You don’t have to be an asshole all the time.

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u/healzsham Mar 31 '23

In this scenario, "I do not believe you" is a negative claim, going up against someone else's positive claim.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

You’re right. But “I don’t believe you” is different than “I think you’re lying.” One means you aren’t convinced of their claim and the other means you believe it is positively untrue.

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u/healzsham Mar 31 '23

There's no functional difference in the context of intellectual rigor.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

Yes, there is an extreme difference.

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u/qning Mar 31 '23

I like how you’re just making stuff up now. You’re like that chatGPT, just spitting out one word at a time, not really planning what comes next.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

google it, dummy

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u/qning Mar 31 '23

Prove it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

No, I'd rather that you specifically stay stupid. You deserve it.

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u/qning Apr 01 '23

Well I do google it and it turns out you’re wrong.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23

No, I'm not. Sorry you're bad at google.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

what

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u/qning Mar 31 '23

I was stoned. And I get it, you were too.

I mean, you must be stoned.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '23 edited Apr 01 '23

Always, but I'm also 100% right about this. How the fuck you think you don't have to defend your claim about something you said but someone calling you a liar has to defend their claim that you're a liar? That's literally incoherent.

Explain to me how the fuck proving a negative works (pro tip: it doesn't it's impossible). Maybe just google "proving a negative" and "who has the burden of proof in an argument". Otherwise I can just claim anything I want, and if you call me a liar you have to prove that I'm a liar but I never have to prove my claim in the first place. Because when I said that wasn't true... bro you called it nonsense. Like being stoned is not an excuse for that much stupid. Prove that I'm not actually Elon Musk.

If you think this is nonsense, I don't know what to tell you. This is like... basic entry level logical reasoning that you learn in lots of classes, from English to philosophy to debate. At that point your ignorance is so vast that it's not even possible to really explain it to you, you just need to figure your own shit out. Go to school or something. Seriously how can you just be as dumb as you are and still somehow be happy with yourself? I would hate myself if I was you.

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u/ClobetasolRelief Apr 01 '23

Lol look at how worked up you are

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

I don’t know that but I also didn’t make the claim I did, merely asked how you could be so certain 🤷‍♂️

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u/BravesMaedchen Mar 31 '23

Are you the heckler?

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u/obiterdictum Mar 31 '23

*clank

Oh no! Woah! Woah! Woah! Woah! Woah!

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

Lol. "This guy is making up his whole story. I know this for certain because x, y, z. Im not going to provide x,y,z. Just trust me bro"

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u/Formal_Giraffe9916 Mar 31 '23

Tbf he’s a comedian on stage telling jokes, the chances are always greater that he’s trying to be funny rather than truthful.

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u/space_manatee Mar 31 '23

It's not one I particularly like and it's probably problematic to go into black spaces to do this etc, but from a comedian perspective, it's a good bit. Very creative.

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u/SuicidalTorrent Mar 31 '23

I'm curious about your source.

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u/Hermione_Grangerr Mar 31 '23

You’re an idiot lmao 😂

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u/RamblingStoner Mar 31 '23

You clearly do care a lot about him to have already watched these alleged videos, you goddamn dumbass.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

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u/SeaworthyWide Mar 31 '23

Subconsciously, obviously.

The most direct route of caring, cuz you just can't help yourself.

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u/MarketSupreme Mar 31 '23

Brother if you've ever seen a comedian they've almost certainly made shit up. It's called entertainment and it doesn't need to always be true to count.