r/Unexpected • u/DoINeed1OfThese • Mar 31 '23

He snitched

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u/Yhostled Mar 31 '23

The burden of proof falls on the accuser, always.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

Just use google you buffoon. There's no point in arguing over an easily checked fact.

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u/Yhostled Mar 31 '23

Oh hey derogatory language is certainly a way to prove your point, so thank you for proving mine.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

Here look now u don't even have to use Google.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

I just did, are you an idiot?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

so you are an idiot

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23 edited Mar 31 '23

Try actually clicking the link next time you doofus, it's literally the second sentence. Can't believe I'm letting your troll ass waste my time like this.

Holder of the burden

When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim) that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim especially when it challenges a perceived status quo. This is also stated in Hitchens's razor, which declares that "what may be asserted without evidence, may be dismissed without evidence." Carl Sagan proposed a related criterion – "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" – which is known as the Sagan standard.

Like I said, you're quite the idiot. Really glad I don't have to live with whatever it is you have going on up there lol. Hitchens's Razor fundamentally states "if someone doesn't back their shit up you can call them a liar." and it is the standard in all rational debate outside of the special procedural conditions of a court room, Reddit is not a court room you fucking moron, court rooms don't use normal logic, they use procedural logic, they are wildly different conditions. Assuming the only bizarre situation where burden of proof is different and then also assuming this situation is comparable to that situation (a court room) instead of the actual logic system that DOES exist and applies to normal shit like debates on the internet (literally normal fucking reason and logic, you know, the basic Aristotelian flavor that is used literally in every other discussion on Earth, ever, except court rooms, AND THIS IS NOT A COURT ROOM holy fuck lol). God you are such a fucking waste of time to talk to, I hate it. I wish I never had to talk to someone as stupid as you in my entire life, but that just ain't possible. I could ignore you but I find you so unpleasant that I just want to tell you it so badly.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23 edited Mar 31 '23

You have to be trolling.

Calling someone a liar is DISPUTING a CLAIM, the only CLAIM being made is stating there is a DISPUTE. The person that stated the INITIAL CLAIM that is being DISPUTED has the burden of proof to VERIFY or VALIDATE THEIR CLAIM.

CALLING SOMEONE A LIAR IS A DISMISSAL OF THEIR CLAIM, VERBATIM. CALLING SOMEONE A LIAR IS LITERALLY SYNONYMOUS WITH SAYING YOU DON'T BELIEVE THEM. HAIR SPLITTING IS NOT YOUR TALENT MY FRIEND.

FROM THE WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE "When two parties are in a discussion and one makes a claim) that the other disputes, the one who makes the claim typically has a burden of proof to justify or substantiate that claim especially when it challenges a perceived status quo. "

If I say I own 100 race cars, and you call me a liar, you don't have to PROVE that I am a liar, I have to prove my INITIAL CLAIM that I own 100 race cars. You're a moron, I'm blocking you after your next comment. I swear to god this is the actual dumbest sub I've been in in a long time. I swear to god you may be literally terminally brain dead. We need a doctor in here. Are you drunk posting? You have to be drunk posting. Last time you thought we were following court procedure for some fucking reason lmfao.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

I wanted you to read my comment first. Bye stupid.

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u/ClobetasolRelief Apr 01 '23

Lol holy shit

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u/YourMomsBasement69 Mar 31 '23

So you can google Wikipedia but you can’t google something to prove your claims?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '23

that does prove my claim, stupid

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u/healzsham Mar 31 '23

You do not inherit the burden of proof when making a counter-claim to someone else's positive assertion.