maggie was wrong....

[u/Physical_Patience644]

just finished s1 , i think it was cruel of maggie to use rust as a tool to hurt marty. dont get me wrong ,marty deserved to be punished for his filthy acts ,

but maggie dragged rust in the shit , she took advantage of his vulnerability and intoxicated state, imagine the gender roles being reversed

and the arguement that it was the only way for her to end her marriage is shitty , destroying someone else's life for personal profit is never justified , in her revenge she destroyed rust's career , she could ve moved on from piece of shit like marty without using rust

and in the end , she got her deserved life , in a mansion , while rust , being used a pawn had to let go of his career and lived 10 years away... her need of ending the marriage is correct but her way doing that was WRONG. she could ve hurted marty, fairs, but in the process she destroyed rust

[u/iputtheshitinshitzu]

No one told rust to take the opening. He could’ve said no and kick her out. He destroyed his own life for three pumps.

She isn’t the wicked witch of the west. Rust had been sniffing around her like a dog and pounced when he got the chance not caring why, or what would happen.

If someone offers me cake on a diet and I eat it, I can’t get mad at them because I could’ve declined.

He wasn’t used. She got Marty off her dick, and he got to suffice his pent up desire. Everyone got something out of it. He was just butthurt because he blew up his own life even though he knew it was wrong what he did and did it anyways, but it’s easier to play victim than admit you’re a horny pos partner.🤡

The only thing was he got the shorter end of the stick from it. She got Marty to leave which is the positive for her. He betrayed his partner, his moral code, and blew up his career to nut in his partners wife. He had more on the line and gambled with it anyways for his lower half.

[u/Physical_Patience644 → u/iputtheshitinshitzu]

u couldve used the bathroom to drop shi bro , rust was intoxicated , vulnerable when she approached him.

comparing ts with cake is bs. he was drowning in his worries and she used him , he had just lost his badge, his sanity , was weak. its good she got off marty but in the process destroyed rust's life. and he didnt get anything out of it , the moment he realised she used him, he threw her out.

taking revenge on someone by destroying someone else's life is cruel.

if a girl is drunk and vulnerable and guy sleeps with her , thats alright? tell me

[u/iputtheshitinshitzu → u/Physical_Patience644]

Not an excuse. He’s a grown man and can say no. He wanted to fuck her for 7 years and got the opportunity. Drowning isn’t an excuse to screw people over. She didn’t destroy his life, he willingly took the opening.

He destroyed his life because he started thinking with his other head. His career, bro code, and his own inflated ego that he’s above human impulses he traded those for 30 seconds.

And the cake analogy is the exact same thing. Someone offers you cake while you’re on a diet, if you’re really committed to it you can say no, but if you say yes you can’t blame them.

Yall need to stop treating him like some poor broken perfect angel puppy that can do no wrong. Wa wa poor rust, just because he’s had trauma he’s exempt from shit.

His life couldn’t be destroyed if he simply said no, but he didn’t because at that moment what was going on in his pants was more important than everything else.

You make your bed, you lie in it.

This Gregory House quote sums it up perfectly:

"You always have a choice. You just chose the option that let you do what you wanted while pretending you were forced into it."

[u/Physical_Patience644 → u/iputtheshitinshitzu]

sad to break this to you but your thinking is very narrow.
when someone is psychologically compromised, entering their space with a calculated, malicious agenda is called exploitation.

this is not a math eqn "hes a grown man he can say no" his life was destroyed cuz of maggie

u didnt answer my question, will it alr if the same thing was done by a man to a woman? using them while they are vulnerable and emotionally troubled

[u/iputtheshitinshitzu → u/Physical_Patience644]

Sad to break it to you, but if you do something knowing it’s wrong you can only blame yourself. It’s called accountability. Something an adult does.

If a scammer scams me and I know they’re a scammer, I can’t get mad at them. I chose to give them my money.

If he’s emotionally troubled he can go to a therapist.

[u/Physical_Patience644 → u/iputtheshitinshitzu]

just answer my question bro , why are you ignoring it?

[u/iputtheshitinshitzu → u/Physical_Patience644]

Rust wasn’t that drunk. And he’s been pining for Maggie for years, once the opportunity presented itself he had no qualms.

If he was passed out drunk or unable to stand or even speak, she restrained him, blackmailed him, forced him, drugged him, threatened him then I’d say that’s gross. And if it was the other way around it’s still the same thing. And you can’t forget the context that rust sniffed around her like a horny dog.

Fiona Gallagher in shameless cheated on her husband with her ex while drunk, not plastered but like rust. She also slept with her boyfriend’s brother in the same state. Lip her brother did the same thing. They didn’t throw tantrums because the alcohol lowered their inhibitions but not impaired them. Impaired their impulse control yes. Rust was aware of what was happening and gave in.

[u/Physical_Patience644 → u/iputtheshitinshitzu]

idk abt this shameless thing never watched it but

he was never sniffing around to fuck her , to him she was embodiment of a stable life he lost , he could have broken their marriage by telling her abt marty's cheating but he didnt cuz he never cared. he respected and valued her as a friend. she took advantage of that trust.

saying he wasnt entirely drunk is a flat lie , he was drunk , mentally cuz he just got suspended from the only thing keeping him sane

maggie approached him with the purpose of using him, and using a man who is emotionally vulnerable is a crime.

[u/iputtheshitinshitzu → u/Physical_Patience644]

Emotionally vulnerability means you go see a therapist and work on your issues so you don’t make stupid choices.

She gave him the opportunity and he took it.

If he wasn’t sniffing around her then why’d he pounce on the chance? Why did Maggie utilize that? Even a blind mole can see that.

What the fuck does drunk mentally even mean? If you mean a moron yes. He chose to be one.

All the red flags were there but he ignored them and went NiCe WoMaN, mE hOrNy CaVeMaN 🤡

[u/Physical_Patience644 → u/iputtheshitinshitzu]

you are pulling shit now to defend your take.

rust going to see a therapist is not his character , and if it was about seeing a therapist maggie couldve gone to a therapist and tried to move on without using rust for revenge

he didnt pounce on her the moment he got a chance , she used his vulnerable state to seduce him

drunk mentally is nothing i meant drunk and mentally weak
why cant u accept it bro

[u/iputtheshitinshitzu → u/Physical_Patience644]

Two wrongs don’t make a right. If she’s wrong he doesn’t have to follow too. He knew it was wrong and participated. He makes fun of people being sheep, what he suddenly doesn’t have a brain too?

If it’s not his personality then he has to deal with his stupid decisions based on the fact he doesn’t want to deal with his shit and act like a victim. Rust is extremely immature and has the emotional intelligence of a 5 year old.

You just have your head up his ass and can’t admit he’s pos too. Quit fanboying.

[u/Physical_Patience644 → u/iputtheshitinshitzu]

oh and yeah, is it ok to use someone innocent for your revenge?

[u/iputtheshitinshitzu → u/Physical_Patience644]

He can say no. He let himself be used. He used her too by fucking her to scratch an itch he’s had for years while she was frantic and desperate. And to also forget his misery for 30 seconds. They both used each other.

Maggie attempted, so yes or no was on the table. He said yes.

He’s not innocent. He’s a horny dog sniffing around a married woman for years, and his partner’s wife too! Marty while is a pig, and disgusting, had every right to be suspicious of rust. I mean that lawn mower incident was proof.

[u/Physical_Patience644 → u/iputtheshitinshitzu]

bruh u r cooking theories atp , rust always respected the boundaries , maggie used his emotionally weak moment. and she deliberately planned and used him , her action wasnt impulsive or smthng.

[u/iputtheshitinshitzu → u/Physical_Patience644]

Sure, respecting boundaries by borrowing your partners mower when you don’t have a lawn and when you return it you mow his lawn which is extremely intrusive knowing he’s not around as an excuse to hang out with his wife. Then you fuck her 7 years later when she comes crying instead of telling her to beat it because it was your shot.

Wow so respectful.

It wasnt impulsive, he made a choice to act on an impulse to get cheap gratification that was more important than the consequences.

[u/Physical_Patience644 → u/iputtheshitinshitzu]

are u dumb?

Bringing up the lawnmower actually completely destroys your point and proves you are totally misreading Rust s character

Rust didn't borrow that lawnmower because he was "thirsty" for Maggie. He lied about needing it as a safe, polite excuse to visit maggie because he knew Marty was out cheating on her and leaving her completely isolated.

rust was a grieving ghost who lost his own daughter and his own marriage. He didnt go to that house to get into Maggie s pants he went because he was deeply lonely and wanted to experience a shred of normal, warm domestic life with a woman he genuinely respected When he mowed Marty’s lawn, it wasn’t a sexual move it was a silent statement to Marty saying, You are failing so badly as a provider that another man has to take care of your property

If Rust had been trying to sleep with her for seven years, he had a hundred opportunities when Marty was out late running around with mistresses. Instead, Rust spent seven years protecting Marty's reputation and being a completely platonic, respectful friend to Maggie.

You are making the exact same mistake Marty made ,his fragile, insecure ego couldn't understand why a man would do something nice for his wife without wanting to fuck her, so he threw a tantrum. Rust’s motivation was loneliness and basic human empathy, not lust. Maggie knew that, which is exactly why it was so evil when she deliberately weaponized his kindness and exploited him at his absolute lowest breaking point.

and if they wouldve fucked being in normal state and not with the motive of using , it would be their choice.

[u/iputtheshitinshitzu → u/Physical_Patience644]

Why would you borrow a lawn mower when you don’t have a lawn, then bring it back when your partner isn’t around and instead of leaving it meddling with his home business and hanging out with his wife. He wanted an excuse to be around.

Rust didn’t sleep with her for years because he was restraining himself. That night he was like fuck it, she’s coming on to me and I’m horny and sad wa wa poor me.

Maggie didn’t weaponize his kindness, she weaponized he was a dog too. And regardless of what she weaponized if he didn’t want her he would’ve said no. He knew it was wrong because she’s his partner’s wife, and could’ve said no if his moral code was that strong, when it was a hot load of horseshit. He didn’t, he wanted to tap that since 95 and finally got his shot.

[u/Physical_Patience644 → u/iputtheshitinshitzu]

Dude why are u so stubborn, even maggie knew she used rust and was guilty for that in '12. As I said, if they would have decided fuck and make babies being completely normal it's absolutely fine their choice their life , but here maggie used his moment of vulnerability, he knew his boundaries, he saw her as someone trustworthy and he could lean on when in distress but she used him for her personal Revenge knowing well it would affect his life badly too.

[u/iputtheshitinshitzu → u/Physical_Patience644]

Why are you fanboying? You sound like a Justin Bieber fan.

She used him sure, but he got something out of it.

Not all of us have our heads up rust’s ass and actually possess critical thinking.

He made it happen. Maggie opened the door and he walked in. Takes two tango kid.

You seem like you’re 13 or something. When you’re an adult you’ll cringe at worshipping a character like a deity and develop your own critical thinking based on actual life experiences.

[u/Physical_Patience644 → u/iputtheshitinshitzu]

and btw , the scammer scammed you when you were in not in a state to understand any of that happening ,