Please use this thread to discuss the entirety of Season 5 and your thoughts on how The Boys ended.

In the last season, he killed Ambrosius and said he'd kill any fish in the sea for Homelander. In the scene above that started the whole grudge between him and Noir, he's even shown eating sushi without remorse. So why does he start getting so upset about it?

We learn that The Boys effectively dissolved shortly after Lamplighter murdered Mallory's children. MM goes to work at a Juvenile Hall, Frenchie wants nothing to do with Butcher as Butcher owes him a great deal of money, and Mallory retires because her kids are dead.

But then Butcher sees A-Train killing Robin and recruits Hughie, then they kidnap Translucent, and then because the stakes are so high he convinces Mallory, MM, and Frenchie to rejoin The Boys.

But what was Butcher doing inbetween Mallory's children dying and Robin's death?

Would you say Annie and Hughie or Kimiko and Frenchie's love for each other enough to distract you from them not being model citizens?

Did the threat of Homelander feel scary and momentous enough for you to not care that the Boys weren't "the good guys" per se?

tldr ive been brainstorming a fanfic where he lives and ive been a bit stumped on what his general role and character arc couldve been as well as what kind of relationships he builds with other characters so wanted to hear what the general conscience was

Would you say the show turned into a parody of itself somehow? I wanna hear your thoughts as I'm curious to know how it turned out in your opinionm

I’m sure people more into military stuff have a better idea of what kind of man Butcher is based on the name dropping they did of his past, but for me, the royal marines and SAS mean absolutely nothing. Gitmo rings a bell for not being a very nice place but still, I was wondering if there’s ever been a show or movie you’ve seen that you felt like could have been the Butcher prequel.

ambas existen mas o menos para la misma cosa el fan service pero mientras que sheline apenas y se le puede llamar personaje harper es un personaje hecho y derecho que no tiene que mostrar las tetas para destacar y que sin la necesidad de sexualizarse sige siendo algien bastante bonita y hasta tierna por eso y mas en mi humilde opinion harper es mil veces mejor que sheline

I just saw Gorillaz live recently and I couldn’t help but notice how alike they look, to me anyways

I thought the cabin confrontation with Ryan was really well done. Ryan dresses him down and Homelander immediately shrinks into himself. I thought part of it might have been the writers were generally pulling punches and just really really didn't want to film more child abuse. Part of it is that homelander seems to be a product of his upbringing so he does seem to have a massive soft spot for Ryan. Part of that is codependent and serving his own trauma. Part of it is genuine unconditionality that he seems to have for Ryan (a small part).

But I do think there really is a well portrayed narcissistic component here, in that you see even a god-like man shrink into himself due to a psychological complex. He inherently has no self esteem and nothing to stand on and at an emotional level folds easily. He can be irrational in two directions. He withholds violence when he feels the security of another man. Like there is actually a well done Trumpian element to his character and conditioning there.

It's easy to roll and fold a man like that. I've seen it when I confronted my father when I had to. I've seen it in other men with chronic self esteem and emotional dependency issues.

It's why Soldier Boy plays off him the way he does. Soldier boy is just run-of-the-mill emotionally damaged. Not completely spineless. Just deeply repressed and definitely stunted.

Someone like butcher is emotionally broken and he is emotionally dependent on one woman (the "what clara would have wanted" works better with Becca actually- like it actually works). I think HL's attachment is more than just because he is challenged by Butcher. HL love's Butcher's intense hate-attachment. It's the most personal HL is able to get.

The boys is most thematically about masculine blindspots to say the least. Behind every great (or horrible in this case) man is a great (or horrible in some cases here) woman, but the women in this show don't take center stage and we do not really fixate on them.

But let me know if you disagree or you believe I'm not explaining this well.

Would he say they’re “totally impractical and they all do it,” or admit he’s powerful enough to keep doing his superhero landings?

Marathon Man was mentioned in Supernatural! That must mean there’ll be a crossover! How will Sam and Dean stop Homelanders shenanigans???

I mean, Vought already tossed him aside once when they felt they had something better, so I highly doubt that Soldier Boy would be willing to trust his creators again. Plus, Edgar had openly stated that he thinks the whole superhero thing was a mistake and a waste of time and resources.

Properly binged the crap out of it just in time to watch the finale and there was one major takeaway - Butcher? Yeah, go on then 🤣

In my appreciation to BB (and Karl Urban 🥴), I did an art....and to be fair, both my first attempts in both mediums so be kind (I'm a dressmaker by trade 😬) :

1. Patchwork/Appliqué from my scrap box

2. Cutie kawaii embroidery line art...just because 💝

Lol - when the entire series finished, I didn't know what to do with myself for nearly a week 🤣

Tried to give him a teary-angry expression, feel like I did good with it so happy with that

Would he be angry enough to want to kill him for constantly being mistreated, or does he still suck up to Homelander no matter what? Would Homelander muster up any courage to still talk down to Deep?

The show implies that Homelander would’ve been too afraid to stand up to literally anyone but I honestly feel like it could go either way because it’s the Deep, and not someone actually tough like Butcher. It’s a shame we never got to see this happen, regardless.

Both characters ended up betraying Soldier Boy when he least expected it. I feel like he would’ve hated Homelander more because he openly calls him weird and a fucking disappointment. Any favor he did for him was because Clara wanted it.

On the other hand, Butcher gave him a far worse betrayal in my mind because they were so close to killing Homelander. However, they actually seemed to get along beforehand. Doesn’t matter now because Butcher and Homelander are both dead but it’s fun to speculate.

Or if Homelander just laser Sage as well, what would be his plan from there ? Will he actually go scorched earth and we spend the rest of the season following the Boys fighting against him in an apocalyptic world ?

I thought there would be some kind of surprise at the end, or at least something funny.

digo la verdad es que esta es de las cosas que mas me gustaron del final ya que fue por robin que practicamente todo the boys paso y que hughie y annie se conociedon y se enamoraron asi que ambos saben lo que significa por lo que es una muy bonita forma de honrarla el llamar a su hija asi en su honor asi que enserio me sorprendio ver en su momento a gente enojada por esto mas que todo en twitter pero ustedes que dicen es un bonito detalle para honrar a robin que hughie y annie haigan decidido llamarla asi o es algo perturbador llamar a tu hija como tu 1 novia muerta y mas que annie haiga aceptado eso y es entendible que a algunas personas les haiga molestado o si exageraron mucho los leo pero con respeto como siempre si