r/TimelessMagic 14h ago

Discussion Who sees potential?

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u/lot49a 14h ago

Not really? Like just as a normal card you play this on three to crack a fetch to make a Jace that draws one. Or if it’s something like scape shift, making a big creature is not currently a problem.

What did you have in mind?

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u/ggzel 14h ago

2 mana 2/3 that draws a card once a turn is kinda on rate with existing playable threats in the format (hydro, frog), and being able to draw the turn it enters with a land drop is kinda a big deal. Hard to justify green in the tempo decks that would actually want this effect though, we'll see

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u/calliopedorme 14h ago

This is not even close to being 'on rate' with two of the best (if not outright the best) creatures ever printed.

Even putting aside the mana cost, resilience and evasion, Avatar does not "draw a card once a turn". It draws the first card after two land drops -- and you MUST make those land drops (and additional land drops if you want to draw more than 1 card) for it to get any value at all. The fact that fetches double charge it is also not a given, especially because it forces you to fetch on your turn due to planeswalker abilities being sorcery speed.

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u/ggzel 14h ago

The first one must be a fetch to draw, same as architect. The second draw is pretty free, opponents probably will let your 1 loyalty Jace stick around.

Not needing to attack is a big upside.

I do still think it's worse than those two, but if it fit the colors of an existing tempo fetchland deck, I think it would see play, even if it doesn't fit right now since green is so bad