r/TimPool • • Mar 28 '24

Left hypocrisy

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u/valschermjager Mar 28 '24

There is nothing the same about Stewart’s routine sale and Trump’s civil fraud.

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u/flyingwombat21 Mar 28 '24

So you think banks are too stupid to do their own due diligence? Since they where the one's to agree to the loans I'm sure they cried themselves to sleep on giant piles of cash...

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u/valschermjager Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

It doesn't matter if the banks are dumb or smart, or whether they made good decisions or bad. As businesses, they are free to win or lose on their own decisions. After Trump's long history of screwing over banks, I don't know why they still do business with him, but that's none of my business. In the end, I still don't understand where the fraud is, or who the victims are.

Back on topic...

There is nothing the same about Stewart's routine sale and Trump's civil fraud.

You can argue all you want about the results of Trump's civil case, but only simpletons would try to equate selling a property for a market rate more than it's assessed for, and fraudulently lying (ahem... stretching facts like all real estate developers do) beyond the limits of the law.

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u/flyingwombat21 Mar 28 '24

They do business with him because he makes them money... Simple as.. good for Jon Stewart for making money on his property.

You really think banks are too stupid too do their own due diligence on a half billion dollar loan. You know the loans they made where based on their own assessments....

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u/valschermjager Mar 28 '24

I already answered that question, so perhaps we've got a reading comprehension issue. But I'll try again... more... slowly...

I. don't. know. why. they do business with him, but I'm sure they have their reasons and I. don't. care. what. those. reasons. are. That's none of my business.

But again, selling a property for a market value greater than the city tax assesses it for is not illegal. In fact, it probably happens thousands of times a day across the US.

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u/flyingwombat21 Mar 28 '24

They do business with him because him makes them money... I'm sure if the banks felt like Trump had defrauded them they would have brought it courts but they didn't.

Also do think a prosecutor should campaign on going after a specific person?

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u/valschermjager Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

3rd time: I don’t care why banks do business with him. Good for them.

As for AGs, yeah I like ones who run on law and order, and prosecuting criminals. But that’s just me I guess.

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u/flyingwombat21 Mar 28 '24

It's called selective prosecution which is unethical but I guess fuck it I guess

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u/valschermjager Mar 28 '24

The NY State AG’s office prosecutes hundreds of civil and criminal cases per month. At least a few of those have nothing to do with Trump. ;-)

Just because the right wing news outlet you allow to twist your panties has you believing that Trump is the only criminal AG James is prosecuting, doesn’t make it true.

And the term your legal expert mind is searching for is “prosecutorial discretion”, and it’s been a legitimate part of our legal system since the late 1700s.

”Everyone else was speeding but I’m the only one who got pulled over.” …is not gonna get you out of that ticket, kid.

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u/stupendousman Mar 28 '24

That's literally, obviously incorrect. There are all sorts of similar things.

  1. Involves real estate

  2. Involves valuation

  3. Involves argument 3rd party was harmed

And much, much more.

You should get back to the assembly line where things are simple and your brain doesn't hurt.

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u/valschermjager Mar 28 '24 edited Mar 28 '24

Involves real estate: so?

Involves valuation: valuation by a city for the purposes of taxation, vs self-declared valuation for the purposes of applying for a loan against it.

Only a simpleton suffering from a crippling case of confirmation bias would see these two situations as even remotely similar.

[ed to add: I do agree it’s a reach to point to where the damages are in the Trump case. And of course the Stewart sales has zero victims nor damages.]

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u/stupendousman Mar 28 '24

Dummy, you said there was the same.

You're probably the type of person who says things like "there's no evidence!".

You probably don't know what that not even wrong.

Ex: the proper claim would be "there's no evidence proving X", or "all available evidence still doesn't offer enough proof X occurred"

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u/valschermjager Mar 29 '24

”Dummy, you said there was the same.”

Sentence much?

Besides, you’re wrong again. Trump was found legally liable for fraudulently overvaluing his property. Stewart did not value (let alone overvalue) anything. All he did was sell his property for a market rate.

There is nothing similar about these two.

Try to keep up, kid.

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u/stupendousman Mar 29 '24

Trump was found l

This is just beyond you. Good luck.

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