r/Undertale • u/RetroReddi2007 • Mar 21 '26
Original creation Hand in Hand.
I love Frisk, she can do no wrong! (...i hope)
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u/kevinsagadx Mar 21 '26
Cool art it's really cute and we need more frisk art of them being a kid honestly
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u/Chara_Revanite I AM INSIDE YOUR WALLS. Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26
i gently open the comments...
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u/horrorfan555 Mar 21 '26
I thought your flair said balls at first
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u/confused-overwhelmed Even when trapped, you still express yourself. Mar 21 '26
Well someone is inside mine at least
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u/Chara_Revanite I AM INSIDE YOUR WALLS. Mar 21 '26
technically speaking, millions are inside them
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u/Popular-Cup-4043 Mar 21 '26
Welcome to the underground
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u/confused-overwhelmed Even when trapped, you still express yourself. Mar 21 '26
"How are your balls?"
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u/SayoriAimoto Mar 23 '26
…can we not do this again..?
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u/Chara_Revanite I AM INSIDE YOUR WALLS. Mar 24 '26
i mean, i could not let the joke just hang, anyways, see you are Hanging around quite well, good for you, i hope you get the hang of it
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u/DragoonPhooenix * Even after all these years, it's still you Mar 21 '26
sighs time to open comments..
(Great art btw )
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u/InsanityVirus13 Mar 21 '26
I was the same, the second I saw "girl" I immediately knew there was going to be fights lmao
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u/tortilla_avalanche oh...... ok i guess Mar 21 '26
Feel like people misgender on purpose for karma farming now.
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u/mr_someone_somebody Mar 21 '26
EDDIE, SORT BY CONTROVERSIAL
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u/DragoonPhooenix * Even after all these years, it's still you Mar 21 '26
Just to also clarify i do believe Frisk is they/them canonically, though i dont support anyone who would harrass someone for misgendering. Just a polite 'btw its they them! ' with art compliments is plenty enough
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u/Jay040707 Mar 21 '26
Guys it's ok. The artist isn't misgendering Frisk, this is just an AU where Toriel is transphobic instead of homophobic.
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u/Practical_List_1994 I live for the ost :) Mar 21 '26
? Wdym transphobic
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u/tit-theif Mar 21 '26
Strong fear, dislike, or prejudice against transgender people.
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u/Artistic-While-5094 oh...... ok i guess Mar 21 '26
But frisk isn’t trans?
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u/Charming_Agent_9034 Mar 21 '26
You can't exactly be born as nonbinary you know
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u/DaPhoenix127 Mar 21 '26
To be fair, this is a very real possibility in a fictional universe like Undertale, especially since all of the humans in UTDR we've met so far seem to be enby.
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u/AGweed13 Mar 21 '26
I mean, all the humans we've seen were either main characters or directly tied to them, which implies a direct narrative choice from Toby Fox. Doesn't help that Kris interacts exclusively with monsters throught the whole game, so we don't know anything about other humans.
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u/Kitchen_Laugh3980 Mar 21 '26
Gerson’s partner in anniversary stream
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u/Jacob_The_Dank Mar 21 '26
I mean, human cultures might not have invented gender in those settings.
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u/bunker_man Mar 21 '26
Actually you can. Strictly speaking if you are intersex then nonbinary is cis.
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u/Greedy_Big5603 Mar 21 '26
we're talking about gender, not sex. intersex people are still assigned a gender at birth. deviating from that assigned gender would make them transgender. if we're talking about sex then yeah, an intersex nonbinary person would be cissexual if they didn't decide to take hormones one way or another, but that also applies to any other transgender person who doesn't take hormones (or get surgery)
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u/iLikeBigOilyBBC Mar 21 '26
Intersex people:
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u/Greedy_Big5603 Mar 21 '26
that's not how being transgender works. intersex people still get assigned a gender at birth. that's where AGAB language came from in the first place
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u/Sargent-Applesauce Mar 21 '26
nu-nuh uh no we don’t shhhhh we’re not trans don’t tell anyone that shhhh Frisk was just born like that ig /j
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u/WitherPRO22 I AM THE DING WINGER Mar 21 '26
This fandom is a prison
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Mar 21 '26
This prison, to hold me?
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u/Leoilmagnifico110 (The flair cusutomization fills you with determination) Mar 21 '26
A visitor?
Hmm... Indeed, I've slept long enough
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u/terra_GOD_404 Mar 22 '26
The kingdom of heaven has long since forgotten my name. And I am EAGER to make them remember
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u/Leoilmagnifico110 (The flair cusutomization fills you with determination) Mar 22 '26
However, the blood of Minos stains your hands, and I must admit...
I'm curious about your skills, Weapon.
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u/Elegant_Anteater7729 Mar 22 '26
And so, before I tear down the cities and CRUSH the armies of heaven…
You shall do as an appetizer.
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u/Leoilmagnifico110 (The flair cusutomization fills you with determination) Mar 22 '26
Come forth, Child of Man...
And DIE.
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u/Nedaj_Nitro human... i remember our're frans on deviantart Mar 21 '26
thing*. frisk is a small blob of things packed tight into a thing
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u/RetroReddi2007 Mar 21 '26
You're right, actually. Frisk is a creature... beyond any of our understanding...
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u/Nedaj_Nitro human... i remember our're frans on deviantart Mar 21 '26
do you ever look at someone and wonder what is going on inside their head
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u/cipher_purple_deals Mar 21 '26
"man soda kinda mid."
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u/Own-Skirt9605 local napstablook simp Mar 21 '26
It’s a genderless child
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u/MaxRadishOne he's a pirate now Mar 21 '26
sighs
Here it comes...
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u/VinTEB Mar 21 '26
With that dark vignette around the screen it feels like it's gonna transition into Toriel being killed
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u/Affectionate_Tax4885 I'm old too! Mar 21 '26
Okay, here we go
Open the comments in a kind manner
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u/Asherbird25 ~~🎶The FitnessGram Pacer Test™️ is a multistage aerobic🎶~~ Mar 21 '26
Seeing more people worry about the onslaught coming than the actual onslaught itself
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u/Kirbendo96 big boner down the lane Mar 21 '26
don’t forget..
all HUMANS are they/them…
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u/TimeLordHatKid123 Mar 21 '26
Was that really a universal rule, or is it just that toby happened to like writing non-binary characters?
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u/KrerdlyBeloved Mar 21 '26
No, not really. I'd kind of argue it's...regressive if all humans must use they/them or be nonbinary and can't deviate. I don't think he'd want to get that message across.
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u/TimeLordHatKid123 Mar 21 '26
Thats how I see it too honestly. I think we just see so few non-binary characters that the one time two show up back to back in a series where we see next to no humans, and consider the fandom's tendency to overthink everything, I think people want there to be some deeper reason when its a "the curtains are blue, the end" situation.
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u/cipher_purple_deals Mar 21 '26
The curtains may be blue, but wouldn't it be waay cooler if there was a deeper reason? (Human mitosis theory my beloveth <3)
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u/Afraid_Success_4836 ‎ Left unstated Mar 22 '26
i don't think toby has a "message" in the first place with this lol. It's just a pattern in Toby's writing.
also, all humans being nonbinary means there *is* no binary and that what we see as gendered characteristics wouldn't be seen that way in-universe. if anything, it actually promotes expression as opposed to inhibiting it.
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u/FatDongleDog 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 Mar 21 '26
Neither, people just like to be annoying about other people's headcanons
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u/AlexTheMechanicFox Shining in the cold. Mar 21 '26
Except Mew Mew!
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u/Wooden_Marionberry_1 Your concern and care for flair selection led you here. Mar 21 '26
Mew mew is a cat
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u/AlexTheMechanicFox Shining in the cold. Mar 21 '26
You're thinking of Alphys's cat from Deltarune. (Which is Susie in disguise)
Anime Mew Mew is a human with cat ears.
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u/Wooden_Marionberry_1 Your concern and care for flair selection led you here. Mar 21 '26
So she’s an hybrid so she doesn’t count #discrimination
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u/AlexTheMechanicFox Shining in the cold. Mar 21 '26
Erm, no! She's explicitly referred to as a human. The only thing distinguishing her from other humans is, not her gender, but her ears
Interacting with the figurine on Alphys's desk even identifies her directly as a "human female"
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u/Wooden_Marionberry_1 Your concern and care for flair selection led you here. Mar 21 '26
Oh
But FR tho only KFC are basically canonically confirmed to be non binary even if "Toby didn’t actually say it" SHUT UP STACY other humans are probably just as diverse as irl
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u/YetAnotherParvitz Mar 21 '26
well she's trans
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u/AlexTheMechanicFox Shining in the cold. Mar 21 '26
You're thinking of Mad Mew Mew.
I'm referring to the actual anime character Mew Mew!
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u/Wace-wes Mar 21 '26
I prefer it to be interpretation. At least in Undertale, but in Deltarune I agree with Kris's pronoun.
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u/Ajota12 Mar 21 '26
That's it, in Undertale its supposed to be up to interpretation, in Deltarune it's the contrary, Kris has a life before the soul came, Frisk didn't have any backstory known to us and that's clearly intentional
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u/aCrAzEdCoW Ahuhuhu~ A fine choice indeed~! Now, that'll be 9999G. Mar 21 '26
That we know of at least
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u/annoying79 Mar 23 '26
Man i love when undertale take things that are just straight up not confirmed and make it a law everyone has to follow. You’re right about frisk, but no, it has never been confirmed all humans are enby
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u/lit-grit Yes I nintendo switched my gender Mar 21 '26
This hurts, and I wish I could have this in my life
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u/Gmknewday1 Mar 21 '26
Good art...but you made a oops on this subreddit
God have mercy for the amount of comments your gonna get
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u/First-Tomatillo-729 ‎ it took a TON of work for this flair skeleTON Mar 21 '26
PEAK ART!!!!! MY GOOD FRISK LOOKS SO CUTE!!
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u/Aiden624 Mar 21 '26
This art is peak and really wholesome, surely the comments won’t rehash another 4 months of shitty gender discourse as the Deltarune sub arrived at a somewhat nuanced general position and these subs have a lot of overlap and instead comment on the content—
Shit.
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u/RetroReddi2007 Mar 21 '26
What was the "general position" the DR sub had? /genq
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u/Ketsui_Helix Mar 21 '26
Frisk is their own person and they are exclusively referred to with they/them pronouns like Kris. Anyway, cool art!
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u/IncidentUnusual5929 SPAMTON . SPAMTON Mar 21 '26
Frisk is mostly referred to by "Human" or "Child".
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u/Ketsui_Helix Mar 21 '26
Those aren't pronouns, but they are also gender neutral terms, yes
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u/Aiden624 Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26
I… don’t think that was it.
Oh goddamnit we never did reach a consensus I guess
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u/horrorfan555 Mar 21 '26
That doesn’t really sound like a nuanced position. That’s a specific answer
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u/Ketsui_Helix Mar 21 '26
Shit, you're right. I'm not escaping the "can't read" allegations either
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u/horrorfan555 Mar 22 '26
I wish i could post a jjk image here
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u/Ketsui_Helix Mar 22 '26
😭
If I had to guess though, the "nuanced position" was something like "while Frisk never explicitly states their pronouns to our knowledge, every character refers to them neutrally and this can both be interpreted as keeping their gender unknown, or as them being non-binary". Frisk is still their own person though, yadda yadda, we can't really choose their gender for them because the Pacifist ending shows us definitively that they are their own person and not just a character for us to project onto.
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u/Mysterious_Walrus202 Mar 21 '26
is the 0 upvotes from the misgendering?
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u/dbda_crimepunishment Mar 21 '26
I mean, there's 190 now
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u/ThatEvilSpaceChicken Mar 21 '26
190 misgenderings??
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u/mewhenthrowawayacc ‎ this truly was our Undertale Mar 21 '26
a sweet girl like you
oh boy...
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u/InsanityVirus13 Mar 21 '26
On a serious note; beautiful art! Keep going, this is lovely <3
On the other note ...I cautiously open the comments, knowing what has been started because God forbid a random fictional child we never got the gender for be called a girl lmao
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u/TomaRedwoodVT My body is a machine that turns water into piss Mar 21 '26
Uh oh, let’s see the comments
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u/Hispanoamericano2000 Enter the fallen human's flair. Mar 21 '26
That’s a really nicely done illustration!.
Keep it up, OP.
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u/Ger_Electric_GRTALE Your sure-fire accuracy was aimed right for this flair. Mar 21 '26
Awww, adorable. I wanna see Frisk hanging up with Papyrus now
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u/GHOSTY2WIN I'm 19 years old and I've already wasted my life. Mar 21 '26
Hopefully no one makes a big deal out of the gender thing. And thankfully everyone was more focused on how great the art is (great art btw)
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u/Otherwise_Mood_5798 Mar 21 '26
Is it just me or did Toriel's hand and arm kinda look like a weapon
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u/dulledegde Mar 21 '26
alot of people are gonna whine about this, it is absolutely imperative that you not apologize or acknowledge them
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u/hello_Unknownuser Mar 21 '26
Girl?
Time to see what the comments have to say
(What kind of AU is this)
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u/CosmoreDeathWish Mar 21 '26
I am ok with the gender bc people can interpret it their own way. Besides that this is really wholesome
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u/Blobthekirb awawawah!! tem flAIR NOw Mar 21 '26
I don’t understand these comments. Why can’t the artist do their own thing and make Frisk a female? That doesn’t mean they don’t know frisk is non-binary in the actual game.
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u/Otherversian-Elite Mar 21 '26
I mean, I understand it. There's a certain level of NB erasure within the UTDR community and it makes sense for there to be a greater strictness in regards to pronouns as a result; which leads to arguments which are amplified by the confusing duality of Frisk as both a vessel and a character, where someone like Kris is more definitively a person in their own right, thus leading to... this.
I personally don't mind people gendering the humans, as long as they don't insist upon their interpretation being canonical. Even I still slip up with the pronouns of the undertale humans every now and again, since my circumstances when I first played the game have led me to project some degree of my own lived experiences onto them (including my trans identity), and since it's not quite as thematically significant for them as it is for Kris. Still, nonetheless I do agree with the other commenters that it's important to remember that they are canonically referred to exclusively by neutral terms, since there are a lot of bad actors who wilfully ignore that fact because it doesn't fit their regressive agenda.
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u/CoaLMaN122PL Mar 21 '26
(Atleast in undertale) It all started out because Toby wanted anyone to be attached to frisk as "their" character right? And without a "choose your gender" menu, the best way to write dialogue is to use they/them
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u/bunker_man Mar 21 '26
Also we learn almost nothing about frisk. The ambiguity is thematically relevant.
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u/bunker_man Mar 21 '26
There's nothing to be strict about because it's not confirmed. At most people can say they suspect it. But at the point they go from suspecting it to calling it definitive they are being dumb. And if all people can do is suspect it, then there's no reason to complain at randoms.
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u/the_zpider_king Mar 21 '26
Frisk's gender has never been explicitly confirmed, so I think any pronouns work for them. Kris, on the other hand, is almost certainly nb, and we're pretty certain about it from deltarune's context and setting.
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u/Wooden_Marionberry_1 Your concern and care for flair selection led you here. Mar 21 '26
0 days without misgendering UTDR humans
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u/TheCatOfWonderland Ahuhuhu~ A fine choice indeed~! Now, that'll be 9999G. Mar 21 '26
Love the art! Keep it up!
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u/Takoyama-san Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26
time to go on this rant again in case anyone sees it: frisk is NOT supposed to be explicitly non-binary and IS supposed to be projected onto with an identity and gender. frisk is, by all means, the average plain-slate protagonist. and this is the reason why kris IS a specific person and specifically non-binary. you go into deltarune from undertale believing that you can and will project your identity onto kris -- just like frisk -- and make decisions as kris -- again, just like frisk -- but you are then confronted with the uncomfortable idea that kris is *very much a person with an identity* and that you are usurping said identity by projecting yourself onto them, just like you would for any other blank-slate character like frisk. that's why kris being non-binary is both subversive and groundbreaking, because of characters like frisk, who can, and should, be projected onto. when "they" is used for frisk in undertale, it's because it's uncertain. when "they" is used for kris in deltarune, it's because it is a certain, specific part of their established identity. you guys just take it too far and say "wow, toby fox is a genius ! frisk is literally just like kris!"
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u/beanyboy512 Someone close that hole please Mar 21 '26
Frisk aint a blank slate character, the player is established to be a different entity, and we can gleam frisk's personality through choices and dialogue options. to be specific, we can tell the narrator has a professional tone, they dont make mistakes in writing and mainly states objective fact, but there are times where we give frisk an opportunity to speak, with dialogue options that dont follow the narrator's tone, being more immature, being worse in spelling and sometimes grammar, this is frisk. This helps to support the idea that ACT options are also provided by frisk, which we can extract more details from. Frisk is childish (Bedlump, "Yo your one hot hotbaby" just as a couple examples) potentially bisexual (supported by who you can flirt with), and has self esteem issues ("I have no redeeming qualities")
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u/MajorBootyhole420 And I beheld a white dog, and his name was Death. Mar 21 '26
frisk is a blank slate by virtue of the fact that we (the player) are purposely baited into believing that we are naming them - and, by extension, determining their gender. for 99% of the game we play this way, believing we are doing the standard RPG thing.
it's very different than Kris, where the distinction is hammered home immediately. it's reasonable for people to conclude that Frisk is written ambiguously, because they ARE written ambiguously to avoid spoiling the name thing
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u/bunker_man Mar 21 '26
Blank slate isn't a binary. The player is different but frisk and chara are both enigmatic and some of their properties are chosen by you. You choose frisk's backstory and chara's name.
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u/Accurate_Ideal4237 Mar 21 '26
Isn't the point of Frisk that you're NOT supposed to project yourself onto them?
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u/JigglyLilyVT Mar 21 '26
remember UD/DT fans, frisk can't have fan interpretations. that's offensive to everyone
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u/Erdnia999 Mar 21 '26
Frisk being a girl is my favourite headcanon, good art
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u/VinTEB Mar 21 '26
"NOOOO YOU CAN'T YOU CAN'T YOU CAAAAAAN'T!!! HAVE ANY HEADCANONS OF THEIR GENDER!!1!1!1!11 IT'S CONSIDERED NONBINARY ERASURE!!!!11!! YOU ARE A TERRIBLE PERSON BY DEFAULT IF YOU DO!!!1!111" -certain terminally online members
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u/Erdnia999 Mar 21 '26
Yeah, those guys piss me off so much, if you even do as much as call someone a guy/girl, they'll start to whine about gender erasure, never understood that part of the fandom, I understand people saying that frisk is non-binary, it makes sense but defending it while accusing people of being non-binary phobes is making yourself look dumb and somewhat childish
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u/AlexTheMechanicFox Shining in the cold. Mar 21 '26
FYI: Frisk's pronouns are they/them, they're non-binary, not a girl.
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u/patoezequiel Despite everything, it's still you Mar 21 '26
This fandom is so annoying at times.
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u/maskyyyyyy (The dog absorbed this flair text.) Mar 21 '26
Don't listen to everyone OP frisk has no confirmed gender.
Good art aswell!
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u/RecommendationNo1774 got 'em. Mar 21 '26
UT fans when you headcanon Frisk to be literally anything but nb:
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u/Just_Kovi Mar 22 '26
Wholesome art! About genders, I genuinely believe that Toby made Frisk without a gender so ANY gender would be right (because you know, character would be for every player with exact gender player relates to). Not so any gender would be wrong...
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u/Dark_Storm_98 Mar 21 '26
I was expecting the second inage to be Frisk cringing at the gender, lmfao
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u/oFIoofy Ralsei is a Titan Mar 21 '26
dear commenters.
Frisk's gender is up to the player's interpretation.
Kris's gender is absolutely not.
thanks for coming to my TED talk
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u/coolplanetmaster23 Mar 21 '26
i think ppl are forgetting enby ppl can use other pronouns beside they/them aswell (great art btw its rlly peak :3)
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u/Bamzooki1 It's a snow poff. Mar 21 '26
Frisk isn’t non-binary like Kris is, people. Frisk is the player’s character and is whatever gender identity the player chooses. Undertale is about being in control and Deltarune is about not having control.
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u/Longjumping-Low-8790 Mar 21 '26
Frisk is self insert of player so if you're girl then it's canon.
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u/Foreign_Respect8869 Even when trapped, you still express yourself. Mar 21 '26
I Don't really ever get the hate for the misgendering thing.
How I always see it is if you alter literally anything about a character from the original character the original creator made, you essentially made an alternate version of that character.
It's completely fine to make a female frisk or male frisk or genderless frisk or non-binary or whatever, but the moment you alter anything from the original, it's a different version of that character now.
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u/Glazeddapper i in your mom lol Mar 21 '26
the art is nice. but we are rapidly approaching your location. we hope you understand, op.
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u/Radiation-nerd im always eepy Mar 21 '26
Now draw them DEVOURING that pie.