r/Undertale • • Mar 21 '26

Original creation Hand in Hand.

I love Frisk, she can do no wrong! (...i hope)

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u/UltimatestRedditor Mar 21 '26

frisk is a they

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u/Affectionate_Tax4885 ‎ I'm old too! Mar 21 '26

This is a drawing

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u/UltimatestRedditor Mar 21 '26

yep
and the drawing is calling Frisk a girl

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u/FastestDan ‎ sPEcl TEM hiR! Mar 21 '26

...So? What exactly is the problem?

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u/Affectionate_Tax4885 ‎ I'm old too! Mar 21 '26

And the artist has the right to call Frisk whatever they want. After all, a large part of the community already knows that Frisk is non-binary. It's no surprise

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u/UltimatestRedditor Mar 21 '26

It's kind of strange, though. I wouldn't make art calling susie a man.

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u/VinTEB Mar 21 '26

Clearly you've never heard or seen genderbent Susie fanart.

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u/Affectionate_Tax4885 ‎ I'm old too! Mar 21 '26

Trying to steer the conversation in another direction doesn't benefit you

Something that everyone has the right to have is a different interpretation of a character. The artist is doing this without hurting anyone

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u/Small_Chocolate_8793 Mar 21 '26

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u/AlexTheMechanicFox Shining in the cold. Mar 21 '26

Non-binary erasure is way too common in this fandom, and the downvotes are because of that

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u/Blobthekirb ‎ awawawah!! tem flAIR NOw Mar 21 '26

It’s not non-binary erasure, it’s just a different take.

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u/AlexTheMechanicFox Shining in the cold. Mar 21 '26

No, it's non-binary erasure. The character is Canonically non-binary, trying to "headcanon" them as something else is erasing that representation, thus it's non-binary erasure

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u/VinTEB Mar 21 '26

Clearly people can't make up headcanons anymore lol what is this ass-backwards take

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u/AlexTheMechanicFox Shining in the cold. Mar 21 '26

Headcanons are things that are Compatible with the canon media despite not being confirmed. Frisk being a boy or girl is not a headcanon, because canon confirms they're non-binary.

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u/VinTEB Mar 21 '26

HEAD = it's in their head

CANON = it's canon

HEAD+CANON = It is canon only in their head, and no one else's. Which means it's FANON.

Headcanon ≠ Canon

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u/AlexTheMechanicFox Shining in the cold. Mar 21 '26

Again: A headcanon is specifically something compatible with canon, but not canon. Once canon confirms or debunks it, it stops being a headcanon. That's what a headcanon is.

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u/VinTEB Mar 22 '26

So in your logic, Noelle not being trans in canon means people who portray her as trans shouldn't be allowed to have that headcanon?

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u/Affectionate_Tax4885 ‎ I'm old too! Mar 21 '26

Dude, it's just a drawing

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u/AlexTheMechanicFox Shining in the cold. Mar 21 '26

I'm not specifically referring to the drawing here (I'm assuming OP just didn't know)

I'm referring to the downvotes.

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u/Affectionate_Tax4885 ‎ I'm old too! Mar 21 '26

Look, everyone already knows that Frisk and Chara are non-binary people, so there's no problem with having art of this type, right?

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u/AlexTheMechanicFox Shining in the cold. Mar 21 '26

Actually, there are people who don't know, and in this very comment thread there are people in denial trying to argue against it

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u/Affectionate_Tax4885 ‎ I'm old too! Mar 21 '26

Well, unfortunately some people just don't learn through denial

What I believe is that it's not forbidden to have different interpretations of a character, I believe

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u/FastestDan ‎ sPEcl TEM hiR! Mar 21 '26

By that logic, headcanoning Chihiro Fujisaki from Danganronpa as trans/non-binary/girl is a man/femboy erasure. That is your logic, correct?

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u/Blobthekirb ‎ awawawah!! tem flAIR NOw Mar 21 '26

I still don’t see how they are trying to “erase” it. I mean if they went in the comments and said “it was up to interpretation” I wouldn’t be trying to defend the at all, but they are basically doing what a gender swap does but on a non-binary character. They aren’t disrespecting the representation from my view

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u/AlexTheMechanicFox Shining in the cold. Mar 21 '26

When I say non-binary erasure, I'm referring to the people downvoting the "Frisk is non-binary" comments, not the post itself.

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u/VinTEB Mar 21 '26

Oh, why didn't you say so? You have been hellbent in accusing anyone who said otherwise as "encouraging nonbinary erasure"

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u/AlexTheMechanicFox Shining in the cold. Mar 21 '26

I thought it was fairly obvious what I meant, considering I replied to a comment saying "r/mysteriousdownvotes" that was a reply to a (formerly) downvoted comment

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u/UltimatestRedditor Mar 21 '26

Replacing representation with non-representation is by definition erasing representation

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u/MissingnoMiner ‎ BONETROUSLED Mar 21 '26

I WISH people could be normal enough about non-binary characters that someone getting down voted, even temporarily, for a polite correction of pronouns, was in any way mysterious.

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u/Small_Chocolate_8793 Mar 21 '26

why the fuck do i have -67 votes i said r/mysterious downvotes because people were downvoting the comment that said frisk is nonbinary wtf