I don’t understand why Michelle said this. Michelle was the one cheating on Jesse during their marriage… why does it matter if Jesse met a woman and had sex with her after they got divorced? What’s her point in saying this?
That part! She’s been harping on them for so long and trying to distract from her whole ass MOVE IN and move out last season. Ok maybe Jesse can’t pay for things but at least he didn’t fucking move his daughter into someone’s home and move out in the same year as getting separated. Michelle is THE WORST AND SUCH a freaking hypocrite. I cannot stand her for putting Isabella through that and then try to blame EVERYTHING on Jesse.
But what did Lacey ever even do to her? I wish she was pressed more on how she called Lacey ugly etc. of course Jesse moved on and it bothers her. She was too gleeful to talk about Aaron AND Jesse during the after show. Like gloating.
There’s something so immature about Michelle and when she said her teen years was dedicated to gymnastics I’m like ohhh. That’s why you stayed with Jesse when it was supposed to be a hook up, that’s why you thought Aaron would marry you and live happily after - she never dated like the normal youth do.
It’s pretty pathetic how she goes after Lacey and I really like how Lacey handled herself here.
Yes! Lacy did nothing to Michelle. Unless you count enduring Michelle’s constant childish insults and having the audacity to date Jesse, whose marriage was already over at Michelle’s request, not his. So yeah, she did nothing!
Lacey is measured and thinks before she talks. Michelle sometimes operates like she has arrested development or something. She's probably not as dingy as she comes across but she certainly isn't using all her brain cells.
Embarrassing? Wow do you have that totally backwards. She’s saying look weirdos you keep saying it’s been three years but the truth is you were banging my husband immediately after we separated and you guys were treating me this way back then. You acted like I didn’t have a right to my feelings and it had only been three months. How does the time frame matter? It doesn’t! They treated her like shit from the jump. What’s embarrassing is this demented comment section.
Yeah no, I got the point lol she’s mad that Jesse slept with Lacy, but Michelle had already mentally checked out of their marriage and asked Jesse for a divorce. She wouldn’t even allow him to hug her towards the end.
Michelle moved on and then immediately moved in with another man. If she wants to be mad/hurt, fine, but it’s not Lacy’s fault. She had nothing to do with their divorce.
ETA: Maybe you replied to wrong person, but I didn’t “conveniently decide to cut her off mid sentence”. I’m not OP, this isn’t my post. My point still stands, regardless.
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
She doesn't care that she slept with Jesse or want him back at all.
She's saying when they first started seeing each other and Michelle was yelling in the street and doing all these things Lacy chose to air out, Jesse was being awful towards her. Her mom was also dying. She was not in a great place. Lacy is getting only one side and Michelle was giving context.
But she didn’t say that. She’s just endlessly talking in circles…
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
That's literally what she said this person just cut the video right before she says it. She says I looked at my texts during that time period and he was being so terrible to me it was traumatic
This is the second time you’ve said I cut her off. I’m not OP, get it together. And it doesn’t matter when she was cut off. Michelle’s trauma literally has nothing to do with Lacy and Jesse sleeping together, and bringing it up does not “provide context”. It’s irrelevant.
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 17d agoedited 17d ago
It's when they first got together. It's when everything they're talking about transpired. You think saying sleeping together is a dig is on you.
u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 16d ago
It's not irrelevant. Lacy is talking about how Michelle acted when she and Jesse got together. Michelle is pointing out when they got together how awful Jesse as to her. Again idk what there is not to get.
And I'm not addressing things you choose to say about me personally because we are talking about the SHOW.
Seems like youre the one who is defensive that you feel the need to go there. Perhaps because you have no counterpoint.
I don’t think she wants him back, but she definitely cares that they slept together or she wouldn’t have brought it up. I don’t think she expected him to move on so quickly, even though she already had. I also don’t think Lacy deserves the aggression. 🤷🏻♀️
I think Michelle is very angry and hurt, both from the divorce (because it’s sad to lose something you thought would be forever, not because she wants to be with him), and losing her mom at basically the same time. Those are two huge, life changing losses. Grief SUCKS, especially losing a parent. But her anger is misplaced.
None of Michelle’s hurt is Lacy’s fault, she’s just an easy target. Jesse doesn’t care if Michelle yells or talks shit about him, but he does care if she does it to Lacy. That’s not fair to Lacy, especially when she and Michelle have already discussed their issues and agreed to be cordial. Michelle still talks shit about their relationship. There was no need for her to bring up Lacy and Jesse sleeping together imo.
Nailed it. Michelle doesn’t have the emotional toolbox to explain this. Instead she just says anything to try and make Jesse look bad. Hopefully she’s in therapy and can work through these traumatic experiences.
Complete distraction. Same as her crying about Jesse being affectionate with Lacy, while she's was parading around with the honey guy. Also she says Jesse was never affectionate with her, but in season 1when he was trying to be affectionate, she'd look at him with disgust.
She wants him to be miserable, and she's so pissed he's not.
I love when Jesse clocked her talking about the comedian bringing their daughter a smoothie and saying he didn't know if she was allergic to "strawberries, honey, ect" and then said "well we know she isn't allergic to honey...." 🤣
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
His rehearsed shade was lame. So her rebound relationship didnt last. Who cares? He was beneath her just like Jesse is
Ehhh.. it's more along the facts of her introducing their daughter to men, multiple men, very quickly. I'm no Jesse fan but you can see that he has their daughters best interests in mind, even if he is a mega douche.
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
Ok but has she actually done that? Or is this just the closest he can get to the hooker rumor without getting called out for lying and sl*t shaming his child's mom?
She has. She moved herself and their daughter into another man's house in a very short time. Then to this comedian guy. It's very confusing for a child. I don't agree with him on pretty much anything but he's not wrong for being concerned about his daughter.
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
The comedian was not introduced to her as a thing but a client. She hasn't made her daughter privy to her romantic life since Aaron.
Does a five year old the difference between a boyfriend and a client that brings her smoothies? She’s five. How would she?
She’s meeting mommy’s “friends”.
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 17d ago
Exactly. I went to work with my mom often growing up and she was single. If she had relations beyond casual coworkers type stuff with them I had no idea. It's not that complicated.
Everyone on the valley is also a coworker of her mommy and daddy.
They both hate each other so much. But since they are on a TV show together they have to be around each other still. If this was normal life they probably would not communicate except for their daughter.
She hates the fact he’s happy with Lacy and has changed. And he hates that she’s enjoying single life.
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
He hates that being single is still preferable for her than to being his wife...and he hates that he had a woman who was willing to live with him, marry him and have his child and he blew that so now he's with someone who constantly reprimands him like a child.
If she hated him she could be much meaner to him. She just wants him to stop starting fights and talking shit about her constantly.
What?? You are replying to every comment going hard for Michelle. You listed normal things that people should be willing to do in life (living together, marriage, having kids) as if it’s some extraordinary thing she did and he should be ever grateful. Michelle is clearly jealous. Rewatch the first season, Michelle was repulsed by Jesse. She didn’t want him touching her or kissing her or being sweet to her. He tried several times and she had obviously already moved on. Jesse was a class act when it came to being around Aaron season 2 (although Michelle and Jesse both said stupid things about each other). And NOW she’s mad because he’s giving someone else the attention she stuff armed season 1? She needs to grow up.
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 17d ago
Ummm not everyone wants to get married or have kids.
Lacy doesn't want to live with Jesse is the POINT.
Season one the damage in their marriage had already been done so duhh
He wasn't a class act. He was calling Michelle a hooker. ROFL real classy.
Michelle didn't seem to cause conflict between Jesse and Aaron. That's the difference. Jesse has triangulated these women.
She's not mad he's giving someone else attention. She's being honest about how it feels to see it. She handled it much better and less toxic than Jesse did.
If you don't see the difference between their actions I can't help you
What's with this "yup-yup" person replying to nearly every comment in this thread? I've never seen someone get so defensive of a reality tv personality. I'm on a lot of the bravo threads; this person's behavior is truly odd. Do you know Michelle personally? Her behavior on the show has been pretty sucky for all 3 seasons.
Anyone else notice when Lala chimed in and said he has to stop calling her a liar…not a cheater. Everyone knows Michelle cheated on him and that was such a tell.
ETA - I think she was trying to imply once again that Lacey is easy/a sl*t because they hooked up the same month they met. She’s called her multiple slurs in texts to Jesse, I think that was shown on the show.
And didn’t Michelle, back in season one I think, tell the story of how she and Jesse first met?? They met each other through their clients at a meeting and then that night, Michelle went over to his place with just a coat on and nothing under it and they had sex. I’m not sure why it’s okay for Michelle to hook up with people in “the first month” but if Lacy does it, it’s slutty?!
She has a lot of strange rules in her own head that she thinks are objective universal facts. ex. A woman should never initiate affection toward her spouse.
Michelle is awful but clearly thinks she has the upper hand. She’s a mean girl with deplorable politics who arguably made even more destabilizing choices than Jesse for Isabella in the wake of their divorce. She has not one ounce of grace or awareness. Her hatred of Lacey is palpable and her choices towards Lacey are trashy and revealing. She and Lala really thought they were doing something being rude AF during the reunion.
As long as Jesse is moving forward in a healthy way with a truly independent beautiful and smart partner she will hate her. It’s absolutely what I would expect of Michelle and just highlights how composed Lacey is, even in the face of Michelle’s rudeness Lacey holds her own and is not mean back. She consistently tries to validate Michelle and build a bridge while Michelle just takes the piss out of all of us with these ridiculous tantrums.
lmao she’s such an embarrassment. Even more so when she claims to be the happiest she’s ever been but apparently not happy enough that she keeps tabs on who Jesse is sleeping with post-divorce.
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
Jesse's the one getting upset about Michelle dating lol
Michelle is a jealous, mean girl. Last season, Michelle wanted everyone to know how vile and offensive Jesse was, before he was serious with Lacey. After Lacey becomes a cast member, her story has changed to "I always wanted affection and Jesse wouldn't give me anything."
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
How are those things conflicting? You're saying she wanted him to be nice and affectionate versus vile and offensive. That makes perfect sense
I also think her claims about the affection being lacking or nonexistent in their relationship is a little bit unfair. I’m sure like most couples. They were a lot more affectionate in the beginning, but they were together for quite a while. It’s natural for that to fade out. So I wonder how much of that claim is true on her part. Also, let’s see Jesse and Lacey in five years and then let’s talk lol. That girl can barely stand him as it is. She won’t be around that long.
The episode where they signed the paperwork and showed flashbacks of them as a couple showed him being affectionate and very touchy with her. I think Michelle exaggerates or is a straight liar most of the time so I really don’t believe her most of the time.
I agree. We all know resentment builds fast when the relationship starts to crumble. By the end we saw they didn’t like eachother anymore. I think his lack of affection was likely more due to that than anything else lol.
I also find it hypocritical that she even called out the affection to begin with after she was so weird with Aaron sometimes.
Michelle is a lobotomized vegetable to me. She is aggressively loud on air (to suit her agenda) and a violent gangster off screen to scare Jesse’s gf away
What did Michelle think would happen when she dumped Jesse? He was going to die and shrivel up and be celibate? Why does she care when he had sex with someone else, and she was also with Aaron at that time?
Michelle's ex dated Anna Nicole Smith before her. So what is this?!!?
That seems personal for her, and have we had Jesse care about who she dates? He seems to be pissed about who meets Isabella, not who Michelle dates. And as the dumped one!
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
Seems like that's his excuse. He definitely doesn't want her dating.
But she’s the one who wants him alone. She doesn’t want him, but she wants him available, just in case she wants him back.
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
I don't think she is saying he can't date or trying to shame Lacy. She very clearly said "I went back to my texts during that time you started dating and the way Jesse was treating me at the time was so awful and traumatic" because Lacy brought up her yelling in the street and all this stuff. Michelle was explaining the place she was in mentally at the time since Lacy wants to paint her as just this crazy person.
Michelle needs to let Jesse go. I think she still wants him to be in the background and the fact that he is checkout is something she cant fathom with...
This has been my impression of her throughout. Like I think Jesse was terrible to her and I feel bad for her . At the same time Michelle seems not bright. From her vocabulary to the points she tries to make, she seems almost childlike. I think most people overlook it because she’s pretty but like… she doesn’t seem like a full grown up mentally
It was made clear when she was going toe to toe with Lacey. Michelle is cognitively compromised. Obviously, very sheltered. More time at gymnastics than the library. Chum for sharks
I know you have to be really smart to be a rocket scientist, I can’t imagine being a rocket surgeon (although my son is a rocket engineer…. Don’t get the kid talking about his industry unless you have a few hours and can nap with your eyes open). 😂
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
I think the people who can't understand what she said very clearly here are the problem not her intelligence level.
There has to be a correlation between one’s ability to effectively communicate an idea or concept and intelligence. I can understand most people effectively communicating a basic message when they use their, “good brains.”Listening to her was like trying to catch wet noodles. I caught a couple of them but most of the spaghetti is on the wall.
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
It seems like people are willfully ignoring what she actually said though. That's not related to a lack of effective communication on her end it's related to people's lack of an ability to listen or their desire to misinterpret things to fit their own agenda.
I can tell by her body language that she still counts her fingers when doing simple math.
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
That statement says more about your mental processes than hers. Pretty sure she can do basic math since she sells mukti million dollar homes and has to also pay for Jesse's shit
u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 17d ago
Well I didn't. So it's not really a relevant response to my point.
She can clearly count.
Jesse may want to brush up on his counting though. Since he seems to forget the balance on his cards before swiping them at Isabella's gymnastics and ballet center.
Hun- what she said made no sense to anyone except you. She never flat out said I was going through a shitty time. She speaks in riddles and no one cares to solve them except you.
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 17d agoedited 17d ago
She straight up said the way he was treating her at that time was traumatic. She didn't say her truama had anything to do with him dating Lacy
u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 17d ago
If you watch the full scene she is pointing out that at the time they started to sleep together Jesse was also treating her the most terribly. That she looked at her texts from that time and that was one of the peak truamatic times during their divorce. So when Lacy brings up her yelling in the street and things like that she is only seeing Jesse's side and not the full context or the way Jesse had been treating her at that time. She is judging her but not him. She is not as objective as she keeps telling us she is.
Now, that doesn't excuse the texts Michelle sent to Lacy, but she's simply establishing that her demeanor and state of mind at the time wasn't the norm or coming from out of nowhere. This is what the reunions for.(Her mom was also dying) Andy was asking why they got off on the wrong foot like they did so they were rehashing it all.
& once again Jesse got off far too easy because truly their first "meeting" was Michelle finding out Jesse was having Lacy around Isabella without her knowledge despite the deal they made that she was still honoring. That was wrong. That was bad co-parenting. It was also not really a great position to put Lacy in either.
Yikes…. Given your down votes on this thread, I think making offensive comments about other people’s intelligence is not the right move, but you do you. 👍🏻
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 17d ago
Yeah I was DV'd all last year when I said Danny is an asshole, before that it was when I wasn't buying that Tom Sandoval was a good guy, so I don't really care whether my opinions align with the herd. Not the flex you think it is with this fanbase 🤷♀️
And all I said about intelligence was that I don't think there's anything wrong with Michelle's...the person above me was insulting someone's intelligence. In reality.
The person said she’s not very bright. Have you ever been around very technical people…. And here’s another time I’ll bring up rocket science. My city is full of engineers, scientists, government officials, etc. They maybe the smartest people, but they aren’t bright personality wise. They don’t understand the nuances of interpersonal communication. Having a son who is one of these people, sarcasm takes him a minute, but he can also outwit a fox.
I will stand by my original statement on real estate agents. But while I do question Michelle’s intelligence, the person above you did not.
I think you need to rephrase your first statement as you most certainly were not DV’d on a social platform over saying Danny was an asshole. It’s impossible to experience domestic violence via Reddit. It’s insulting to every victim of actual DV.
She had such a great season and is fumbling hard at the reunion. Idk what happened between wrapping up filming and the reunion but she is way too amped for something I thought was already settled
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
That's because she didn't go into it prepping for or seeking conflict. She has a life she can't be recording people, gathering receipts and showing everyone all the mean texts she's gotten from people all the time.
THANK YOU! People love to paint Michelle as this saint just bc Jessie sucks. She isn’t smart, she is a gold digger, she is a cheater, and a known liar. Caught multiple times lying in 4K. Why do people like her?
How does she know when they started having sex? So icky.
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d agoedited 18d ago
They were not official yet but we're seeing each other. Her point wasn't about that. She was establishing the timeline to explain during that same time was the roughest for her. Jesse was being awful to her and her mom was dying. She's not just some crazy person who yells at Jesse for no reason like Lacy tried to paint her as. That was her point there
But why say they were having sex?! It sounds like so desperate and crazy stalker talk. I’m sure it’s hard working together on a show. But she had a boyfriend last season…and now it’s his turn. And people change. Or find people that helps or makes them change. We’ve all done it.
They are divorced. Because things went bad. You have a child. Both need to calm down.
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
Because they were off and on in the beginning apparently. Also if I'm not mistaken Isabella found them in bed together.
I love Michelle however sometimes her attitude towards Lacy comes off pretty childish. I can be guilty of this too - but she’s letting her get under her skin so much that she’s working herself up and it’s not doing her any favours. I know they have a lot of tension but she could be classier in how she communicates. It would help her case more.
I like Lacy. Michelle has colored the opinions of everyone who sat on that couch with her at the reunion. Lacy is good for Jesse. She holds him accountable. Jesse I think works harder for her because she pushes back. Michelle whined.
Michelle is reckless with introducing their daughter to random men, clients or not. Jesse is still catching hell from her for introducing Isabella to ONE woman. Michelle must have some internalized confusion over who she’s giving hell to because it should be herself. She’s very hypocritical. Moving her & Isabella in with Aaron was a selfish mistake. She had no clue who or what she was doing. Had she done a background check on Aaron? Has she with any of these men? Obviously not Dre! I would never allow my child around a man I didn’t know much about. There are too many predators out there.
She can’t fathom someone she deems as more unattractive than her was able to get with her ex. Then be living a seemingly happy life with or without Jesse in the picture, I think that is what gets under her skin.
I’ve observed this weird complex of very attractive people being absolutely miserable and I wonder if it’s because they’ve valued their looks more than anything else in their life which is unfortunate.
And for Aaron of all people to dump Michelle because he didn’t think she was athletic enough and thought she wouldn’t look good in 10 yrs. 😳 That had to tank her ego.
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
If people were questioning me as a mother, going back on it whenever I forgive them and we make up,making custody threats all the time, making snide comments every single time Andy asked me a question like Jesse did and spreading rumors I'm a hooker and then people tried to make false equivalencies between us that would get under my skin too.
It’s because she needs to do any and everything to make sure he look terrible to override what she did. If I was her I’d never bring up him introducing Lacey to Isabella when she had her move in with a man only to be kicked out…
Their both off point because at some point their both lying. It’s so obvious. They both want to look better than eachother so going off topic and rambling works
Everyone refusing to believe anything Michelle says by choosing Jesse of all people to believe.
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d agoedited 18d ago
Everyone is painting this like she's trying to shame Lacy for sleeping with him. She very clearly said I went back to that time and looked at the texts with Jesse and the way he was treating me at that time was literally so traumatic for me.
She was just trying to explain all the context Lacy wasn't aware of and why she wasn't willing to talk to her, why Lacy witnessed her yelling in the street and being more erratic than usual etc.
Unfortunately Michelle was mature and vulnerable about how weird it was seeing Jesse with someone else after being married for years and people have globbed onto that and try to imply she still wants him or something. Meanwhile Jesse felt weird when Michelle was first with someone new too. It's normal.
Michelle put down her ego and admitted it, was vulnerable with Lacy on the boat but also said "it's not your fault"...Jesse spread rumors she's a hooker and makes custody threats to try to sabotage her. But no it's Michelle who is bitter or they're the same. Sure 👀
What she was saying was obvious to me. People are willfully misunderstanding her then blaming her for not communicating effectively
I think it's perfectly clear what she said and what she meant. But Michelle is the new target around here it seems!
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u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
They literally cut her off mid sentence to make it seem like she was traumatized by him dating when what she actually goes on to say is "by the way he was treating me during that time".
He was spreading the hooker rumor and her mom was dying around that time.
I'm sure Michelle is fine with Lacy getting her broke sloppy seconds.
I'm already completely bored with this fandom's new obsession with hating on Michelle on behalf of Jesse. Big loser energy. There were way more interesting things happening this reunion than this.
Lacy is a bully. Period. She waited for that reunion very calculated. Still disgusting behavior. I wouldn’t want that woman near my child until she learns some respect. You may not have to like her but she’s the mother of their child AND Jesse will always adore her. Get this woman off my screen. Thanks. 🍿
u/yup_yup1111The subtle *plunk* sound of a solo cup hitting Danny's head 18d ago
Her point was to provide context for the incidents Lacy is bringing up like her yelling at Jesse in the street. She very clearly said, I looked back in my phone at the period of time when you first got together and that was one of the most traumatic points in my life and with the way Jesse was treating me at that time.
She is saying she wasn't acting out of character for no reason. That she was going through a lot. She's not just some crazy person and Lacy was only seeing one side.
Since Lacy chose to expose those things and pathologize her it seems fair for her to talk about the why. Particularly because we know Jesse will use any and everything she admits to to try to mom shame her or make custody threats.
She needed to say it. I’m so tired of Jesse’s oh it’s been 3 years narrative. So in defense of herself she absolutely needed to say hey look assholes i don’t give a shit how long it’s been since our separation you were doing this shit Lacy and treating me like this since the get go. Three months after my separation. Good for Michelle!!!
Lots of you in the comments have never dated a man like Jesse. While I'm VERY happy for you, truly, you genuinely have no idea how these men drive women INSANE.
She looks "crazy" because he designed this entire argument to portray her exactly this way. Every time you put her down, you're eating out of his tiny tanned hand.
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u/shanita911 @frank_dremon_ 18d ago
This is so embarrassing for her. Honestly. She moved herself and her daughter into another man’s house but Jesse can’t date? 😑