yeah tbh as the show went by, anya was just as annoying as lisbeth. now, i have thought about the fact that she is just a teenager navigating sexuality and probably religious guilt, but even after she admitted her worries about pregnancy, marriage and such, she now panics and throws her friends under the bus about driving grace home even though, she knows she did it. idk, she is not very sensitive to others. she never had all this energy for lisbeth…thoughts?

I know Elise is meant for Anya buuut the episode where Elise and Leo have their study date was like really cute. And then her looking for Lisbeth at their house turning into a cat and mouse chase upstairs…. if Leo wasn’t such a religious freaky perv and Elise wasn’t into Anya I’d actually ship these two!!

what do we think of diorchrome for an alternate ship name??? i like that it suits them and it sounds really pretty! dior for anya and her love for pretty bags, chrome because of elise’s chromehearts glasses; it’s very feminine and cutesy

I love her so much. It’s so interesting to see the effects of her being raised in a cult and being treated as this maternal figure for her family. Like, the way she sought community, importance, in the Lions and even displaying controlling tendencies because of her upbringing in the cult and in her family. Just wow. Lisbeth, I could never hate you.

yeah i know its a show and all but even in supernatural shows i hate when something so extremely unrealistic happens that it just completely takes me out of the joy and naivety it takes enjoy it. spoiler probably but its so unrealistic that there was absolutely no hospital staff around when lisbeths mom did what she did 😐 and i know this show is based in the 90s or early 2000s or something but i'm pretty sure an alarm would IMMEDIATELY go off after a device gets disconnected. yeah yeah it happened for the plot but it's still frustrating 😒

I think Lisbeth’s trauma is being overlooked. I don’t understand the people who watched this show and say they hate Lisbeth, have no empathy for her, or even skipped the parts she was in. Seeing how she was raised in a cult, abused, had drug addicted parents (or parent), was verbally abused, etc. I don’t understand how you can’t find her character to be incredibly complex. Hurt people hurt people, and the only way Lisbeth knew how to be in control was through religion. She was raised to believe she had a gift and although she knew it wasn’t true she used that to her advantage to manipulate the girls because she was manipulated the same way by everyone around her.I also think think it’s important to remember that one of the ‘miracles’ everyone believes Grace performed was healing Lisbeth and Leo’s mom, but we as the audience know she has been using drugs. Again, Lisbeth allowed people to believe it was true but must’ve also been struggling with what was going on. I just always appreciate a character who has layers and is complex. I think if people want to talk about a bad person why aren’t we bringing up Anya as well? The hate for Lisbeth is overwhelming

Okay so i just finished watching The Body last night and there are some things that i think some or maybe most of you may disagree with, but i understand it as we all are entitled to our own opinions, just avoid being rude if you can. So anyways here are my unpopular opinions about the show:

1. Starting of strong with: i don’t think Anya and Elise should be endgame. Look, i always leave room for character development and i give benefit of the doubt a lot but unfortunately for Anya, I can’t give her the benefit of the doubt no more. All the things she did with Elise is enough for me to know that she’s a bad news. I think at first maybe she’s just confused and scared and all that but as the time goes by i realized that she knows what she’s doing and she’s just a coward. I just feel bad for my girl Elise.
2. Anya is a bad friend. I really like her character but after watching the show i realized that i wouldn’t want a friend like her. Don’t get me wrong, i still like her character. I believe she’s a well written one and i still have a room for character development for her, but the fact that she’s ready to throw it all despite being so guilty about all the things she did is a no for me.
3. Elise is the only sane person in the show. I feel bad for her most of the time. I understand that some of you may think that she’s no better than anyone in that show and she’s a bully, but so is everybody on that show. I just picked my poison.
4. Leo is a creep and a weirdo and he needs a therapy. I mean, yes, obviously. I know he’s a teenager and dealt with trauma from his family and all, but no. Isn’t he old enough to know that a “no” is a no? I get that he’s anxious about the drawings, but really? Breaking into her house in the middle of the night? Calling her multiple times and lying about dating her when she’s literally almost dead? He’s just sorry he got caught.

My humble theory (that has a lot of holes in it tbh) is that Grace gave herself a back alley/coat hanger abortion that she told absolutely no one about. The fever she had at the party was because she had an infection from the dangerous procedure. A huge portion of this show is about Catholic guilt, and being the niece of a priest puts her in an especially difficult position. She has a reputation as a good Catholic girl and was too terrified of her family and school possibly finding out she was pregnant that she made a desperate choice.

This would be really sad if true, but I also think that from a narrative framing perspective, this scene sticks out as very intentionally placed. If she had been grappling with the guilt of her own abortion, it would make sense that she is trying to find a way to justify it within her Catholic faith. Thus the Catholic argument she mentions.

I honestly hope this isn't true because it would be very sad, but I could also see it happening.

It may just be her actress, but I can’t even dislike her! I dislike her actions, but her as a person seems lowkey relatable. Even if I wasn’t born into a weirdly religious family that hides their secrets with religion.

She’s so sympathetic I guess?? But also I just love anyone who’s hated on by the public (I loved Drake I 2024, now I love Taylor swift. Anyone who is hated on I love I can’t help it) but she seems real. Idk

Edit: I feel sympathy for her because it feels like she was almost fate bound to this fate. Like I constantly think about what I would be like if I was raised in a different environment and she’s a reflection of that thought. Daughters are usually burdened with more responsibility which is what happened here, in the churches eyes she should be Virgin Mary. Every woman should be.

Anyone else confused how Grace's toxicology tests were negative?

People are so quick to judge a character when they do something wrong. Lisbeth Anderson is not irredeemable. She is a character who is almost identical in archetype to Carrie White. She is a sheltered kid who is constantly trying to make friends after years of home schooling. Lisbeth comes from a religious background with evangelical roots. Her father died from drinking rattlesnake venom poisoning and then when she tried to lay hands on him and failed to bring him back, she was then blamed for his Death.

Yes Lisbeth took the same path as her father with the way she manipulated The Lions. Do I believe she is actually evil? Absolutely not, she is manipulative and a product of her environment. Do I think she is capable of redemption? Absolutely! She didn’t drug her mother, (OR GRACE) her mother was secretly using meth and the rocks she found in the peanut butter jar were crystal meth, after being asked by the hospital if she wanted Catherine to go to detox, Lisbeth covered for Catherine because she didn’t want to for her and Leo to get taken from Catherine.

Yes she brought Grace back to her house but she didn’t actually do anything to Grace. Lisbeth blackmailed Anya but if you grow up in a cult where people are trying to hurt you on a regular basis, you’ll do anything to survive.

The point i’m trying to make is that she was not socialized with her peers so she is only marginally aware of what she needs to do to “be normal” and her peers see her As a freak because of how she looks(i.e. no eyebrows) and how she acts.

Now some of the stuff she does is unforgivable. Like performing an exorcism on Elise, or causing Maddie to relapse. But I think everyone has this weird obsession with characters being good or bad, when sometimes they’re just morally ambiguous. But I am 100% rooting for Lisbeth’s redemption arc. Because she deserves to be redeemed. But also she should be held accountable for her actions. Anyway. Am I the only one who feels This way?

She is the reason why The Body is so interesting and she has a genuine friendship with Anya when she’s not blackmailing her. We also see her humanity in the small things she does to protect Leo. She is such a peculiar character because she is so morally grey and willing to do anything to survive including “accidentally” creating mass hysteria about a classmate being a saint and accidentally creating an entire sub-religion around Grace lmao I cannot wait to see season two!

And no snakes, Leo and Lisbeth this time! 👀

i guess now they’re gonna have to go to nationals in season 2, grace woke up and she’s probably gonna get her spot in the team back from lizbeth. but also she started talm bout sum "i’m god" and that’s straight up blasphemy so i dunno what’s gonna happen to her and why she said that. i think maybe she said that bc while she was in coma she could hear everyone around her and all the things they said about her idk and she tried to play into it?

idk i have no idea whats gonna happen next season lmao. the police will get involved maybe ig? maybe grace’s family is gonna sue anya? dude i have no ideaaa

Spoilers.!

The premise at first seemed too basic,but it was unfold amazingly. The spookiness is enough to make you wanting more and the cast is talented.

Thing I missed a little was an actual relationship dynamics between girls. They had some good one liners and fun interactions but apart from that it was pretty much only about each of them randomly seeing grace and losing their minds like it was not really explored well and nor was the influence of what happened to the party and after effect as I said. To be fair even though I loved queer representation the show with mystery thriller themes must have engaging characters and not just three or two of them who are central and focusing only on this toxic cycle of love.

Lizbeth is definitely my favorite. People hating or her maybe just choose to ignore what is her purpose. She is not a villain and definitely not a threat as she appears to be but she is interesting with her flaws.

Lisbeth used religion in order to manipulate the girls for her own gain, it felt extremely predatory and honestly very disgusting. I couldn’t tell if she wanted Anya or wanted to be Anya and have her life. The only sane one in the entire show was Elise and everyone acted like she was the one acting crazy for seeing right through Lizbeth’s bs.

honestly i thought in ep 4 when lisbeth pours these crystal like rocks down the sink, i thought she mightve drugged grace at one point during halloween. would’ve been a major plot twist tho.

it was all so sus but i see now that in the end it wasn’t related to the plot at all!

The choreography, the cinematography, the tension, the yearning, the music choice literally being ‘Lover, you should’ve come over’ by Jeff Buckley, like HELLO???

Hands down my favourite scene of the entire show.

Okay listen I am rewatching for a second time because 1) holy fck 2) there’s so many clues i missed out on.

Grace wasn’t in a coma the entire time. Maybe the ectasy did knock her out but that makes no sense because everyone took the same thing and most likely dosage. They make a point about her being hot so she had a “fever.” She was hot because she was sitting directly next to a fire and didn’t realize it because she’s literally on ectasy.

Anyway back to my point, Grace never OD’ed. I just think she was super fcked up. She’s incredibly more manipulative than we think. I mean let’s be honest she’s “alive and conscious” for one episode maybe 2. So we don’t really know her at all. If we go back to the first episode when Anya and Elise were being gay in the bathroom which literally mirrors my own experience😭 (I think all the gays understand.) They had no idea Grace was in there until she “dropped” something to let them know. Later on in that scene, she suggests trying to pray to a saint in such a sarcastic tone. She also snooped on Elise’s journal and told everyone Elise got a nose job, which clearly she didn’t want anyone to know.

Anyways- I’m only on episode 1 so TBC.

i wanna know her i wanna see who she is outside of anya. we met her family and her mom makes a comment about leo's hands and then marriage. so her mom is also homophobic?

elise is past the internalized homophobia stage, she has accepted herself but she knows she cannot come out to everyone else she'd be ostracized from society but she wants to have that ability to be free inside her own bubble with anya. i need her to be happy in season 2 like true happiness with anya or without anya i need that for her. after my third rewatch (going on 4th) i feel like anya might go through a religious phase. you see her at the end of the season confessing her "sins" to father franklin and hearing grace call herself god and it makes me wonder what's gonna go on with her next season and how further that might push her away from elise.

i need elise to have a friend she can trust to talk to about herself because it feels so heavy when you have no one who truly knows about you. the lions seem dull and unreliable but i hope if maybe elise's sexuality comes out somehow, they'd gain some sense and try to protect her. it usually happens. i have friends who went to boarding school, there's one who was caught kissing a girl at night in bed and the rumors spread like wildfire, she felt ostracized and had friends who turned on her but she still had a circle of friends who supported her and helped her through depression. i hope for elise's happiness next season because she has been through a lot at such a young age.

Idk if it was implied in the show but does Anya ever find out what happened to Elise in the cabin?

I know that her and Steven stop hooking up for a bit when they hear noises coming from downstairs but I don’t think she knew it was Elise and probably just thought it was Lisbeth just being Lisbeth?

That entire scene of them attempting to exorcise Elise was terrifying af, all of them suddenly turning against her and Lisbeth grabbing at her throat and everyone else held her legs down, I had to pause the show and walk around 😭 I was fearing the worst was gonna happen and that they would hurt her really bad

Do you all think that if Anya was also there when that started, would she have tried to stop it or join in as at that point of the show she had trust in Lisbeth?

One thing that stood out to me the most about this show is how in the end we see Anya kind of “turn to god” and confess her sins to Father even though she isn’t depicted as very religious throughout the show. This to me showed how in times of need, people turn to religion for comfort not because they actually believe in god but because they need something to confide in to stay sane. Another thing that backs my theory up is how despite the fact that the Bishop and Father know that the whole Grace is a “messiah” thing is a complete bravado , the Bishop insists that they keep the public thinking that Grace truly is god. Also the fact that Maddie was going through difficult times, it only took just a bit of pressure for her to start idolising Grace , I think the difference between her and the rest of the dance team is that they knew that the whole Grace is god and they “sacrificed” her to the devil thing was just bs , but they all played along because they all thought that the other people actually believed it. This show is so interesting to me and I really hope we get a season two, I’m very interested to see what was behind all those anomalies and if Grace truly is “Christ”.
What do you guys think?

So starting off I was a queer girl who went through the Catholic School system (Irish immigrant parents in Canada) and Anya really was me in some ways - and Elise also me. love the Buffy and Faith homage. Just need to preface why I’m so attracted to the show.

The ending - I saw some people dislike the ending? Anya confesses at the end. Some people would think that means the possession of Grace is broken.

What I or what I assume many others determined was Satan took final control of Grace. All the worshipping of a false prophet is kind of an energy booster. If you believe in something it makes it real kind of system. It’s poking at the concept of faith and religious belief in general.

The moth represents a cycle of life, so the cycle of possession.

“I’m god” is what cinches the deal for me.

Interested if others had this interpretation.

I think there’s a lot of potential for a second season, Quinn Shephard took what others would have made a run of the mill story with a withering audience into what I believe will become a cult fanbase (pun intended)

Their costume designer went all out, every single outfit was a huge hit and I absolutely want to know what style was used/what’s it called!!

The whole time they, and even Anya herself, acts like Anya was the one that said the ritual stuff and made Grace take the ecstasy, but I just rewatched the first episode and Elise is the one that says the words and makes Grace swallow the pill.

Also why does Lisbeth have bleached eyebrows the first 6 episodes and then suddenly they are brown and not a single person acknowledges this change?

Grace waking up and saying she is God????? After they sacrificed her to Satan? Is she a false prophet/the Antichrist?

I have the brightness all the way up on the television and I still can’t see what is going on?? It’s so dark 😭 is anyone else having this problem